Canon EOS 7D Specs?

If 3.9fps is true, this is a deal breaker for me.. Why would we go down??

Seems awefully close to a 5D. It loses the xxD reputation of speed. I don’t buy this one.

Wow…I’m gonna be really disappointed if these really are the specs. Please, Canon, don’t mess this one up…

canon s suicide

But what if it can take EF-S lenses as well? These specs would seem about right?

Guys. this isn’t a D700 competitor. Its an A850 competitor, with lots of low-light but not much resolution, if its cheap there could be a market for it. I do agree that 3.9 is really crappy. I would think at least 5 or 6 to stay competitive with XXD models (which this seems to be a supplement to, rather than a replacement for)

I don’t buy these specs. For one, its too close to the 5D. If they are true, i have no need for a 3.9fps camera. Although I feel thats the part of the specs which could be incorrect. If Canon is using the less crowded 12.1mp FF sensor with the new DIGIC IV cpu, it should be able to fire faster than 3.9fps. AND include video.

If these specs are accurate… ouch Canon, you blew it.

ummm… if the price point is going to be close to the 5D MKII (as previous posts suggest) then there is no way this is going to be 3.9fps…. I can see maybe a 12mpx or 16mpx camera with video and at least 5-8fps (plus maybe a big VF or nicer AF)…. that would make sense since the 5DMKII would be left for the studio/landscape people and this would be more of an action camera but with the above specs it would have to be under 2k to make any sense at all (and its still wouldn’t because it would be essential a 5D classic which you can get used at much less, as I did).

I’d rather have my 50D as a second body for the 5D2 than this 7D if those are the specs.

If it has a good AF System I would buy one

I am sure we will be spotting loads of 7D at Berlin this evening

After releasing 5D II for a whole year and selling out the rest of 5D stocks, it’s quite possible that Canon releases a lower-MP and lower-priced full-frame to compete with D700 and upcoming Sony A850. Remember original 5D was released about a year after Canon discontinued 11MP 1Ds. A few questions and speculations tho:
1. 12.8MP is understandable as most people don’t need more than that most of the time; more importantly, it will not eat up any potential market of 5D II and 1Ds III. But Canon’s own lower-level 50D/60D will be higher-res at 15MP for a few more years which could be odd as Canon always has strict market segmentation: 5D/7D->FF HIGH-RES; xxD->APS HIGH-SPEED.
I’m sure if 7D has 15-18MP, it’ll sell like crazy.
2. Still old AF system?? After 4 years of original 5D? Is Canon really that lazy and arrogant?
3. No HD video? That sounds almost impossible as that 1080p HD video function of 5D II helped Canon sell the camera to out-of-stock even after a full year of its release.
4. Finally, the PRICE. Anything above $2500 is definitely not possible, not only because of the strong competition of A850 and such, but also it’s too close to 5D II price. $2K or under will make it super popular that many xxD users will actually add it as a ‘FF’ 2ndary body while pros will definitely get it as backup body.

All in all, I believe the 2 most significant features that determine the ‘hotness’ of 7D are AF SYSTEM and HD VIDEO.

WHAT A SUPER DISAPOINTING

CANON IN 10 YEARS IS GOIN TO BE IN BIG TROBLE

WHIT NIKON ( DSLR PRO SEGMENT ) SONY ( DSLR PROSUMER AND HD SEGMENT ) AND PANASONIC ( POINT AND SHOOT SEGMENT )

MARK MY WORDS ANY NEW TECNOLOGY ONLY GOOF ( CANT MACH PANASONIC RIGHT NOW )

guys, this isnt a cr3 or a cr2, so i wouldnt worry bout it.
these specs are way to close to the original 5d for canon to do this. yes canon is (what looks like) stopping the mp war. but i dont think canon will go back to the original specs with a few minor tweeks.

given how the 7D specs have taken a dramatic turn for the worse, it seems that the real specs are starting to come out so we all have time to ease into our disappointment. if canon really designed this to compete with the Sony, they really made the wrong call on this. how many of us are threatening to ditch for the A900? not many. how many of us are threatening to ditch for the 300/300s?

Nikoners complained when they saw the 300->300s upgrade specs, but in my opinion they were fairly decent mid-life upgrades. I had said we’d be lucky if we got the same things moving from 50D to 60D. looks like we won’t get even that … well, I’ll hold out until September but looks like I’m going to be a happy 50D owner

oh please, the D90 almost killed interest in DSLR video with one word that D90 video is most known for…JELLO. Some reviews even called it the JelloCam.

Luminous Landscape said this in their review, “Unfortunately, the video quality produced by the Nikon D90 isn’t terribly exciting.”

Also, the 5D2 was announced two weeks after the D90, which means Canon and Nikon were developing video ability in DSLR’s at the same time, Nikon just announced it slightly before Canon. So it’s pretty hard to say Nikon started the fire for demanding video on DSLR’s. The 5D2 did that because the quality is stunning. If the 5D2 has not come out, video on DSLR’s be left with Nikon’s reputation of not exciting and plagued with jello effect problems.

Google decided it was chinese:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Farticle.pchome.net%2Fcontent-948640.html&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

According to this source (which could be referencing stuff posted on here, and thus be a nice circular proof), it’s a dumbed down 5d II. But, I’m not sure how. It has the same size sensor (we’ve been told the size sensor makes the cost to produce, not the pixels), it uses the same AF, has a better screen, and the same VF. Still there could be more taken out.

As far is price is concerned, we already know that the Best Buy leak got the cameras correct but the prices wrong. I think they’d be marketing this to $1800-$2000.

I’m really not sure why they would come out with something like this, when you can just have the 5d. What I think is more likely is something like this:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/07/60d-specs-cr1-2/
Which also fits better with the size of the camera we’re seeing, and with the seemingly EF-S lens on there. I think the best outcome for you FF fans is an APS-H size sensor.

Depending on the level of new features (fps, quality of AF and weather sealing), this type of 7D could go for $1400-$2000. Which could be a slight step up in the expected 60D performance and make it competitive against the D300s.

That are the 5D Specs. Canon had an 5D version with OLED but it was just for the showroom and a few years ago.

So this rumor is BS!

The price would have to be about $1800 to sell. The Best Buy price was the same as the 5D. However, the G11 price at BB was $100 higher than the Canon MSRP, so the model may be real but the price was BB’s guess.

I have absolutely no interest in the camera as described, but I know a couple Canon ex-film shooters who might be very tempted.

HAL went haywire again…

I don’t believe that rumor – the specs don’t make sense.

But I have a question, is there going to be a 60D and a 7D or is the 7D replacing the xxD?

Rofl, this is best specs i even dreamed of
Its old 5D in new body, seems like imba.

Why bother about speed and extra 3 megapixlolz?
FF for this price is insanely good stuff, realy.

What would have more demand? A camera with this spec, or a Canon camera that matches the D300 on speed (8fps) and image quality in low light conditions? Hmmm.. let me think. It’s a no-brainer – Canon get your act together!

Sounds like facelifted 5D ;)

nice. can’t wait. they should have the option to customize every button to direct wireless print. I hope they put this at least into the custom features accessible via C1-C3.

I’m going to be silly and say I quite like the look of it. I’d love to see a cheaper FF upgrade path from the xxxD series. I like good low light and AF performance. I don’t know why people get boners for FPS. If Canon can pull that off, perhaps chuck in a couple of direct print buttons, then lots of people will be very pleased*.

* By lots, I mean at least me.

camera is fine, specs or photo is wrong tho.
Specs says theres no b/i flash, but we clearly see button on image… mistycaly

Hear, hear.

The boner comment aside, I agree completely.

OK I BELIVE YOU HAVE A PRICE

AND APLAUSE FOR THE BADIEST

LEARN AND MAKE GROW UP STATEMENT PLEASE

Yeah maybe the 7D will sell in a Rebel body! Yeah!!

I would agree, but why bother having a new & fantastic AF system if you can only shoot at 3.9 fps? It would be a complete waste.

I sincerely hope that this is BS or it’s back to the waiting game for another year.

If these specs are true, and like others I am a little hesitant to believe it. The price of around $2000 makes sense. The four year old 5d m1 is selling for around $1500 – $2000 new right now; and that is for the body only.

spot on!

Although it would have 3.9 fps, but if the AF-unit will be something as the 1D, I will sure buy it.

Better a slow mirror and a fast AF-unit than a fast mirror and a slow AF-unit.

I hope Canon improves the AF-units on it’s midrange dslr’s, or otherwise I’m thinking of swithing to Nikon (D700).

the button on the pic is a new instant print button. the flash sign stands for higher speed for direct prints. seems obvious

i would buy a ff rebel for sure

If these specs are correct then the price will make or break this camera. Everyone is saying how horrible such a camera would be, but what if it was the same price as the 50D? It’s hard to judge this camera without knowing the price.

add: i think FF > any other utter spec that you complaining for…

The website suggested there will no built-in flash, which is conflict to the picture posted earlier. I’d rather believe what the picture showed.

chinese site . . .

how about making the sensors better? same pixel density, but way better phototransistors?

I think (sadly) it will be a crop camera, since the 7D photo seems not to be a fake and indeed the lens is a EF-S (likely 18-55 IS). In such case, I (and may people as I) will wait with my current 400D. I’m planning to upgrade to FF, but the only interesting options for an amateur it there will be either (a) cheap FF or (b) 5D mkIII (yes, III) with a new AF system justifying the current price.

I will not switch into Nikon D700 because I’m getting really interested in the TS-E 17mm, and I may pick also another interesting canons (like 35mm 1.4). I have cash, but I’m not willing to pay for a digital body (renew each 18 months) several times the old film prices; I don’t need for my hobby a expensive, heavy and professional cameras, but I have fresh money for more lenses and (only if well-priced for the feature set) cameras.

I’m still happy with crop 1.6x… but Canon needs to improve the FF if they want me to buy it or invest in FF lenses.

Even if it costs $1800?? For that price I want a very high quality body.

i hope Canon-god heard you on the pricing!

BTW, I hope the first truly affordable Canon FF (I think D700 is affordable taking into account the capabilities) will be downgraded to only 12 or 15 MP. I’ll really love a great high ISO at pixel level.

Why would anyone need a slow FF camera with 12 mp?

The EOS-1D Mark III also has 2 digic IIIs inside.

http://209.85.129.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://product.pchome.net/digital_dc_canon_eos_7d/param_158006.html&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhgVQ–SAyngeR_bmxxtGniyJPtseg

+1

Very believable

Actually, it does say HD video capable. Does not mention whether it’s 30 or 24 fps.

It will be an affordable FF.

My comments assume the Chinese ‘leak’ is correct.

It makes perfect sense as a way to slowly phase out the EF-S range instead of stopping production in one go. People with EF-S lenses will be able to upgrade to FF without the expense of having to buy new lenses.

These specs aren’t just “dumb” they aren’t even realistic. A full frame sensor with less resolution than the 50D? Not a chance. Not a chance! If it would be something like 15 or 16 megapixels full frame, that would be more realistic. Something well below the 5DII but not less than the 50D on a sensor that is MUCH bigger than the 50D’s. The FPS seems possible, but most likely bogus. Seriously, this is just a garbage list and has no bearing on even a potential sub-5DII FF camera.

Waste of time! “Won’t sell well?” How about “completely idiotic specs”

would you buy it for $1000?

Interesting observation about the visibility of red dot on the attached lens.

I really hope it’s a crop camera…

This camera sounds perfect for me. I don’t need 20+ megapixels and I want good high ISO as well as modern stuff like live view and lens focus adjustment.

I don’t understand what is “the viewfinder function”

paper weight?

Maybe I’ll buy it for 1000$ but not more…

This would generate a lot of tech support calls and a lot of negative comments on Amazon.com. “My old Rebel was great, but this new camera sucks, all my pictures have black corners, so I’m sending it back for a refund.” Sure, this would be evidence of extreme cluelessness, but the vast majority of consumers are clueless. Canon had good reasons for making EF-S lenses unable to mount on FF and APS-H bodies; it would be silly to change now.

The right way to upgrade to FF is to start by buying FF-compatible lenses, which work fine on Rebels and are often better than any EF-S lens anyway. The high resolution of a 12-15 MP APS-C sensor goes really well with a great lens like the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM.

That’s what Canon does, gives you one thing at the expense of another instead of giving us the whole enchilada. Just like when the 40d came out with 10 and then the rebel with 12. FF with 12mpix (need at least 15 or you may as well just name it 5dmk1-1/2)? I would hope they wouldn’t be so lame as to pump this puppy out.

ummm

1D, 1D2, 1D3.
:)

Can we get DAVID PR’s post removed and his ip banned? Talk about an early Christmas present!

This simply can’t be true. The lower megapixels alone is not enough to lower the cost. I don’t think there is as big a correlation between megapixels and cost as there is sensor size and cost. This is basically just a sensor gimped 5DII that would cost about the same. Who is going to buy it when there are no distinct benefits/differences? What else are they going to strip away to lower the cost?

If this comes out I’ll completely lose faith in Canon.

+1

haha I’m done with nikon and now invested in far too much Canon glass to consider ditching my 30D for a camera with an extra zero and the D on the wrong side. I’m really hoping for some good weathersealing so I can take this to maine in the springtime and morocco in the summer

Just because we can technically live without ten fingers, that doesn’t mean I would want to step backwards and have a couple removed.

I knew this answer will come :)
Well since I’m just in to buying one, I’d prefer 7D over 5D, because of the huge advancements in the field of CMOS sensor since.
And I’m also for video, since I shoot a lot of videos and miss all the abilities of a modern SLR.

Also I can not understand people being disappointed… They act like they were promised something, by someone who is very close to them.
No, this is a company in far Japan, which creates products what the customers like or not. They have the right to close all the doors tomorrow or produce a 10K$ cam with 1MP and no viewfinder and still we would not have the right to be disappointed….

Not even close… guarantee it will not be a full frame. very exciting camera though!

These specs are silly. Not going to happen.

You just voiced everything I feel as well . . . *high five*

15 point, all cross-type AF???? That’d be *SO* much better than the mk2 that I have a hard time believing it. Of course, having just bought a mk2, I don’t want to believe it.

Yo…Well said…Awesome…

I agree with you. I don’t think that those specs as above are real but I would like them to be.

Making two very different full-frame cameras like high-res 5D and “low-res” 7D is a really great way to a) stand out in the market, b) give people choice, c) give people different price-points to chose from. 10-12MP is more than enough to make pretty big prints, it allows using really low apertures without diffraction creeping in, I’m sure it would also have a lower noise characteristics.

But with nikon, lenses are expensive and forget the F/4 zooms

I agree. It’s not a sports camera and people keep ragging on the AF as if it could do 8 fps or something.

I agree that these specs are not true.

I believe the 7D will be the 60D renamed, and that it will designed to compete against the Nikon D300s, as some earlier rumors suggested. It will be APS-C and be a fast camera with a high fps rate. If we’re lucky it has something really new like Digic V or an OLED screen.

Keep in mind that the specs for the kit on that Best Buy rumor listed it has having the 28-135 lens…the same as the 50D kit that you can get at Best Buy.

This could be possible. $1500-1800US full frame. great high iso and movie mode. Think about the niche this fills. Wedding photographer, and indie film makers. It won’t be waterproof, there is no need for that for this target audience. Simple great image quality kit for working professionals. It’s not a great studio camera, but they already have that in the works.

think about the target markets
1ds studio professionals
1d sports and journalists that have the money.
5d luxury consumers, and high Image Quality for budget professionals
7d consumer full frame and even better for budget professionals.
xxd sports, journalism and wildlife on a budget

There is a niche to fill here. It won’t have all the bells and knobs of a nikon, but it will have better IQ and be much cheaper.

…and you can’t understand why someone who was hoping for a 5D equivalent of the 1D (lower mp, higher frame rate) would be disappointed? What is hard to understand? We don’t have the right to be disappointed? What the hell are you talking about?

I couldn’t care less what this camera is as I’m waiting for the next 1D, but I still can’t make sense out of what you are saying.

The 5D is not such a very old camera. The latest sensors will likely only slightly outperform it. I have never seen a full stop improvement (e.g. a 1600 shot with as low noise as a 800) among two canon cameras with similar pixel count, regardless the release date.

However, what I have seen is a 15MM APS-C canon sensor somewhat and sadly walking into the P&S ISO performance direction.

What’s the point of having two cameras at (allegedly) the same price? Wouldn’t the 7D HAVE to be cheaper to justify its existence?

Great post – sounds reasonable.

All these rumours just say the same thing: you’re better off with a 5Dmk2.

Most of us want FF for one thing – high ISO performance. which APS-C is lacking now.

Canon: ‘I can give you cheap FF, I’ll just take away video, MP, cripple AF, deduct fps, voila! Or you can just buy the 5Dmk2. :D ‘

The ‘7D’ is probably better off as a high end cropper.

On the bright side: Canon marketing willing to back off on MP for the sake of better pictures ala G11. That is a promising reversal.

He’s not alone. While I’m sure there’s some market for another slow FF body, it seems pretty lame to leave a gaping hole for those who want a fast FF in a 5D size package that is not $4500.

4 fps is much better. I’d only buy it if it had 4fps not 3.9!

I’ll miss too many shots within that 0.1fps. :( :( :(

David…..I thought you only liked FF! I’m so shocked!

yeah canon go on.. will be a great cam ;)

hopefull much more fokusing point system!

and less megapixels!

then i’ll buy this one (:

CANON <3

Finally someone has the sense to say the emperor is naked.

So many people whine on about the 5D2 AF, but it’s perfectly fine unless you’re doing sports.

Precisely LOL

Think it will have any of these features>>

http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d700/index.htm

Yeah, people are declaring the FALL OF CANON over a CR1 list.

LOL

DAVID PR LOOK LEFT. SEE THAT LITTLE BUTTON CALLED “CAPS LOCK” PRESS IT WILL YOU.

thanks…that’s better now isn’t it. take your pill and call back in the morning.

Agreed, even if you need to shoot sports, most of the time even David’s 2.5fps is enough.

Just learn a bit of timing and gather up some skill. LOL

The 5D’s ISO performance isn’t that bad. Better than the 40D I’d say (yes, I’ve owned both…AND I also own a 5D2).

Optimists say 4fps.

Pessimists say 3.9fps (or 2.5fps).

LOL

FF on the 1D, yes. I will not buy another APS-H. I have no problem with APS-C & EF-S for the price. I have an old 1D, it’s 8 fps which is nice, but only 4 MP, so I never use it. The 50D gives me 6 fps, 15 MP, and a 1.6 on the tele is noticable, and best of all it’s cheap. Was hoping a 7D fast FF would replace it but it looks doubtful from the specs floating around.

How many fps do you think the 5DII has now?

Well I’ll tell you. It has 3.9fps too. So how it is “deducting fps” I don’t know.

Also if it were using the same sensor tech as the 5DII but at 12MP or so, it would have BETTER high ISO performance than the awesome 5DII. So your complaint there is not warranted.

Cripple AF. LOL that statement is so stupid I won’t even bother refuting it.

I’m getting a little sick of stupid amateurs complaining about the 5DII et. al AF system. Seriously it isn’t as terrible as they make it out to be (yeah, it could be better, but listening to some people, you’d think it is better to manual focus). I seriously doubt the whiners OOF photos are caused by a “crippled” AF system, that’s for sure.

+1 dude

I don’t think Canon will allow the D300s to have that market niche all to itself. The D300 was a great seller for Nikon, proved that a good market exists for a high end cropper.

Canon doesn’t need a cheap FF; the 5dmkii is doing just fine; it still sells out all over.

I think we can be pretty certain that there is no way Canon releases a higher end dslr w/out video.

As for Sony, recent info suggests that the 850 will not sell for less than 2k dollars, but more like 2k euros.

Put all that together, and I still think the 7D will be APS-C.

If it has the same HD as the 5D2 it could be a cheaper video second camera, just wouldn’t use it for stills…5D3 isn’t gonna happen anytime soon.

You guarantee?! What do we get if you’re wrong?

I own a 5D and I love it (I use it more than my 5DII).

This camera (7D) wouldn’t be cutting off fingers, it would be adding another thumb to the 5D.

If the reality was 4 fps that would be one thing, but the reality on the 5D2 is 2.5 fps in servo focus tracking, so when they say 3.9 that’s with everything on manual, fastest shutter speed, AF on manual, and with an Extreme IV CF card.

Obviously anyone doing still life, studio or landscape isn’t going to care, but a lot of people do more than that, if you do events, sports, or wildlife the 5D2 and presumably the 7D are lacking big time.

As for timing, sports and events are not always predictable, and you often get one chance at a shot and it’s gone, and it’s unrealistic of you to suggest people simply improve their timing.

Canon is simply not meeting a lot of photographers needs by ignoring a fast FF in the 5D type/price point.

LOL why are you expecting a 7D to be a 5D equivalent to a 1D. LOL If you’re THAT naive you deserve to be disappointed.

No way. It will be FF, and cheap too. Everyone said there was no need, or no way, Canon would release a sub $1000 DSLR and they went ahead and did it with the REBEL. Look how that camera changed the industry. A sub $2000 FF may not have the performance, bells, whistles, etc that we want, but it will appeal to a mass of the market that does not read this website.

if 7D is replacement for 50D or 50D with more Pro features to compete with D300s then it might be an APS-C.
The problem is, if the leaked price point for 7D is true, then it would be very expensive to sell it at $2700 body only for APS-C camera. what kind of features to justify the price?

XD

+1 for CR!

I think the prices on the best buy leak are the one component that is not accurate.

if you have enough skill you can paint a painting too, 1 fps for sports, hahaha, might as well become a sketch artist and draw it by hand…

so no back up video camera?

never hurts to have a backup imo, nor does it hurt to have a second camera to record another angle…

7D will be called kiss Rebel Ass X7i in Japan

Google it!

I meant BING it!

I don’t know if its true or not but this sounds pretty lack luster.

Regardless how you feel about AF points, and FPS…lets just take a look at this from a profitability standpoint.

More AF points, BETTER AF points, more FPS, competitive Megapixels and ISO quality are needed to sell. FORGET about if it will compete with the 1D.

Canon get your head out your ass and just make a better 1D instead of watering it down.

Most of the time I only do portraits and products so year 9pt AF and the 4FPS thing is fine. But, like I’ve posted many times before, what happens when I want to do nature or sports? Now I’ve got to switch to a $3000-5000 camera because Canon doesn’t have a model under that to fulfill my needs?

I don’t like what’s going on aand I hope that the final specs are atleast 30% better than what’s posted.

– Minh

High ISO performance:

Does it really matter what the resolution is? Two similarly designed sensors of the same size with at least high enough resolution should have the same performance when viewed as a whole picture.

Certainly the per pixel performance will be better with the smaller resolution, but if they’re both resized to the smaller resolution, the higher resolution one will probably actually look a little bit better. Certainly the higher resolution would look better if you upsized the smaller one.

Lets say Canon releases a full frame 10MP camera. Until the high ISO performance restricts details enough on the 5d II, it’ll have higher actual resolution. When the it surpasses that point, then they should be approximately a tie.

For example, you notice how as your increase the ISO, the clarity reduces. It seems possible to define the visible resolution in lines/in (taken of a full screen, like the ISO 12233 crops from http://www.the-digital-picture.com). At lower ISO’s, the higher resolution sensors are going to kick butt. At the higher ISO’s it’ll essentially be a tie, or the higher resolution sensor will win because of the better anti-aliasing from combining pixels.

It has always bothered me that people seem to only care about per pixel performance to claim that one sensor is better than another. I think it should be based on actual perceived resolution per entire image.

Run it through Google Translate here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Farticle.pchome.net%2Fcontent-948640.html&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

Sounds more believable as a prosumer 1D3. Would definitely support the idea of a D300S analog using the APS-H sensor.

agreed

A magical prize!… I have the spec sheet in front of me, like I did with the powershots and the new lensES

This is not stupid! If the AF is better that 5DII, i will buy 2!!

… and definitely don’t forget about lens AF microadjustment – that feature alone makes it worth to get a newer version of the original 5D. And of course, the sensor dust removal, to stop it being a dust magnet the 5D is.

Um…no. I was expecting it to have the same relation to the 5D that the 1D has to the 1Ds. How naive are you?

Have you tried to use the auto focus for tracking birds in flight, or other objects that are moving quickly and changing distance related to the photographer? The autofocus is no good for those situations.

Granted, I would never try to us a 5DII for that since it isn’t designed for that type of work (imo), but it can be considered gimped when it comes to tracking objects using AI Servo. If you disagree than you haven’t tried to use it in that capacity.

Very true. I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks!

I just want to add to the debate regarding whether or not a 12MP FF camera would sell. Everyone who knows their equipment and who do this professionally knows that it’s the quality of each pixel, not the quantity, that matters most.

21MP is a crowded sensor producing bloated files and 3.9 fps is a joke. Just give me a cleaner 12MP any day. The faster better processor could help with the frame rate limitations then. I could get a high quality shot in low light and fire quick enough bursts not to miss the moment between frames.

For Canon wedding shooters, a camera with the specs of the Nikon D700 but at a lower price point would fly off the shelves. Put me down for two.

I have rebelled and sold my rebel the sony alpha 700 has won me over at 5 frames per sec 3″screen, fully or part automatic
clarety and the sharpness of the photos is better,
canon does not know or care what joe public wants
it is a shame,

Can’t wait to receive mine. Preordered it already.