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What other lenses for my 60D
« on: April 12, 2011, 11:51:38 AM »
Helle guys,

Julien from paris.

i have a canon 60D since 4 months now, i love it.

So far, i have a sigma 8-16mm, canon 100mm macro L, and a 30mm F1.4 sigma.

I would like to have a lens that i can use most of the time, i quiet like street photography.

So, i wonder, should i take,

Sigma 17-50 OS HSM F2.8 ?
canon 17-55 F2.8 ?
Tamron 17-50 F2.8 VC or not VC ?

one day, i will go i think on full frame, so instead of those lenses, maybe i should think about the red ring?

What about to change the sigma 30mm for a sigma 50mm F1.4 ? if i take some thing in between 15-55mm ?

Thank you for your help.


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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 12:55:18 PM »
I am also considering that focul range to add to my kit as a walk around lens.

I will through in the Tokina 16-50mm F2.8.  Less common and without IS not that straight forward of a choice.  But if you have used an Tokina ATX Pro lens you can't ignore the build and feel of these lenses.

My problem with the Canon is its price.  You can add some decent filters (ND, Polarizer) to your kit and still be left with some change if you go for any of the 3rd party option.

So I am looking forward to people's suggestions, especially on the IS importance

For full frame, when is the question.  On  a crop body, I am certainly looking for hat 16/17mm wide end, and for street, zoom is important.  So if you are not upgrading within the foreseable future, stick with one of these choices, and sell them when the time comes. You do not want to feel short changed at the wide end while you want to take pictures NOW
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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 11:18:58 PM »
My 2 cents. (I'm not familiar with the 3rd party lens, so I'll leave that to others...)

With a 1.6x crop body, your choices would be slightly bit different from those of an FF body. Buying a 24-105mm f/4 would work if you are considering the switch to FF later on, but in the mean time you'll have a "missing link" between ur 8-16 and this one.

Of course, you also have the option buying the L lens at the time you switch to the FF system. Who knows, maybe you'll see a 24-105mm successor couple years down the road by the time you do it. 8)

Since you've already mentioned the 17-55 f/2.8, I'll just add two more from the EF-S lineup that would work as possible choices for walk-about lens: the 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 and 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6. The good thing is all these models have IS, so you don't have to worry about that.

Basically:

Affordable - 18-135mm> 15-85mm> 17-55mm
Reach - (you'll have to decide here; 18-135 has the longest range, while 15-85mm is the widest out of the 3)
Speed - 17-55mm >>>> 15-85mm/18-135mm

As for picture quality, you might have to ask people who actually owns the lens, but I think it's safe to assume that 18-135mm will be at a disadvantage when compared to the other 2.

Another note is that 18-135mm lacks USM among the 3. With USM, you'll have less noise and faster focusing time.

PS: If you are really considering to buy a lens that would work now and at the time you move to FF, the choice IMHO would be 17-40 f/4L. The UW lens could work as a standard zoom if push comes to shove (roughly  27- 64mm equivalent for the 60D). But you won't have the IS, so that should be taken into consideration.
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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 11:50:14 PM »
Helle guys,

Julien from paris.

i have a canon 60D since 4 months now, i love it.

So far, i have a sigma 8-16mm, canon 100mm macro L, and a 30mm F1.4 sigma.

I would like to have a lens that i can use most of the time, i quiet like street photography.

So, i wonder, should i take,

Sigma 17-50 OS HSM F2.8 ?
canon 17-55 F2.8 ?
Tamron 17-50 F2.8 VC or not VC ?

one day, i will go i think on full frame, so instead of those lenses, maybe i should think about the red ring?

What about to change the sigma 30mm for a sigma 50mm F1.4 ? if i take some thing in between 15-55mm ?

Thank you for your help.

I'm personally used the Canon and Tamron (non-vc) options.  The Tamron wins hands down in terms of price performance.  For the price, I found the Canon disappointing.  The only thing I thought it did better than the Tamron was be quieter focusing.  That said, my Tammy 28-75 2.8 is my favorite lens.  I have the Canon kit lens to cover 18-28 if I need it (where the little kit lens is at it's best), after that the Tammy takes over and is fantastic, before yielding to the 85 1.8. 

Oh and the Tamron has a bit worse CA than the Canon (in the interest of fairness), but it's easily cleaned up by LR3.

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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 01:13:58 AM »
i have a tamron 17-50mm VC for my 7D.  The lens frickin rocks!!

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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 02:11:17 AM »
Buying a 24-105mm f/4 would work if you are considering the switch to FF later on, but in the mean time you'll have a "missing link" between ur 8-16 and this one.
You may be "missing" a 20mm focal length, but I doubt that anyone will notice anything missing when it comes times to actually take photos. Any shot that should be framed at 20mm, can easily be framed at 16mm or 24mm without much difference.

Also, I own a copy of the much-maligned EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens, and while I haven't compared it against the other EF-S lenses you mentioned, it's not shy on performance when you're shooting outdoors during daytime, which is what that lens was designed to do. It's solid, easy to use, and reasonably free of distortion, especially when considering the price point and the incredible range of the lens.

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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 11:28:04 AM »
thank you for your answers guys.

i think, i will go for a 17_50, canon ? sigma? or tamron, don't know yet :-)

Cheers.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 12:12:57 PM »
I highly recommend the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS, if your budget allows.  If you haven't seen them, the Canon 17-55mm and the Tamron lenses have some detailed commentary HERE.
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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 12:22:54 PM »
thank you for your answers guys.

i think, i will go for a 17_50, canon ? sigma? or tamron, don't know yet :-)

Cheers.

Personally, I think that if you budget lets you, get the Canon 17-55mm f/2.8. I have the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 full frame cousin, the 28-75mm f/2.8, and it is a good lens, but it is slow to focus in low light, there is a Tamron version with VC (Tamron nomenclature for IS), but this lens is no where as sharp as the non-vc version let alone the Canon. The Sigma version has a ultrasonic motor like the Canon focus well in low light, and it has OS (Sigma nomenclature for IS), but it is not as sharp as the Canon in the corners at f/2.8, at f/4 it is as sharper than the Canon across the frame.

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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 05:40:22 PM »

How much can you spend on the lens ?
What are you are primarily shooting as a subject ?
What conditions are you normally shooting under ?
How willing are you to sacrifice IQ in order to save money ?
Is the 60D is your first SLR ?
How is it you don't have a standard zoom yet ?
 
Requesting recommendations without including that info isn't going to yield too many truly useful suggestions.

And why don't you have a telephoto zoom ? It's quite alright that you don't have one if you're otherwise happy with the lens selection you have, but with all the beautiful architecture in Paris you'll be missing a lot of great photos.

So, here's another vote for the Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS. Before I bought it I shot a few dozen frames with both the Canon 17-55 and the Tamron 17-50 non-VC in a camera store and the parking lot with my 40D. I thought the Canon handled better, was quieter, focused quicker and more accurately, and when I got home and downloaded the pics I felt the Canon had better bokeh, color and sharpness - it just made better photos and did it with less annoyance. These are all pretty much subjective qualities and you'll have to judge for yourself. I can say that the Tamron was close in every regard.

The store also had a VC version of the Tamron, but I didn't even mount it due to numerous online reports, by actual users and "experts", that it was not as good as the non-VC.

I've never used the Sigma 17-50, so no help there.

Fortunately, I found a very nice, used Canon 17-55 at a price that I can resell it for at anytime. Essentially, I'm using it for free and that is by far the best deal of all.

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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 04:50:38 AM »
My 24-70 is soooooooooooooooo good and with the mk ii coming out it will be a good lens but with a price. if its too expensive get a 17-40, because you have a cropped body it will make a good general purpose lens

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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 06:13:23 AM »
I just want to add that unless your upgrade to FF is imminent, the best strategy is probably to get a good APS-C lens and then sell it when you upgrade. You get much better quality for the price, and in some cases (e.g. the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS) there is no FF lens that will serve you as well on APS-C. When it comes to lens choice, I've used the Tamron (non VC) and it's optical quality is superb. The only downsides were that I found the AF noisy and I was often missing the VC/IS (for low light), so I eventually upgraded to an EF 17-55/2.8 USM IS, which is a bit heavier and much more expensive. The second-hand value for the EF 17-55/2.8 USM IS is very good, however, so if you get it yourself second-hand, you can probably sell it for a similar price when the time comes for FF, and not loose to much. If the Tamron had VC at the time, I probably wouldn't have upgraded to the EF-S, although USM is very nice.

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 02:21:01 PM »
I am on the fence of what kind of lens to get next for my 60d also.

My usual pictures involve abandoned buildings and I have a Canon 18-135 f3.5-5.6 and a Canon 50mm f1.8. The 18-135 has major issues with low light focusing and the 50mm is too zoomed for shooting buildings. I may get a full frame later on, but not this year.

I was thinking of 3 options

Sigma 30mm f1.4 HSM DC
Canon 28mm f1.8
Canon 17-55mm f2.8
The Tamron 17-50 was an option, but was leaning towards the Canon if going that route.

I was planning on buying my next lens this week and was leaning towards the sigma 30mm f1.4.

Wasn't sure how well it compares to the Canon 28mm f1.8, but low light is a priority with this purchase.

Thinking of this Sigma package for $400

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-30mm-Autofocus-Canon-Cameras/dp/B00805T0LW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1368460460&sr=8-7&keywords=canon+sigma+30mm+f1.4+hsm

Any thoughts?

Here are some of my pictures from the abandoned baker hotel to give an idea of what I will be shooting.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64504548@N04/sets/72157633055357175/

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 04:08:09 PM »
Considering the new Sigma 30mm f1.4 Art lens is coming soon, is there any info as to when that will be released?

I can hold off on it for a little while if needed or get another lens. Reading up before impulsively buying anything.

Edit: It is available already, just not many reviews. Sounds like the corners may be sharper, but its $100 more at $500. First amazon review had a focus issue that needed to be recalibrated.

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-30mm-f1-4-Lens-Canon/dp/B00BQXL8BU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368476018&sr=1-1&keywords=canon+sigma+30mm+f1.4+art

was there a forum post on this lens already?
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Re: What other lenses for my 60D
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 04:51:06 PM »
Considering the new Sigma 30mm f1.4 Art lens is coming soon, is there any info as to when that will be released?

I can hold off on it for a little while if needed or get another lens. Reading up before impulsively buying anything.

Edit: It is available already, just not many reviews. Sounds like the corners may be sharper, but its $100 more at $500. First amazon review had a focus issue that needed to be recalibrated.

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-30mm-f1-4-Lens-Canon/dp/B00BQXL8BU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368476018&sr=1-1&keywords=canon+sigma+30mm+f1.4+art

was there a forum post on this lens already?

Haven't seen all that much about the sigma 30, but the initial reviews indicate that it is closer to the previous sigma 30 in IQ rather than Sigma's 35mm f/1.4.  The link below shows a sample crop comparison between those two lenses.  There is also a drop down menu that allows you to compare the new sigma 30 with the old one or see the second link (harder to compare because the scaling is different).  If the Sigma 35 f/1.4 is wide enough for your purposed, that might be a better choice.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=838&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=829&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=838&Camera=736&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=405&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

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