5th January 2010 – Canon today adds to its acclaimed L-series with the launch of the new EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM telephoto zoom lens. The lens launches as the successor to the immensely popular EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM, offering improved performance in every area.
True to the L-series’ heritage, the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM delivers optical excellence in the most challenging situations. As well as a revamp of the internal optical system, the lens has also been structurally re-developed as a direct result of user feedback, making it as robust and reliable as it is optically advanced.
“Reuters’ photographers have used the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM for a number of years and it allows photographers a great level of flexibility,” said Reuters Production Editor Kevin Coombs. “The focal length, fast aperture and Image Stabilizer all contribute to it being a workhorse lens and you’ll find it in many professional photographers’ camera bags. I’m very much looking forward to seeing the improvements offered by the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM.”
Premium quality, premium performance
The EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM features a re-designed optical system, consisting of 23 elements in 19 groups to deliver truly impressive results. A high-performance fluorite element is used at the heart of the lens path, coupled with no fewer than five ultra-low dispersion (UD) elements, drastically reducing chromatic aberration throughout the zoom range to produce high contrast images with edge-to-edge definition.
A high-speed Auto Focus (AF) system perfectly matches the abilities of the recently-launched EOS-1D Mark IV and EOS 7D Digital SLR (DSLR) cameras. The new model also features a ring-type USM AF motor, which combines with a new high-speed CPU and an optimised AF algorithm to make auto focusing both faster and quieter.
A reduced minimum focusing distance of 1.2 metres (3.9 ft) and improved 0.21x magnification will allow photographers to get closer to subjects without needing to swap lenses – greatly benefitting time-pressured news and events photographers who require flexibility. An updated Image Stabilizer mechanism also offers a shutter speed advantage equivalent to four-stops, reducing the effect of image blur resulting from camera shake in busy shooting environments.
Enhanced design, exceptional ease of use
As well as an update to the internal construction, the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM features an enhanced external appearance to improve lens operation. The thickness of protruding exterior parts and switches has been significantly reduced, guarding against accidental switching and creating an improved overall look. The rubber focusing grip has also been redesigned and widened; with finely-patterned grooves making it easier to manually focus.
Being an L-series lens, the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM is fully weatherproof, making it ideal for use in all weather conditions. The mount, focus mode switch and focusing ring all feature a completely dust and drip-proof structure, preventing dust or water from getting inside the camera and lens when used with accompanying weatherproof EOS bodies. The lens has been designed to stand up to the daily wear and tear of professional usage, making it a highly durable, reliable lens for use day-to-day by professional photographers.
High quality L-series accessories
The EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM is supplied with several accessories, including the new ET-87 Lens Hood and the Ring-Type Tripod Collar B (W). A brand new Lens Case LZ1326 is also included as standard, offering quick and easy access when users need to switch lenses in time-pressured situations.
Compatibility with a range of optional Canon accessories also allows users to pair the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM with the Lens Extender EF 1.4x II, Lens Extender EF 2x II, Extension Tube EF 12 II, Extension Tube EF 25 II, and 77mm filters.
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NICE!
Looks like it’s finally time for me to pick up a 70-200 2.8 IS… II!
Any mention of price? One UK rumour on Twitter was for a much higher MSRP:
http://twitter.com/howardlucas/status/7405385074
price??? to much fo a gay like me?
2800 GBP / 3200 EUR
Cry baby cry :F
Now we wait for the Jan 9th .
They did that quitely.
70-200 I S LII nice.
70mm end on the MTF chart looks disappointing. Even with few more UD and FL gems doesn’t seem to lift the MTF much. Even though 4 stops of IS sounds promising but optically…..Shame on you Canon !!
!@#@$%^$&^%$^#$%$#%^$^%#
The tipster did good on the January 5th announcement. Will there be the followup on January 9th or will it be February 9th?
With an advisory pricetag of 2969 euro here in Holland… whoa! That’s over 4000 USD :)
But I guess it’ll convert 1 on 1, so it will probably sell for like 2500 usd.. Damn Euro prices.
The new lens is scheduled to be delivered to U.S. dealers in April, price to be determined.
My guess is that the inflated “list” price will be $3199 and it will initially retail in the $2300-$2500 range.
Expect more EF lens revisions coupled with price increases in the near future…
Can anybody verify the price on this thing? I heard it’s $2800, but will this also lower the price of the normal 70-200mm 2.8 IS USM because people will switch over?
More info:
The new lens is due out in the UK at the end of February priced £2,799.99 and expected to be showcased at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) which takes place in Las Vegas, United States this week.
£2,799.99 is $4479.12 at today’s conversion rate. However, a better way to estimate the US price is to look at the price in Euros:
£2,799.99 = €3,110.75
So the US price will be somewhere between $3100 and $4400…
I’m glad but account is not…
Two things:
1. This is awesome. I can’t wait to get one.
2. CR guy man you are MISSING these big news items. Come on, you need to be on the ball a bit more. We should’ve known about this weeks ago :)
i just bought my 70-200 2.8 IS (the original now) about a week ago. :/ the question is. should i stick with it. or trade and get the II. bleh
The price will same as nikon new 70-200 vr II
Is that for real?
WOW!
I think I’ll pass.
all the lenses are back on the canon site…. wtf did they take all of them off if all they were announcing was the new 70-200? I saw the 400/5.6 missing and i actually though Canon might be ready to release a 500/5.6 L IS… oh well, I guess we’ll just keep updating the same old lenses… they’ve got 5 70-200 lenses listed now… ok once they discontinue the old 2.8 IS then 4 but damn, how about turning some of that manufacturing capacity towards something different? ughh
holly crap… i just looked at the prices being posted for this lens…. thats astronomical for a 70-200/2.8…. that thing better take pictures without a camera, fly, give me a massage (happy ending optional) and make me a sandwich afterwards… ugh, im all for progress but my paycheck doesn’t seem to be progressing at the same rate as prices (not even close)
one shop in the netherlands has got it listed at €2959,-
Too much for my wallet to afford!
http://www.cameranu.nl/artikel/76204/Canon_EF_70-200_2.8_L_USM_IS_Type_II.html
Mine is 5 days old so I know how you feel. Not due to ship til April so that is one consideration. The other is that if the price is going to be as high as speculated, yours will hold good value. I need mine so I’m going to keep it ans see what I can get for it in April if I decide to move to the mark ii.
These prices if in the area that’s being thrown out here are bordering on absurd.
I could see $300 more than current version at most as a realistic price point.
Those are actual prices listed in the UK…
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-canon-ef-70-200mm-f2-8-l-is-ii-usm-lens/p1518838
According to the German Canon website, it will be sold for 2399€. On their press release page, there is a * next to the price, but no explanation what that means, most likely “including taxes”.
Nikon’s is nearly $2400!
hmmm. your very right. i think, the only reason i’ll return or sale is if there is a drastic improvement in image quality. i know there are instances where the original lenses produce better IQ than the updated versions.
technical talk and charts aside, the one thing that does appeal to me from the mrkII is the minimal focusing distance of 1.2 metres. I shoot events and portraits. i could really use the extra foot.
Could you please provide a link to the MTF chart? I’ve been looking, but didn’t find it.
mine is almost 5 years old and I still feel like you guys . :P
lol, its bigger and havier than the current model!
Second!
a german website states the price will be around 2400€ thats a price increase of like 700€
jeez
+1 to what CanonMonster said. It will eventually level out to be close to the Nikon equivalent. Maybe debut at $2999.99 but drop ~$2500 within a year or with a rebate.
Given the fact, that in Germany prices for end-consumers *must* be given including taxes (it’s a law), I’d guess the asterisk should more likely mean something like “suggested retail price”.
I told you people so…
Now for the believers of a 60D comming out, you can wait and wait for a long time.
70-200mm IS USM II will have an MSRP of € 2969,-
(I did not set this pricepoint :))
MSRP is 2969 euro’s.
Could well be the instore/retail price….
No way. That’s over US $4400 — well over double the price of the original 70-200 f/2.8 IS.
Over US $4000? No way. When has Canon ever doubled the price of a lens when releasing a new version of it?
The Price without tax would be 2017€ = 2912,95 US$ (Google)
I WANT THE – EF 24-70 mm 1:2.8 – (II, IS whatever…) !!!
See, that I can almost believe. It’s not that much more than the original 70-200 f/2.8 IS. But these people saying it’s going to cost more than US $4000 are smoking something that makes their brains stop working. I can believe that some stores are offering it for that kind of price today, because they want to profit off the people who absolutely HAVE TO ORDER IT TODAY AND BE THE FIRST ON THEIR BLOCK TO GET IT and are willing to pay a ridiculous premium to do so. But Canon’s official MSRP, and the actual street prices once this lens becomes widely available, won’t be much more, if at all, than the lens it replaces.
Sure, but that’s because this store wants to profit off people who are willing to pay insane prices to be the first on their block to get this new lens. There’s no way Canon is going to be asking US $4000+ for a 70-200 f/2.8 lens.
Not knowing anything about the Hybrid IS system, I still wonder why it wasn’t included on this lens…?
I don’t think Canon has announced a price yet for the new lens. $2800 as MSRP sounds a bit high, but possible. Street price will be well below MSRP once it becomes widely available in any case.
I expect the original 70-200mm f/2.8 IS to be discontinued. That’s what Canon always does when introducing a new generation. In fact, I wouldn’t be too surprised if they discontinue the non-IS 70-200 lenses also. There is a market for them (you save $500 or so, after all), but most bricks-and-mortar camera stores that I know of don’t carry the non-IS versions, and I can imagine Canon wanting to simplify the product line and reduce potential confusion by having only two, rather than four, 70-200 lenses in production.
Not much bigger (a couple of mm longer and thicker), but actually lighter by about 100g (3.5 oz). Still a big, heavy lens, though, just like the one it replaces.
According to who? Canon’s press release doesn’t mention a price. If you’re going off what some online store is offering it for, then you’re not thinking it through — that would be a pre-order price set by the store itself, trying to make extra profits off people who want to be first in line.
The 70-200 F/2.8 non IS is already listed as discontinued on Canon’s site
Look here:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-70-200mm-f-2.8-L-IS-II-USM-Lens-Review.aspx
Nope, more along the lines of 2700-2900 USD – the prices in USD are less than the prices in Euros charged in the EU. CAnon 7D, Amazon.fr – 1400 EUR (2000 USD), Amazon.com 1700 USD, and I still have a hard time believing that it will be over 2000, let alone 3000/4000 USD.
Surely, taking into account the current one, there is a point of diminishing returns, at around 1900 USD. Any more and I’d rather go for the current one or the f4 IS, which is also great.
No, it is heavier (just) by 20g
However the MSRP is true, that said expect a retail price of around €2500,-. you’ll see.
According to what I see as a listprice on my computer screen.
I guess that depends what source you believe. The press release says the new model is 1490g. Canon’s own Camera Museum on their web site says the old version is 1590g. Looking around a little more, I see other sites saying the old version is lighter than that. Never having weighed mine on a postal scale, I have no idea which number is correct.
The value of my 70-200 2.8 IS just went up. :))
OMFG!
one more stop on IS + 8″ closer in AF and bit faster? …hmm I’d keep the older one, unless the newer one IS INDEED a lot more sharper…we’ll see
welcome to the age of $3000 f2.8 zoom lenses.
Great news for me as I was planning on buying the 70-200 in the next couple of months. Imagine how gutted I’d have been if I got the old version just before they announced the update..
Hybrid is for the Mk III version! ;)
$2500 street or so isn’t really an much of an increase after accounting for inflation by the govt.
Worth it for the no scratch hood? the same material as the 100 IS. It’s a little known fact that Canon has upgraded the materials used for hoods in this model and going forward.
ROFL $4400. Well, used version “I” will be excellent buy for “normal” people.
Also, I think anything more than $2200 for this lens is absurd. The MTF looks only slightly better. Surely it’s still no 70-200 f/4 IS.
Also, I know I am about to get attacked. That is all.
Doing a little quick math, that would put the US price at around $3150. I just compared a couple of prices between that site and B&H. Different countries have different pricing structures, it’s not just tied to current exchange rates. I’m inclined to think that the street price will end up somewhere between $3150 and Canonmaster’s suggestion of matching NIkon’s price point. Either way, I’ll probably just end up buying a Mk 1. I’ve been jonesing for one of these for a while and I just can’t spend 3k on one lens right now (or in the foreseeable future).
When it comes to the pricing, there’s one thing I think everyone needs to remember. We (in the US at least) just dumped another trillion dollars into our economy in the last year, so the relative value of our dollar has dropped (so has a lot of other currencies as well). Since Canon actually manufactures their products instead of just assembling pre-made parts, their costs haven’t dropped.
Anyways, I’m waiting for news of a 24-70 Mk2!
Lets see, news industry in turmoil, global recession affecting rates on all types of photography shoots, and Canon wants to double the cost of a replacement lens? Canon needs to take a look at the state of affairs.
I pity the foos at Canon if the street price is over $2000. MrT will have to sell one of his chains!
No one said it would cost $4k in the US, but it could cost the equivalent of that elsewhere. Look at the 7D price in the UK… it’s ridiculous.
The current lens sells for $1700. $700 increase is a 41% increase. That’s a lot.
I couldn’t agree more. Lens prices are quickly reaching into the territory of the very elite.
thats what im saying. i am feeling the pressure seeing as i just bought the mkI days ago. but dang. in some cases down to the 70mm the mkI outdoes the mkII. (according to the chart).
the price seems right to me, look at what the mark 1 cost when it came out
“Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM *SRP Inc VAT:£ 2,239.99”
^ best comment ever
What the F— omg
no way
Im goin To Pay $2700 max
(Canon is Make Clear The Possitions of Pro To Non pro Shutters )if you can justified the Money Is ok
(and is a joke when my 1D mark IV arrive i have to Buy The lens )
As per the canon website, “Lens Hood ET-87 (not included)”!!! C’mon! That’s just cheap play!
Hahahah.. That must be a typo, but could you imagine if it was true?
third
OMG This Is A Joke From Canon Lense Hood Not Included
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=ModelTechSpecsTabAct&fcategoryid=804&modelid=19092
Specifications
Lens Cap, Lens Hood & Pouch
Lens Hood ET-87 (not included)
Ok so for a 1Dmkiv + 70-200-f2-8l-is-ii-usm
you can get for around the same price..
Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR Camera Body
Canon EF 85mm f1.2 L II USM
Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8 L IS USM
Canon EF 24-70mm f2.8 L USM
Canon EF 50mm f1.2 L USM
however i’m sure people will spend that money without evening thinking about it!
Oh dear, i now have a MkI!. Well, i’m not upgrading anytime soon. I first like to see some real test results between the two. And sofar, i’m very happy with mine.
The closer 1.2m focus distance is interesting, but i hope Canon did not do what Nikon did.
The ET-87 is included.
Isn’t there some extra taxes for UK and Euro market on camera gear? I’ve often seen prices there way higher than in US or Canada.
Still, i bet v2 of this lens is gonna cost quite a few hun’ more than the previous one for sure, at least initially.
the MTF looks markedly better at the wide end, not much dif at the long end.
Will need to see real world comparison tests, not predictions as Canon’s MTFs are.
I like my current IS but it’s noticeably lower contrast than even the old non-IS I used to have. Would be nice to have the closer focus as long as distortion’s not up.
Recent 100mm macro L is also looking more contrasty wide open than the older 100mm USM macro – and that’d be good, as the old one was kinda washed out wide open, despite being a wicked sharp lens. My old 100mm macro appears to have some fine flaws in the internal lens coatings, as did 2 other copies I had. I hope the coating quality is better these days with that new process they have.
Love how Reuters and AP are totally dominating the industry fronted by Canon…slowly killing every other independent press-agency..along with the creativity and the opportunities for the thousands of inspiring photographers!
Even killing Nikon along with it!
Do they still think photographers earn these sorts of wages to pay for the likes of all this!? Or am I missing out on hundreds of vincent, zacuto, philip bloom wages…because it’s killing me thinking their at the top …the ELITE of the ELITE
Like joining the Royal Marines and seeing the SAS as a bunch of fat bastards doing the most exciting work and getting paid more…but their shit soldiers .
+1!!!
I bought a 70-200-f2.8L IS about 2 weeks ago, and I still have two weeks to return it. I finally settling on a decision to return it, since it seems to be a bad copy. This press release doesn’t change my mind…. At 4.0 it is less sharp than my 24-105L (of course, you can’t compare 2.8 on the 24-105L) throughout the range, and gets pretty fuzzy at the higher lengths. It also hunts forever to grab focus on my 5DM2 (not a surprise) and on my 7d (kind of a surprise).
At first I thought it was a sharp lens at 200 mm compared to my 100-400mm, but then I realized it was less sharp than the 100-400mm when I used contrast-based focusing, so a little micro-adjustment on the 100-400mm (actually, +8, so more than a little) and the 100-400 has it beat handily on both the FF and the APS-C. I tried adjusting microfocus on the 70-200, but it was most clear at +0, so that wasn’t it.
So I guess I’m sending mine back regardless of the new release. The question is going to be whether I re-order one of the first generation ones before the rebates end, or wait for the price on the new version to come back to earth about a year from now. Unless the dollar keeps falling, in which case I don’t see the new lens getting any cheaper.
Admin nice job on the article but you need to add more images to make it pretty. LOL. J/k. Thanks for the read.
I have used the Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM occasionally and the current price is worth it. Hard to improve this lens. The IS II has some significant improvements, but in practice the moments will be still very rare where the new improvements will be really usefull. For that reason it will be hard to justify any price above the USD 2000,-.
More like extra five inches. It would be nice, I agree, but I don’t see it as enough reason to sell my old version to get the new one.
A 24-70 f/2.8L with IS would be very, very cool. I’d be much more excited about that than I am about the new 70-200.
I’d pay that amount for a black one though ;)
I agree, that must be a mistake. Every L-series lens I’ve ever bought has come with a lens hood.
So what – as long at it delivers better IQ…
April 2010 will likely be august 2010 (unless you pre-pay.)
Canon confirmed prices for Germany: 2399 Euro, available in March – I’ve placed my order 45 minutes after the announcement, now, I know the price :-o
Well MTF does suggest finer bokeh and improved wide open performance in the middle and very slightly in the corners, especially on the long end. Still. This isn’t a barn burner based on the MTF. Very very good. Not quite excellent. In the real world I think the lens will not disappoint. But in the real world photographers don’t make much money and amateurs make none.
I’m not sure.
Yes.
We could get more announcements, ACCORDING to:
“An anonymous tipster said we can expect some Canon announcements on January 5, 2010 & January 9, 2010. Saturday would be a strange announcement day, but CES is just around the corner.”
Let’s hope for good stuff and 1st (of the year) 5D Mark II FIRMWARE Update too :)
AND let’s hope it doesn’t come with the noise pattern issue that firmware 1.2.4 seems to have… (a pro already reported to Canon with RAW still proofs, and we tweeted it today. NO response from Canon yet…)
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Is anyone interested in a kidney?
Truly hope the price will be no more then € 2500,- and will eventually drop to € 2000,-. At that point, I will buy it.
Second
Anything above $2500: I will pass
Nikon’s 70-200 looks much better to me !
Bye Bye to Canon
We get shafted over here in euro land, the 1d mk4 is £4500 ($7200)
New Nikon 70-200: £2000 at Warehouse Express
New Canon 70-200: £2800 at Warehouse Express
These prices are getting ridiculous. What is the margin on this thing? £2500? They must be making a bigger % than crack dealers.
Put another way, an extra stop over the f4 version now costs £2000.
It won’t be any more than the Nikon, hopefully less. Marketing 101, if your competition is selling theirs for $2400, don’t make yours $3400.
They can raise prices and still be no more than $2400.
just send it in to a canon authorised repairer, it will be free and come back perfect, i do this with all my new lenses and they are all nice and sharp.
Foei!!!
According to the official Dutch Canon website, the recommended retail price is € 2969,- (available from the end of februari). That’s US$ 4245,- with current Eur/USD rate (1 eur= 1.43 usd. I expect that the US price will between USD 2500-3000. Still too high.
“De EF 70-200mm f/2.8L is beschikbaar vanaf eind februari 2010 en heeft als adviesprijs € 2969,-.”
Yes, Canon is getting greedy and misses the chance to make the big leap against the rapid improving competitors.
And the other ridiculous thing is this: compare the MTFs of the new Canon and the new Nikon. The Nikon is far, far superior! Canon is really screwing us over on this. Seriously annoyed.
everyone could place a pre-order from warehouse express then not buy it then hold out cold turkey and cross our fingers they drop the price cuz they have ordered too many. not sure if it would actually work. hmmmm
“completing an order for the product will place you on a waiting list, which is strictly fulfilled on a first-come first-serve basis. No payment will be taken for this item until we have contacted you when stock arrives.”
Seriously annoyed, so I’m posting yet again to vent steam. In other areas of consumer technology the constant march of scientific innovation means that prices gradually come down for the same performance, or the price stays the same and a new model is released with improved performance.
Why does this not apply to Canon lenses? In fact we observe the opposite, and it would seem Moore’s law applies to the price, not the performance: it doubles roughly every 18 months. What is even more shocking is that with the popularity of digital photography the big manufacturers are shipping cameras and lenses in volumes they could not even dream about 10 years ago. Volumes are up 4 or 5 times in that period. This should be another driver of lower prices.
What we have here is a lack of competition. Canon and Nikon now so dominate the top end of the photo market that they can take the mickey with their pricing. And so they do. It’s disgusting, greedy behavior.
As consumers we really need Panasonic, Pentax, Sony and Olympus to stay in the race.
I am 100% with you. Only with lenses, prices keep increasing. can you say the same for plasma tvs.? I remember the first plasma from pioneer sold for $12000. Now you can get one for $600. and dont even talk about computers..!!!
and you are right, the keyword is competition.
Per the usa.canon website:
“Pricing and Availability
The Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens is supplied with a detachable tripod collar, a reversible bayonet mount lens hood and a lens pouch. The new lens is scheduled to be delivered to U.S. dealers in April, price to be determined.”
http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20100105_ef70-20028lis.html
The keyword is “customers” who keep buying. Stop buying any gear for a year and see how the prices drop
For a high profile, bestselling lens, a cash cow, I feel Canon’s serious lack of enthusiasm in the new lens. They don’t feel the need to at least change the tripod collar to match those in newer telephotos like the 200mm f2.0 (whose collar is built to last). There is no weight reduction, no all black color option. I know all this is cosmetics, but it feels like Canon shrugging its shoulder: “You want a new 70-200mm? ..There.”
Let’s hope it’s nice and sharp at f2.8. And it’d be a nice welcome too if they implement the new silent IS like in their new 100mm Macro. I like the lower MFD.
Yeah, just sell your Canon stuff and switch to Sony… Oh wait, the Sony 70-200 is actually more expensive… Well, why wouldn’t you buy a Sigma 70-200, it is way cheaper? Or maybe buy used or the old model? Oh, I see, you want the latest tech and best quality… Pay the price then.
While they might seem greedy to you (and probably they are), this is just how capitalism and free market works, and I think the world just run out of free communist haven spots (you might still find one in North Korea somewhere though).
Nikon users are annoyed that Canon managed to get their new 70-200 to stay above 170mm focal length at minimum focusing distance, while they are stuck with their 70-128mm Nikkor.
Now you’re stuck reading the MTF chart.
Pick your poison.
There are cheaper options for the 70-200, nobody forces you to buy the latest model. The best TV you can buy these days is actually more expensive than $12000…
Compared to the non-IS and IS Mk1 version, this is certainly an improvement.
But it doesn’t match up to the f/4 IS. :)
communism drives prices higher for things food, its a pipe dream and a failing system by nature. you cant have your cake and eat it too.
I sold mine, a few months back. It was 5th in a string of very good, but not excellent ones. I doubt if I’d go for another one unless I first get the 1D MK IV. Even then, primes are less expensive and do a amazing job.
You only know the price the reseller quoted you. That doesn’t mean your retailer isn’t charging you *way* over the MSRP.
In Canada:
“The new lens is scheduled to be delivered to Canadian dealers in April, price to be determined.”
My MkI is 3 years old, I’m in no hurry to upgrade.
They’ll have to charge you an extra $500 for a black one. Not only is it a custom deal, but you’ll be depriving Canon of all the free advertising they get from people walking around with those very recognizable white telephoto lenses… :)
hopefully they keep the price of the mark I…
But if you are a commissar, you can have your cake and eat someone else’s.
I currently run both the current Canon 2.8 IS and new Nikon 2.8 VRII 70-200s. Next to the new Nikon the older Canon feels slow and clunky – although I’m running the Nikon on a D3s which is does not really make for an even comparison of focusing when the Canon is on a 5D2! The Nikon was pretty expensive when it came out – over $AU 3000 in Australia – but was obviously a big improvement on the older model so I didn’t mind paying a bit more. The new VRII on the Nikon is really good and to me delivers real benefits – so the new Canon might also benefit from new IR and therefore worth paying a little more for. However I’ve always been really happy with the image quality out of the current model – and I use it more often than not in manual on a tripod shooting video so the AF and VR don’t really worry me so much! So I don’t think I’ll upgrade the Canon just yet – as I’m not planning to get a 1D IV anytime soon so not sure any faster focusing will show up on the 5D2.
you have it backwards
the dollar is weaker than the euro
it comes to around 2000
meeting adjured.
Moore’s law may apply to semi-conductors but optics haven’t changed that much.
Perhaps liquid lenses may trigger something interesting…
actualy The Price is
(36 reviews) Sony
SAL-70200G Zoom AF 70-200mm f/2.8 APO G(D) SSM Autofocus Lens
For Alpha & Minolta Maxxum Series Telephoto
B&H # SO7020028 Mfr # SAL70200G In Stock Price: $1,799.99 FREE SHIPPING (USA) QUANTITY :
This item is in your cart
the site is
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463920-REG/Sony_SAL70200G_SAL_70200G_Zoom_AF_70_200mm.html
exactly, the dollar is weaker than the euro so it takes MORE dollars to equal a certain amount of euros, NOT 2000.
Totally off topic. I just went to check out the Nikon Rumors site and half of the ads up (probably Google ads) were for Canon products! Just made me laugh and I wanted to share.
Marketing 201:
When your customer has already paid USD5,000+ in your system, it makes it harder for them to pick a competitor’s system. Ergo, you can charge more.
Depending on the price of the new one, it might trigger a wave of “get teh old one at its cheaper price now!”.
+1
Hey man, just do it! Switch to Sony or whatever you like. Saying that the competition needs to survive doesn’t make it so. Vote with your wallet, stop buying Canon.
People expect to keep buying the good stuff from Nikon/Canon and prices to come down because of the competition, but only a few stick with the other brands, almost nobody switches. It means these companies are doing the right thing – by offering the best the best bang for the buck, still. Or it means the majority of their customers are just gullible fools.
It’s simple economics, it’s been like this since the dark ages. The ability to whine on the internetz about it doesn’t change how things work.
According to the currency-converter widget on my iMac, 3,200 Euros = $4,595.20 US.
Prediction.how much will this cost?i believe the 70-200mm I will cost much less..when this comes out?
Can we get a black version please?
My understanding of the Hybrid IS system is that it’s mostly useful at fairly close subject distances. Since this sort of lens isn’t typically used that way, it would seem to not be a serious omission, and probably helps keep the eventual retail price from being even more extreme.
Great idea actually. The 100-400 lens needs +8 on my 7d but needs no adjustment on the 5DM2. The 7d and 5DM2 test didn’t need any adjustment with the 70-200 (although it was less sharp than the 100-400, surprisingly) and didn’t need adjustment with the 24-105. I wonder if the problem is with the 7d or the 100-400? Both are under a year old, so I think both have an appointment with Canon in their near future. Better to get them factory-calibrated before the warranty runs out. Thanks for the heads-up!
That’s fairly typical for that site, actually.
I talked with a pro wildlife photographer the other day who said that he found the white lenses scare birds (specifically, hawks and eagles). I live in a climate that regularly hits and stays above 100 degrees Fahrenheit for weeks at a time in the summer, so I’m OK with the white lenses, but I can definitely see the point of why people prefer black.
Either the Europeans have been taking it in the shorts on prices, or those numbers are way off. But if they prove correct, then stock for my five-year-old 70-200 f/2.8 IS just went up. Maybe QC has slipped in recent years because my copy has been an excellent performer. So much so that just yesterday I posted in the lens rumor thread that I saw no need to update this lens (shows what I know). I bought mine when Canon was running one of their triple rebate programs. I think I paid just over $1,400 US (after rebates). I really can’t see spending twice that or more for the mark II. Frankly, I’m so happy with my mark I that I wouldn’t even consider upgrading unless the mark II drops below $2K AND offers significantly improved sharpness.
My f/2.8 IS focuses very fast (although I have never used Nikon’s, so I can’t compare).
I want a red one :-)
Seriously, All i want is for it to be sharp @ 2.8 from 70-200, and fast accurate AF with no AF issues.
If you want black go nikon.
You won’t even get this one.
You stand in the football game for 4 hours in the sun
with black lens it get hot.
You can’t even touch it.
That’s all? :'(
That’s what I was thinking. I must go and explain to my wife how I WAS RIGHT! IN YOUR FACE, WIFE!!!
I was using my “Mark I” on Sunday and did notice quite a bit of CA. However, I’m used to that and I know the shots will always look great when printed. I won’t be upgrading, but I’ll be watching the second-hand value of my “Mark I” with interest.
Except that this is the kind of lens that many customers will choose when buying into the “system” for the first time. A customer that has spent 5k on the system probably owns this type of lens already.
The more esoteric lenses can carry the larger premium, not these professional “mass-market” lenses.
Maybe it depends on whether or not they are including the weight of the hood and tripod mount.
The colors from 70-200 f4 I S is bettervthan 70-200 2.8 I S.
Because of the florite glass.
Anyone buying these as the “first time” lens has enough money to make this whole discussion irrelevant :0
If you have a pea brain maybe.
I wish Nikon have an white 70-200. :)
Not true. News agencies might kit out dozens of their PJs with a camera body (or two) and a few lenses each. This type of zoom lens would be part of their standard kit and, because of the quantities, the price is very important.
There are also many amateurs, such as myself, who did not have a significant investment in the EOS system before buying this lens (the “Mark I”). The lens represented my first significant investment in the system and I was very conscious of the price when I bought it. It cost me about €1,350 new; had it been much more than that, I would not have bought it.
great :-D
I don’t mind a white supertele, it’s going to be big and conspicuous no matter what. Out in the field it makes sense for it to be white, and stay cool.
The 70-200 does not have to be conspicuous. It’s obnoxious at a wedding and other indoor events. I hate using it while I’m traveling and getting gawked at by people because I have a big white lens.
The best compromise I have so far is the 135 f/2 – it’s small, fast, and sharp wide open. But sometimes I really wish I had a zoom.
$500 is worth the discreteness for me.
They do.
http://regex.info/blog/2006-11-06/275
If you’re at a football game, you’re more likely to use longer lenses than 70-200mm.
The 70-200 does not need to be white.
why the hell does nikon make white lenses
well..i thought those were exclusively sold in japan only?
it does need to be white. to absorb and reflect more light..
Well the closer focussing would save me a few headaches and the af switch not flipping over to manual every time I pick it up would be nice, but as I’m trying to raise enough money for a 1d4 I just can’t afford this lens. Canon seems to think we are all rich at the moment, when in fact the money earned from photography seems to be in permanent decline.
Well, I am not talking about the latest model, but price of the commodity in this sector does not come down even the volume has increased to a significant amount
dont change the subject!!
hybrid IS is for macro.
http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20090722_hybrid_is.html
“…whereas shift-based shaking, which occurs when a camera moves parallel to the imaging scene, is more pronounced in macro photography and other close-range shooting.”
Good thing I’m not yet in the market for a 70-200mm. :) By the time I am, prices will have gone down to saner levels. :)
Will be watching the price on this new lens.. though version 1 may start popping up on discount sites
lol that price is insane imo. With the newer bodies having usable 6400-12800 iso…. having 2.8 is less relevant than it was a few years ago.
Not saying it is pointless (dof, really dark scenes) but in business terms… I don’t know anone who is gonna make an extra $2000 becuase they own this version over the mk1.
I think canon might have a rude awakening when their sales on this thing are weak.
Thanks for the info. I’ve always heard that the f/4 was supposed to be sharper, but I’ve been happy with the sharpness of my f/2.8. And I like having the larger aperture as an option. The prices that are being thrown around for the mark II are way too high to even tempt me at the moment. It’ll be interesting to read reviews of the mark II when it comes out.
i think the 70-200 is not an exclusive sport field lens… like a supertele….
i think this lens should be black and from the 200 f/2 and above should be white.
the 80-200 was black
I dont think they will be weak…
But the f/4 is the new f/2.8
Because people asked for them, apparently.
I don’t know about Japan exclusivity, but the fact they were made means you can get them.
I agree! It sounds crasy!
The II version of 70-200 from Nikon is Cad$2250 (I’m from Canada)
U can buy a FF body, let’s say D700 for Cad$2700
& the quality of this kit would be still better than 5D MarkII with this new lens from Canon, PLUS it’s cheaper!
I owe the 70-200 f/2.8, but if there’s something better coming – I’d love to have it, seems to me it’s time to sell all of the Canon toys and move towards Nikon.
Want to see the reviews of the new lens first. How good it is, comparing to Nikon’s one.
But I’m afraid it’s the right time to think about changes.
Very sad, but with this economy it just makes more sense…
haha…real mature. if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything at all.
im going to contradict myself by saying Ex-Canonuser is a VERY pretentious sn.
i think it will be above US$3,000. introductory price in japan is Yen Y283,500 that is about US$3,045.
you can even reserve one right now if youre living in japan.
http://kakaku.com/item/K0000079167/
Wow! You guys don’t even want to wait to see how much the REAL U.S. Price is?!
Look at it this way…
According to the Canon Japan site:
It’s ￥300,000 (yen)
Which is $3,254.33 USD (if you directly convert it) Too much?
HOWEVER, the current 70-200 2.8L IS is priced: ￥280,000 which is $3,037USD. But if you look at the US site, it’s $1999.
So, using the same ratio, I’d hazard to guess the new version will be:
$2250 USD
They price things differently around the world dude, you can’t just use a currency converter to do this:
According to the Canon Japan site:
It’s ￥300,000 (yen)
Which is $3,254.33 USD (if you directly convert it) Too much?
HOWEVER, the current 70-200 2.8L IS is priced: ￥280,000 which is $3,037USD. But if you look at the US site, it’s $1999.
So, using the same ratio, I’d hazard to guess the new version will be:
$2250 USD
Certainly no more than $2500.
I strongly believe 70-200mm IS will be discountinued.
So it will only left 70-200mm IS II and the one without IS.
This is inline with the F4 version. Also the price is likely to be USD2199-2399.
I really rather get the option with the 5d mkii and the 4 lenses. However, what I rather much more is a 3D with those 4 lenses.
I think $2199-2250. I think you be correct right Mr. Pants.
pwnage
Just when I thought I couldn’t afford to switch to Nikon, Canon comes along with underperforming (5dMkII AF issues) overpriced (1DMkIV, new 70-200f/2.8) and annoying (dropping the remote switch on the 580EX II) gear oh, and rumors of higher priced fixes? (3D) Give me a break. Is that you Chuck? Are you showing me the door?
Well, if Mr. Pants is right – it sounds pretty good. Mainly though it would sound reasonable. I don’t think that Canon will rise the price up to US$3000 for the new 70-200… To my mind, it’s just too much.
By the way – does anyone know the prices for the lenses in HonkKong? Want to go there in spring. Is it better to buy the prime lenses in U.S. or overseas?
I currently own a 40d and a 17-55mm( and a EX430II) and I am struggling between cannon and Nikon for a upgrade. For two weeks, I have been checking all the possible solutions. My budget is rather flexible and I am looking for two camera bodies and they can be both Nikon and Canon. My application is simple: I sell cell phones on ebay and I have a three year old pretty girl.
The new Nikon 70-200mm VR II is nice at 2400 dolor and I can buy a used D3 for 3200 from ebay. But the D3 doesn’t have vedio and the Nikon 24-70 is a sharp lens without VR. I like the canon 5D ii’s 21mp sensor and vedio but heat canon’s 24-70mm zoom and the 70-200mm f2.8 IS—inferior to Nikon’s 70-200mm VR II. Now finally the canon 70-200mm IS II is out, but you guys tell me it will cost four grands?
$1949 @ B&H. the inflation is really killer, my insurance company hates me for it too, since I keep re-insuring the same equipment for higher values and its completely legit.
Keep your shirts on boys, the MSRP on an item is rarely (read: never) the actual price.
IF you are basing your fantasy lens hunt on icelandic prices then yes, you will be disappointed, the retail price is much higher in some places in europe. This is because of IMPORT TARIFFS the local government charges, not extra money canon is making.
If you look at last model, you will see the new MK II isn’t solely released for optical improvement, but to be a cleaner, better update to an already awesome lens… the stabilizer is not only going to be better in F-stops, but also smoother because of double the axis of adjustment.
Not to forget the magnesium lens barrel so its probably going to last twice as long.
oh and if you want value go out and find a BLACK 80-200 2.8, I just picked one up last week for $500 in banged up shape with clean/clear glass.
Too bad all the Canon marketing folks are Japanese or they would be reading dozens of threads like this and would realize how many sales they have lost to people that will not walk around with a WHITE CANON BILLBOARD.
I can use a very expensive 24-70L or 135L all day long and only photographers notice… whip out a white (nearly equally expensive) 70-200 (non IS!) and every thug in two villages knows who you are and where you are spending the night.
CANON… I will be the first to buy a BLACK 70-200 2.8IS… even with a premium for black paint.
I just saw a listed price for the 70-200 II at Camera Canada.
I sure hope they are way off
http://www.cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/product.asp?pid=2751B002
They are brand new and factory sealed from Canon.
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Totally awesome lens
For “Reuters’ photographers” must be good news to have a new good lens in hand. Maybe they have available jobs.