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How come Canon never responds to anything?
« on: September 18, 2012, 09:21:40 AM »
How come Canon, and a lot of big companies never explain or answer any questions.  Why make a new sensor for the 6D when everyone was hoping for the same 5DIII sensor?   Why limit the video compression?  etc. etc..
Are there good reasons or are they just protecting other lines and/or money, as everyone keeps on guessing.

McDonalds answered this one:
why don't the hamburgers you get, look like the photos?
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How come Canon never responds to anything?
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 03:19:48 PM »
I'm guessing costs, sensors are generally the most expensive part of a camera and using the 5D3 sensor may have put it above the price point they were shooting for.  What limit on video compression do you speak of?  I was under the impression that it was the same as the 5DIII.

And what do you mean they don't "explain or answer questions?"  Who is supposed to be asking and who is supposed to be answering?
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »
I'm thankful that our cameras LOOK like the ones they advertise! :)

and even perform as advertised too.
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 08:16:07 PM »
I'd suspect that they will never tell you why they make the business decisions.  Does McDonalds tell us how they price their products?
Many of the Technical queries are answered by Chuck Westfall, but you have to ask.  He won't reveal any reasons for design decisions though, virtually no company does.

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 05:17:01 AM »
How come Canon, and a lot of big companies never explain or answer any questions.  Why make a new sensor for the 6D when everyone was hoping for the same 5DIII sensor?   Why limit the video compression?  etc. etc..
Are there good reasons or are they just protecting other lines and/or money, as everyone keeps on guessing.

McDonalds answered this one:
why don't the hamburgers you get, look like the photos?
Behind the scenes at a McDonald's photo shoot
Simply because it will drive them nuts even just in trying to. Have you seen all the gripes we gear geeks post here?  :D

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 12:27:27 PM »
Easy -- it would infuriate the 5d3 adopters. Plain and simple. I wasn't aware the d600 had the same sensor as the d4/d800/d3x. Even at 24Mp, it's well known that the d600 sensor is a newer (and better) sensor than the d3x.

Those of you who need all that the 5d2 or 5d3 offers will buy it. Besides, the 5d2 should ultimately still prove to be the better overall dslr than the 6d. I'm Nikon shooter now (having owned the 5d2) but miss much of Canon's system -- like the 35L, 100mm macro, etc. Canon will convince me to buy into their system again as well....it just may be years down the road. I know this is pointless -- but I wanted to state that their TELEPHOTO lens selection is simply unparalleled. This is why they OWN the sports photography market. As far as landscapes....they are still very good. It's a tough time for Canon right now, but i DO HOPE they pull out of this "slump", if you will.
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 01:26:53 PM »
well after watching this i want a cheeseburger...

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 02:19:53 PM »
Inofficial responses were coming from fake chuck but he seems to be into conspiracy theories these days...  ;D

I kid, I kid! Regarding the first part...

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 03:22:49 PM »
Personally I'm bummed that Canon pulled their sponsorship for Chuck's column at the Digital Journalist when the financial crisis hit.  It was really well put together, and no other big camera companies had that sort of direct interaction with their customers (that I'm aware of).

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 03:27:19 PM »
well after watching this i want a cheeseburger...

Even though I just had lunch and I've avoided McDonald's burgers for months,  I may have to go right now and buy one! ;-)
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 03:27:49 PM »
well after watching this i want a cheeseburger...

+1...or just fast food in general  ;)
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 04:00:18 PM »
Because of THEORY (both organizational and marketing).

Web 2.0 technologies - such as the CanonRumors forum, enable customer-to-customer communication

Big organizations do not want their customers telling them what to do, rather they would prefer if they could dictate to their customers. Marketing textbooks state categorically that 'Marketing Strategy' should be organizationally-led and that they (companies) should seek to influence customer behavior and that under no circumstances should companies lose control of that strategy. Big corporations may even use focus groups to discover what their clients think about their products (think CR site today), but then they go and use this information to tweak their product & marketing strategy (pricing, features etc), not to define it. However the Web, specifically Web 2.0 allows for user-generated content and interactivity, which creates a major headache for large organizations like Canon Inc.

If large corporations did what their customers want from the get go, there would never have been Guinness Light, or New Coke vs Classic Coke, and GM would never have launched a car in Latin America called 'Don't Go' (the Chevy Nova).

It would be great if big corporations listened more to their customers, but then why have a dog (marketing dept) and bark yourself?

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 04:49:51 PM »
Easy -- it would infuriate the 5d3 adopters. Plain and simple. I wasn't aware the d600 had the same sensor as the d4/d800/d3x. Even at 24Mp, it's well known that the d600 sensor is a newer (and better) sensor than the d3x.

Those of you who need all that the 5d2 or 5d3 offers will buy it. Besides, the 5d2 should ultimately still prove to be the better overall dslr than the 6d. I'm Nikon shooter now (having owned the 5d2) but miss much of Canon's system -- like the 35L, 100mm macro, etc. Canon will convince me to buy into their system again as well....it just may be years down the road. I know this is pointless -- but I wanted to state that their TELEPHOTO lens selection is simply unparalleled. This is why they OWN the sports photography market. As far as landscapes....they are still very good. It's a tough time for Canon right now, but i DO HOPE they pull out of this "slump", if you will.

Except for 70-200 f/4, both Canon and Nikon have very similar telephoto lenses.   Nikon even has 200-400 that Canon does not have, and I have seen it many times in the fields.  Why would you say Canon own the sport photography market?

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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 10:06:47 PM »
Both Canon & Nikon know exactly what they're doing.  They haven't gotten where they are today by having a lack of business sense.  They will both continue to counter each other in order to win over the enthusiastic masses.   ;)
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2012, 11:41:51 PM »
Easy -- it would infuriate the 5d3 adopters. Plain and simple. I wasn't aware the d600 had the same sensor as the d4/d800/d3x. Even at 24Mp, it's well known that the d600 sensor is a newer (and better) sensor than the d3x.

Those of you who need all that the 5d2 or 5d3 offers will buy it. Besides, the 5d2 should ultimately still prove to be the better overall dslr than the 6d. I'm Nikon shooter now (having owned the 5d2) but miss much of Canon's system -- like the 35L, 100mm macro, etc. Canon will convince me to buy into their system again as well....it just may be years down the road. I know this is pointless -- but I wanted to state that their TELEPHOTO lens selection is simply unparalleled. This is why they OWN the sports photography market. As far as landscapes....they are still very good. It's a tough time for Canon right now, but i DO HOPE they pull out of this "slump", if you will.

Except for 70-200 f/4, both Canon and Nikon have very similar telephoto lenses.   Nikon even has 200-400 that Canon does not have, and I have seen it many times in the fields.  Why would you say Canon own the sport photography market?

Because Canon's 300 f/2.8L, 400 f/2.8L, etc. are way, way better than Nikon lenses.  Overall, Canon has better sports lenses, and then of course there is the 1DX which is superior to any Nikon camera in existance.
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Re: How come Canon never responds to anything?
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