Canon Rebel T2i [CR2]

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Next week
The new Rebel coming next week is apparently going to be called the “T2i”.

Spec List
New LCD (Even Higher Resolution)
Selectable FPS (Video)
New build quality and shape for a Rebel
No articulating screen
New battery LP-E8
New battery grip

CR Editorial about Articulating Screens
I don't think Canon will introduce an articulating screen until we have a faster liveview autofocus technology. There are situations that an articulating screen is handy on an SLR with the current liveview performance, however I don't think it's an issue for a majority of SLR users.

Canon has probably focus grouped this feature to death.

That's just my 2 cents.  :)

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224 Comments
  • Canon really needs to offer a DSLR with an articulating screen. Canon’s innovation in the usability area (ergonomics & features)proceeds at about the pace continents move.

  • i hope it will be larger:P I want something in between current xxxD’s and xxD’s.. let the xxxxD be smaller..

  • I guess not… althoug this would be amazing. The wheel could fit on the other side of the pop up flash as well. Even if there is less space compared to the 7D oder XXD…

  • It is feasible to put it on the xxxD bodies right now. As you said, just move the dial to the other side and you have enough space for a top LCD screen.

    I would gladly buy this as a second camera to my XSi if it had this feature.

  • Since no articulating screen on the T2i (and why replace it if its only 1 yr old !?)..the 60D likewise won’t have that art. screen…but more res would be nice. Glad the screen is normal !!

  • I’m pretty sure this won’t be the actual specs. A better display than the 7D? And a better battery? I really don’t think so. Not as a 550D.

  • A 720×480 screen will have 1,036,800 dots if 3 color pixels (R,G,B) are used to represent each image pixel. If 4 color pixels for each image pixels, the number of dots goes up to 1.38M!

  • Now that 7D has a brand new AF system, maybe the next Rebel can get the AF system from the 40D/50D.

    I doubt the MP count will be less than 15MP, though. We might even see the 18MP sensor from the 7D make way to the XXXD family. This will automatically come with better ISO, as well.

  • What I would really like to see is a secondary control wheel that lets you set exposure compensation w/o messing with any buttons…

  • +1

    But Canon has quite a history of cheaper consumer-oriented models outspecing the contemporary more expensive “prosumer” model, at least regarding those specs that make good headline features. So it is not totally impossible.

    If it really had a better screen than the 7D, now that would REALLY p*** me off, all the other things don’t really matter.

    And I also agree with some other comments here that the redesign suggested as part of this spec list would be quite an extreme move by a conservative company like the one Canon has become. Well, we’ll see soon enough.

  • It MUST be right around the corner, since I bought the Sigma 30 1.4 not long ago, me being Murphy’s favorite victim. ;-)

  • Canon focus groups seem not to agree with you. I too would like this feature but it hardly is an essential one.

  • I don’t think it’s physically possible. One of the determining factors for the so-called pancake lenses is the flange focal distance which is much shorter on 4/3 systems.

  • “I’m pretty sure this won’t be the actual specs. A better display than the 7D? And a better battery? I really don’t think so. Not as a 550D.”

    Who says that the battery is going to be better? It’s new, it’s different but doesn’t have to be “better”.

  • Sensible and not spectacular.

    After the quite revolutionary 7D it would be too much to expect Canon to come up yet again with something new and fresh.

  • Awesome news! Hopefully same size, but just with a bigger grip. :-)

    I’d love for the T2i to be the first consumer FF dslr, but that ain’t gonna happen. Lol.

    But if they add a REAL 1080p frame rate of 24 and a 720 option of 30 and 60 fps, I’m SOLD.

    Just hope they don’t try to cram like 18 megapixels into it tho and keep it at 15 max. :-)

    Been holding off buying the rebel until they updated, so I’m excited. The rebel is the perfect size dslr for traveling which i do alot of.

  • I would personally prefer an articulating screen for 2 reasons –

    1. Shot framing – you don’t use the screen anyways, you use the viewfinder on a dslr. I’ve been holding off on buying a dslr, but everything I’ve read says that you aren’t going to use the back screen for framing shots where you can hold the camera up to your face anyways. So a bigger screen doesn’t matter here, but an articulating screen would give you a legitimate use for liveview – framing the shot when you can’t use the viewfinder.

    2. Shot review – I actually love the lcd, I prefer not wasting space with a viewfinder on the pocket cameras I own. However, I’ve learned from experience deciding which pictures to keep or delete based on how they look on the rear lcd is really, really bad idea. My friend who owns a big honking nikon dslr says he found the same thing – you just don’t know what the pic looks like until you actually put it on your computer.

    Thus, I have no practical use for a bigger fancier schmansier rear lcd than is already on the t1i. But an articulating rear lcd could be useful.

  • I would add one – better white balance under incandescent lighting. No yellow cast that requires post processing or using a gray card to fix.

  • Just 1 thought and I probably will return my 7D XD…
    Does this one have manual lens focusing calibration?
    I return my T1i just because it is not perfectly match with my lens…
    Well, the other reason is that T1i doesn’t have 1080p 30 FPS

  • “If it really had a better screen than the 7D, now that would REALLY p*** me off, all the other things don’t really matter. ”

    Why?

    This is very irrational behaviour. Just because a newer product has a feature that’s better than an older one (irrespective of the product line positioning) it does not make the older product any “worse”. I really hate this sort of unreasonable moaning.

  • Revolutionary? Are you serious?

    They achieved market parity with the Nikon D300; two years afterward.

  • Math isn’t my strong suit, but rearranging your formula would yield:

    wet dreams = epic FAIL – fools

  • i would buy that pancake wide nice, camera companies need to get back to affordable wide primes espcially for apc’s primes are light sharper and don’t suck dust.

  • I have a 5D, but would consider a Rebel sized-cam with the 40/50D AF system. Better ISO is good, too. More buttons (the helpful kind, not direct print) would be good.

    I hope they redesign the rebel body. At least put some life into Canon options. They’ve been kind of stagnant outside the 7D lately. It’d be nice to see something really new and cool.

  • If you get a more power-hungry display, you need a higher speced battery just to keep the same battery life. So, it might be better as in better spec, but that might not translate into more time between charging, so I agree with you.

  • “Revolutionary? Are you serious?”

    Yes I am and yes it is. In the context of the EOS line-up it was a revolutionary model, designed from ground up and not just an update of an existing model.

    “They achieved market parity with the Nikon D300; two years afterward”

    Market parity? Please look up what it actually means as it really has nothing to do with what you were trying to say.

    I think that 7D is a far superior camera but feel free to think otherwise.

  • Is is possible that Canon announce only 2 DSLR in 2010 ?
    The Rebel T2i and the expected 1Ds4 ?
    If so, i would be very disappointed about that.
    I want a FF body with focusing system better than 5D2 to replace my 400D……Common Canon

  • Hmm… I guess I’ll hold off on a 450D (I sold my 400D that I’ve had for ages to get one) to see what this is like. Things I would absolutely love to see would be a 100% viewfinder, manually adjustable color temperature, and better high ISO performance. Mix that in with slightly improved AF (though I still find even the current AF to be very good) and I’ll buy one.

  • My colleague has a D5000 with an articulating screen. To her, it’s practically useless ‘cos the contrast based AF is too slow (and Nikon has been struggling with contrast AF since the compact digicam days).

    It’s always a nice IDEA to have an articulating screen. But one can easily live without it.

    Image quality is FAR FAR more important.

  • The 7D was, for Canon, a very much needed step in the right direction…..but it is not revolutionary…..Canon was getting their clocks cleaned by the D300……both the 1D3 and 5D2 had/have lousy AF systems….50% of all 5D2 sales were to film/video makers who don’t even use the stills photo ability….Canon needed to make a vast improvement in their AF system……….the Nikon D3x, D3, D700 all use Nikon’s pro AF system…and the D300 has a very slightly reduced version of pro AF…..all Nikon with pop-up flash also work as flash controllers….the list goes on and on…..ya, Canon needed to step-up big just to breakeven….the 7D is still missing dual card slots of the D300S…..but its a step in the right direction, it gives me some hope…ps, I shoot Canon.

  • Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8 is very small and flat and works on Canon EOS with an adaptor.

    Or do you mean a wide lens isn’t possible?

  • From your own post that I was actually answering “Would be great if they released a wide pancake lens to go with such a small body”.

  • Handling could really use a boost. I’ll pic one up if they can make it work with my large hands. As it is the T1i comes fairly close, but just never gets it.

  • They could discontinue the XSi and XS and just produce the T1i and T2i. Drop the body only T1i to msrp of $599 and have the body only T2i at $799.

  • They need to do something to compete with the Nikon D5000. I suspect sales against the D5000 are slipping.

    I agree that slow Autofocus makes the video pretty much useless for the average user.

    How fast is the contrast detect autofocus one the 1d MK IV videos??

  • Only boring to those people who don’t use them. For the rest of us they represent an excellent value and entree into an excellent selection of EF and EF-S lenses. They serve as backups, travel-light companions, and the primary body of the majority of DSLR owners.

    I love my 5D2 and I prefer the handling on the XXD series, but I have had 2 rebels since 2007 for traveling and never regretted not having a full size body.

    Now is a Rebel rumor more boring than a 3D rumor, or a 24-70 2.8IS rumor, or a 100-400 f4-5.6 rumor? Probably…

  • The articulating screen could have been the ONLY interesting upgrade, but they decided not to include that.
    I’d rather have an articulating and lower resolution LCD than a higher resolution but fixed screen. My vision is not bad, but I don’t see any practical use for 920k in 3 inch LCDs.

  • I agree that an articulating screen is no big deal.

    Also, if Canon is smart, they will make the body somewhat smaller…people who buy the Rebel series value smaller size.

  • Almost every time I am at an public event (Show, parade, other) I find a reason to want to shoot from over my head to get a clean shot and I always have to guess to aim. However I agree that a flip screen isnt my most desired feature.

  • Lol, probably michal was sleeping for 2 years. 7d would’ve been a revolutionary product if it was released in 2007. but in 2009, canon had to release 7D to hold its market.

  • Oh yea.revolutionary.

    Flash master, on demand grid lines, level meter, color based AF tracking, Hi res lcd screen, transparent lcd screen etc are all revolutionary in CANON world.

    One more revolution is 3 step AEB. and ya, it has so-called weather proof body aswell……..not weather sealed, coz world ends if Pro AF and weather sealed body comes down to consumer body

  • Yes smaller. They can make it smaller yet better. The D40/60 is smaller, but heavier and “thicker.” It’s much easier to hold. I don’t have larger hands, and after just a couple minutes with a 550exII on, my hand started to cramp.

  • I recently played around with a Sony alpha… and was quite im pressed by the reasonable fast liveview-AF. Why can’t Canon have such a fast lifeview-AF? Is it that difficult to engineer?

  • I SERIOUSLY doubt that they would introduce a camera with NO new features. T1i has video… so, what, theyre going to bump up the video to 60P? WOW. 1.5 years and that’s all they can come up with? I think this should be CR1 and I believe that it’ll have an articulating screen. Video and articulating screens go hand and hand. Tripods and articulating screens work GREAT together. Don’t tell me it focuses faster without live view, we’re not idiots but most of us aren’t sports photographers either. When composition counts more than speed, I’ll take a fully articulated screen any day of the week.

  • You don’t need to use 18% gray card. Simply shoot RAW+JPG and use DPP. From WB menu use Tungsten option and correct Color temperature until you get satisfactory result. Then improve some other issues and Convert & save to JPG. When you find the difference you will never drop the RAW power. Give it a try, you don’t need to invest any money, only your time. The most important thing about RAW: you can discard the camera WB setting and use quite new in a very creative way. Compare JPG from camera and your own one. The difference could be shocking!

  • Sony has a completely different approach to implement live view. They have a secondary image senser (smaller res) built which is dedicated to live view only and is optimized to support contrast AF. Downside is that you can’t zoom in that much to check critical focus (important for macro and repro shots) due to lower res, and there is the potential for a minor shift in what the secondary sensor captures and what ends up on the memory card coming from the main sensor.

  • It’s a bit love-hate… focus is sometimes not totally spot on, so images would not be sharp enough for large reproductions. The overall appearance of the images (colors, bokeh), however, is great.

  • Of course you are right that this thinking is somewhat irrational of me, and I am fully aware of that.
    It would simply annoy me, cause I just shelled out major bucks for the 7D and would hate seeing it out-speced by a cheapish Rebel.

    Would you like your Audi A6 be outspeced by the coming compact A1? Probably not.

  • I would not care less. Whatever I have purchased is just as good as it was when I bought it, I don’t care that newwer models are better, that does not make my original purchase any worse.

  • I’m sorry I don’t agree. This is an essential feature.

    Its much more important than you think. I am over 6ft tall and don’t want to always be bent over a view finder to take photos. Most tripods sit below my eyeline. Many good photos need lower angles than my eyeline when handheld. There is a huge number of reasons on my list for a rotating screen and to move away from an optical view finder.

    That is why, when I bought a 5D Mark II, I hated it’s ergonomics, especially for video and I found myself happier with a 12 megapixel Panasonic GH1 instead, which is better for video anyway.

    That is the camera of the future. Canon may still be satisfying the focus groups and people who don’t know any better but believe me I have seen the light and I have seen Canon falling behind on usability, and if they don’t address issues like full-live view, get rid of the mirror box, and get some decent live view GH1 style AF in their lenses and camera bodies they are FINISHED.

  • Who the hell needs a higher res screen than 900k??

    Not even the 5D and 7D have better resolution. Maybe it will be handy for people who use a Zacuto Z-Finder, but certainly not the average Rebel user.

    Crazy stuff. Maybe this is another idiotic focus group suggestion, full of people who think a higher number on the box makes a better camera.

  • I can confirm 540D is comming next week indeed.
    Better build quality then previous xxxD series.
    This camera will set new standards and will be positioned between xxxD and xxD.

    This does however come with a backside which is no new xxD for some time to come.

  • If you bought the 7D to own a good camera you can shoot good pictures with, you should not be pissed of. The screen of the 7D is good enough. However, technology always moves on and there will always be a better camera one day. But if you’re concerned about making good pictures rather than having the latest gimmicks on your DSLR this won’t be a problem. :)

  • Why are you going to return the 7D? Because of the rumored spec list here? Or are there any flaws on your sample?

    If it is the first one: While I also don’t like cheaper models outspecing the higher-end ones, in particular if I just bought the latter (see the discussion somewhere above), the 7D will still be in a completely different league than any Rebel for the next 2 or 3 years. Canon has a price point to meet, that means: No metal case, slower FPS (allowing shutter and mirror mechanism to be constructed much cheaper), cheaper AF, smaller and darker viewfinder (pentamirror instead of -prism) without 100% coverage.
    However, regarding all the other stuff that is cheap to add like a newer sensor (since size is the primary factor in sensor cost, a new sensor will only initially be a tad more expensive than an older lower res one, and if you can use the same sensor across several models, economy of scale kicks in and it will end up being cheaper than having two different sensors in your lineup) or some software gimmicks, the coming rebels will soon look better than the 7D.

  • Of course we would all like to have the “rumored” (I feel that “rumored” is actually too much to say… it is more like a collective wet dream ;) ) 3D, I doubt many of us that lust for such a camera would be willing to shell out the big $$$ that Canon would be asking for it.

  • macro photo or similar from a low position could also benefit from a flip screen, especially since you’d probably be focusing manually too..

  • So then please elaborate on the new features a little bit.

    And to prove that you REALLY have some inside knowledge, you could tell us a tiny bit of detail information that, while not revealing anything that might be highly classified about the camera, would enable us to verify that you indeed really knew about it (if it does come out) and were not just guessing. For example, tell us the capacity of the new battery or something like that.

  • You might be without a camera for quite some time. And even if such a camera would be presented next week, it would still take a few weeks for it to be readily available.

    And don’t hope for a 100% optical viewfinder, which is a particular expensive thing to do and thus won’t show up in an entry-level camera any time soon. Of course if they made it an *electronic* viewfinder than you might be lucky. ;-)

  • Be aware of some surprises by early fall then…50D – was it introduced in August? So there’s still plenty o’ time to launch another crop body release in addition to this one and the rumored 1Ds4.

  • Maybe its a different Screen technology – OLED so take to opportunigy to get above the 1M screen mark?

  • Thanks for your consistent message, i’m beginning to come over to your war of thinking and actually hoping for a very good sensor on a 600D(whatever). The new 1000 Rannge then has somewhere to go. I hope you right about next week and delivery soon after.

  • I have to side with Michal here for once, even though his previous post about EF-S primes contradicts what he said in the past about making primes for the EF-S cams :P. What the Noink fanbois here don’t understand is that Canon has never competed in the ~$1800 price bracket before, so to say that the 7D was “copying” the D300 is a case of the “post hoc, ergo propter hoc” logical fallacy. The xxD line was in the $1300 price range, that’s a huge difference. So to compare the two is idiotic nonsense. What we can say is Canon decided they *wanted* to compete with Nikon more directly in that price segment, previously their products in the consumer/serious-amateur line never really matched-up directly.

  • “optimized to support contrast AF” -I thought it worked by giving a video-stream to the LCD from a camera above the viewfinder position (i.e. with the mirror down), thus allowing phase detect AF to remain operational?

    The downside to Sony’s system is the reduced size of the optical viewfinder because of this (-but I can’t see a reason why it couldn’t be made larger). Also, it is not as accurate as contrast detect AF and (as you point out) cannot be magnified.

  • Also, why is the issue with articulating screens conjoined with the relatively-slower CD AF in LV & Video? Articulating screens would also be useful for odd-angled macro shots on a tripod, where looking at the VF or a fixed LCD screen would entail a contortionist’s flexibility. It’s also good for more discreet unposed portraits, etc., where you can even use the faster phase-detect AF.

  • Don’t Olympus have a 25mm f2.8 pancake lens for the 4/3rds system? I know that this has a smaller flange back distance, but it still has to accommodate a mirror. Would it not be possible to scale up slightly?

  • Being a 500D / T1i user, I may consider this if it had the articulating screen.

    I like to take a lot of self-portrait shots (with my girlfriend in them as well) and it would be good to see where I’m aiming and to adjust the focus.

    Currently I just basically hold my 2 hands out and aim for her eye by looking at the lens haha.

    Question, would 60fps 720p mean my current 30fps 720p movies would be twice the size?

  • They might make the aspect ratio a bit wider to accommodate 16:9 video playback (maybe 768×480 WVGA 16:10). However, looking at the current model, there is not much room for a wider screen unless they replace the buttons with a touch screen. They will probably just remove the black border (like they did on the 7D) to increase the screen size and resolution without taking up more space.

  • I didn’t recheck the exact details about Sony’s liveview implementation, but I did now. Here is a quote from DPR about the Alpha 550:

    “The A550 becomes the first DSLR since Olympus’s innovative, if esoteric, Evolt E-330 to offer two distinct live view modes. The first – as seen in many other Alpha models – uses a tiny secondary sensor to give a (relatively low-resolution) preview, allowing the use of the conventional DSLR phase-detection AF sensor to give rapid auto focusing (phase detection requires the main mirror to be down, so can’t be used by other live view DSLRs unless the mirror is flipped down and up again before each shot).

    New for the A550 is the catchily-named ‘MF CHECK LV’ mode, which – like all other SLR live view systems – lets you flip the mirror and use the main sensor for live view. This produces a higher quality preview (and one with less cropping of the frame), but there’s no autofocus (as the name implies). Apart from the face detection and autofocus aspects the on-screen display is the same in both modes.”

    from http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyalphadslra550/page7.asp

    So no contrast detect at all in Sonys, it seems. They could add it to the “main sensor live view mode”, though.

    Lets just agree that Sonys implemenation has its advantages. If Canon could do something like that without sacrificing optical viewfinder size or brightness, I would happily take one.

  • You will probably get it one day, but I doubt it will be this year or the next. :-)
    It could actually be some time away, since it seems that manufacturing cost of silicon per area doesn’t drop as quickly. But without knowing how much it currently costs Canon or Nikon (or rather Sony) to manufacture an APS-C vs. FF sensor (absolute and relative pricing), all we can do is guessing here.
    It could be 10$ vs. 50$ or 25$ vs. 50$, or 100 vs. 500$, your guess is as good as mine.

  • Well, I don’t know about “essential”; after all, the camera will work without it.

    There are times when I cannot use the viewfinder and many of those times, I cannot use the screen for the same reason that I cannot use the viewfinder: I cannot get my eye behind the camera. Nearly every time I use live view without a tripod is a time that I want an articulating screen, otherwise I would just use the viewfinder.

    Maybe Canon should take a leaf out of Samsung’s book–with a twist. Replace the top-mounted LCD with a small live-view display (monochrome would be OK) so I can see where I’m aiming the camera when it is on the floor.

  • Point 2 – depends

    You can’t really judge colours – agreed.
    You can’t really judge sharpness (sharp or slightly blurred) – agreed.

    But if someone walked into your shot, you’d see that on an LCD and could delete the image- or if blur is so significant that there would be no way that you can rescue the image anyway.

  • Agreed, but your last caveat is the most important “without sacrificing optical viewfinder size or brightness”. APS-C DSLRs have small enough viewfinders as it is.

  • Go get yourself an Olympus Tough compact.

    Even weather sealed bodies like the D3 and 1Ds3 are damaged by rain:

    “The Canon 1DsIII, in spite of weather sealing, has often had fogging inside the LCD screens; even worse, after one week the exposure meter has gone crazy, underexposing all the photos by about 2-3 stops…

    My friend Simone has not had better luck: his Nikon D3 developed various problem, and three lenses got stuck and heavily fogged…

    In conclusion, this experience has taught me that weather sealing sometimes helps (as with the 24-105), but in heavy rain it is not a guarantee, even with the best sealing as those used on 1DsIII and D3. From now I’ll no longer thrust the weather sealing – I’ll simply protect the camera with a transparent plastic bag, that is light years better than any weather sealing.”

    – from http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/articles-nature/travel_photo_notes_from_the_world.htm

  • Who are you? The guy that buys 90% of Canon’s dSLR’s? :D

    Never say never, but still, I will never buy a dSLR with an articulating screen, maybe a second cheap camera, but not the main one. And the main reason for that is that you can easily break it. I shoot, not 100% of the time, but still a lot in the conditions in witch this little thing can get broken and that’s gonna be a problem.

  • Give me, please:

    High priority:

    1) a silent mirror box! (50-70% of 400D-500D mirror boxes creak). No other camera on the market creaks like that.

    2) only 8MP with 2 stops better ISO. So that I can shoot ISO 6400 portraits.

    3) Higher fps.

    4) AF micro adjustment.

    5) Video lens with IS and smooth controls (zoom / AF) and/or in-body IS.

    6) AV video mode!

    Medium priority:

    7) Smooth AF in video mode. It can be slow, but it should be smooth for all lenses.. or at least USM ones.

    8) Quick switch between photo shooting and video.

    Low priority:

    9) 2 user modes (each should remember its exposure compensations, including flash compensation).

    10) flash trigger (I suspect that this will come at a cost, so I can live without that).

    And this should be a killer.

  • While he didn’t say so explicitly, I think what he wants is a 7D with the size, price, and weight of a Rebel.

  • Thanks. I guess these are sold units, not revenues, right?
    Interesting to note, I had not expected Canon to dominate that much. However, as other kinds of products show, the Japanese market is very special. I would like to see how the different brands and their respective models fare in the rest of the world.

    What I also find interesting is that the D90 clearly beats the 50D. Unfortunately, the higher end models do not all show up in this list, so we can’t find out if the domination of Canon is not as strong in the higher end market segment, but given that while the 5DII and the 7D do show and their Nikon equivalents don’t, it will probably be about the same.

  • Well, even I could have guessed that if a new battery is introduced, it will be chipped.
    Give me a number which would be hard to guess right, e.g., battery has 1255mAh, or the camera is 11.2cm in height or something like that. If you hit that one, the CR guy might list you as a new CR3 source. :-)

  • 1) a silent mirror box! (50-70% of 400D-500D mirror boxes creak). No other camera on the market creaks like that.

    I doubt they will revamp the shutter+mirror assembly. Mechanical stuff is expensive. And is their really a difference in the sound that different samples of the same model make? I find my 450D sounds exactly the same as the handful of other 450Ds I have heard so far.

    2) only 8MP with 2 stops better ISO. So that I can shoot ISO 6400 portraits.

    Not in a Rebel. Not in any new DSLR. You would never be able to sell those to Joe Consumer looking for something more serious than his 3-year-old P&S if it is not at least on par with the resolution. And you wouldn’t be able to sell it to me. Want lower noise at high ISO? Just use mRAW or sRAW, or downsample in DPP, PS or whatever you prefer.

    3) Higher fps.

    Not in a Rebel. Requires higher end mechanical parts, which are expensive. Would also eat away xxD sales.

    4) AF micro adjustment.

    That is one thing that we might see as it is probably only a flag to set when compiling the firmware. But they still might leave it out due to market segment separation. After all, the 500D didn’t get it, even though the 50D already did, and these two models obviously share much of the software and electronics.

    5) Video lens with IS and smooth controls (zoom / AF) and/or in-body IS.

    I find the controls of even the cheaper of my Canon lenses smooth enough… and the that IS would have to be very silent and mechanically decoupled from the lens body, as it would otherwise be audible in video.
    BTW, this brings us to a feature that you forgot in your listing, but which you also won’t get in a Rebel: External microphone connector.

    6) AV video mode!

    Maybe, being mainly a software thing, but again probably not to protect higher end models.

    Medium priority:
    7) Smooth AF in video mode. It can be slow, but it should be smooth for all lenses.. or at least USM ones.

    The way contrast AF works is by moving the focal plane around and looking for the spot where contrast in the selected focus area is highest. Consequently, you need to “overshoot” the point of sharpest focus at least a tiny bit to know that you actually were at it… that’s why the AF “pumps”. Of course you could make that pumping more subtle, but that would require changing focus REEAAAALLYY SLOOOWLY.

    8) Quick switch between photo shooting and video.

    The 7D has it, but also every P&S has it. Maybe they will remap an existing button for it.

    Low priority:
    9) 2 user modes (each should remember its exposure compensations, including flash compensation).

    Not in a Rebel, (semi-)pro feature.

    10) flash trigger (I suspect that this will come at a cost, so I can live without that).

    Not in a Rebel. I guess 90% of people buying a Rebel will never even buy an external flash (or a lens beyond the two kit lenses, for that matter).

  • 1) >> I find my 450D sounds exactly the same as the handful of other 450Ds I have heard so far.

    But it does sound loudly. My film EOS Rebel T2 (300x) has much-much more silent mirror box. In fact, I love 300x for its silence, large viewfinder and FF….

    2) 8MP. Using RAW and downsampling does not give that result as lower MP sensor would. Canon just needs a good advertising campaign. Nikon D3s has *only* 12 MP, but who cares when it has best high ISO in the market? There is a separate camera for those preferring high MP. I printed 4MP photos in A4 size for my photoshow, and they looked very sharp.

    First DSLR buyers are not that stupid, how it is considered – after their first series of shots in the dark they turn off flash and start experimenting with ISO, then they see how noisy it is, and start blaming manufacturer for it. Also, believe me, there are 400D-500D customers, who are serious about photography (as me), who make well thought choices in lenses.

    5) >>I find the controls of even the cheaper of my Canon lenses smooth enough.

    Well, you have to be an extraordinary person to use a zoom ring smooth enough for video =)

    10) >> I guess 90% of people buying a Rebel will never even buy an external flash (or a lens beyond the two kit lenses, for that matter).

    DSLRs should be targeted for different people, who are thinking (or start thinking) serious about photography. I for example own 5 lenses (35/50/100 f/2, 70-200 f/4 L) and 430 EX II.

  • Wow! It seems like one page has spiralled into lots of opinions and many different takes on how this t2i will turn out…

    IMHO, I think Canon will not replace their 500D which is still very competitive [with 15.1 MP which has made many people believe it is a better choice over Nikon’s entry-levels] So they might be releasing the t2i to compete with the D90, and if it is more advanced than the D90, we might expect no 60D. However, if it is more towards the 500D, then we might still hope for a 60D, perhaps later this year. If it is roughly the same as the 500D [which I doubt] it will mean the 60D is coming out quite soon.

    My humble opinion. Might not turn out; might be accurate, but the 9th of Feb will be intresting. :S

  • >>>> I find my 450D sounds exactly the same as the handful of other 450Ds I have heard so far.

    >>But it does sound loudly.

    In principle I agree, the Rebels are quite loud, and sound a little bit cheap. More like “atchoo” than “Click”. :-)

    >> 2) 8MP. Using RAW and downsampling does not give that result as lower MP sensor would. Canon just needs a good advertising campaign. Nikon D3s has *only* 12 MP, but who cares when it has best high ISO in the market? There is a separate camera for those preferring high MP.

    Yes, Nikon has exactly one camera with more than 12MP, and its ~8000$, IIRC. But there are a lot of serious amateurs with Nikons that would love to have higher MP without shelling out that much money. But perhaps Nikonians will get their 5DII equivalent (but probably with better autofocus) sooner or later.

    > I printed 4MP photos in A4 size for my photoshow, and they looked very sharp.

    I was also quite satisfied with the 4MP my Ixus 40 gave me. And looking back, its not the lack of resolution that makes the images look shabby compared to those from a DSLR.

    >> First DSLR buyers are not that stupid,

    Of course not. But many people just want better pictures or maybe just a more serious looking camera, without hanging around on photography websites and getting themselves informed. For most people, a camera is a convenience product.

    >>how it is considered – after their first series of shots in the dark they turn off flash and start experimenting with ISO, then they see how noisy it is, and start blaming manufacturer for it.

    If these people come from a P&S, they will be very happy with what they see… regardless of whether it’s from a 450D, 7D, 5DII, or probably even a “ancient” 300D.

    >> Also, believe me, there are 400D-500D customers, who are serious about photography (as me), who make well thought choices in lenses.

    I know that very well, I used to have “only” a 450D till last december, but had already purchased several lenses, two of which are L zooms (24-105, 70-200 f4 IS), two fast primes (EF 85 1.8, Sigma 30 1.4), and one fast APS-C zoom (17-55 f2.8 IS). The fact that I recently upgraded to a 7D doesn’t make me look down on Rebels. Image quality and feature wise they are very nice, but it is more obvious that they are a compromise, designed to hit a price point AND provide features appealing also to less well-informed first-time DSLR buyers. A 7D is also a compromise, but less so. At higher price. Even a 1D is.

    >>Well, you have to be an extraordinary person to use a zoom ring smooth enough for video =)

    I think video with a DSLR is not merely a problem with non-smooth zoom ring, but rather incompativle ergonomics of a camera designed for stills photography.

    And all my Canon zooms are smooth compared to the Tamron 18-270 I once gave a try. ;-)

    >> DSLRs should be targeted for different people, who are thinking (or start thinking) serious about photography.

    DSLRs, first and foremost, are target at making their manufacturers money.

    >> I for example own 5 lenses (35/50/100 f/2, 70-200 f/4 L) and 430 EX II.

    See my comments above. I don’t want to sound snobbish, after all, I was and still am happy with the 450D’s image quality. If it wasn’t that I felt the need for a self-reward, I would be happily using it as my only camera, while now it is my backup and lightweight travel body. And I would probably be very excited about every rumor about a revolutionary new Rebel (unless it turns out to be a Canon EVIL which would need new lenses). ;-)

  • It’s been some time since I saw the statistic so I don’t have the link in my history anymore, but from what I read the 5dII outsells the D700 by a very very big margin. I’ve asked a few shops I know the owners of in Australia and with the exception of the one that isn’t a “canon Professional” dealer (so hence can’t get anything higher then XXD directly) they all report to sell more 5dII’s then D700’s… I’d really like a solid statistic for the top/pro camera’s from both though.

  • Sounds like kind of a mixed bag.

    I’ve been kicking myself in the ass ever since I sold my 35 1.4L, and have been looking for a decent replacement. It sounds like there really is no good substitute though.

  • I guess I would prefer if they changed the direction of the XXD to something like the D90 or Pentax K-7, but a rebel with better build and ergonomics and some additional features for serious photogs would be OK too. Just improve the friggin’ grip for pete’s sake – for $800 you should be able to buy a camera that’s comfortable to hold.

  • Yes, bcnranking only tracks units sold, NOT shipped.

    It’ll be interesting to get the same kind of data worldwide, but it’s not easy. I know the T1i/500D is the bestselling DSLR in Singapore but it’s a small market. No definite details for the N American and European market.

  • The fact that Canon produces 10 million lenses worldwide every ~2 years probably says something. :)

  • I’m conflicted, on the one hand I want to say something snarky like how I could push my car down the road but that doesn’t make up for the engine not working, but on the other hand though I already know how to do what you described your advice is practical and if I didn’t know, would be helpful, even if it does have that “your time is completely free” bent to it.

    I’m aware that I can mess around with settings and usually fix the white balance myself afterwards. I already do that. I just see no reason why I *have* to do that. The camera should be able to do a good job on it’s own, with pictures only requiring tweaks in rare situations, or if I want to create some sort of artistic effect.

  • :-))) nice formula !

    You can also obtain:

    epic = (fools + wet dreams) / fail

    or of course:

    fools = epic fail – wet dreams

  • Actually it sounds exactly like you completely agree with me 100%. I’m not saying a rear lcd is useless, but I can do what you’re saying with the current size/resolution lcd, I’m just saying more resolution isn’t going to be nearly as helpful as an articulating screen. Just…like you’re saying. ;-)

  • I would not be surprised if the new Rebel is Full Frame, remember the 1st one came out just after the 10D for a lot cheaper.

    High ISO and Pro AF, better video etc is what will separate consumer cameras from Pro cameras for the next few years.

    It is only a matter of time before FF sensors will be needed in the consumer market to create product differentiation, Canon is usually ahead of the game when it comes to setting features.

  • I’ll grant I would like a 7D (heck, I’d LOVE one), the only reason I don’t have one though is because it (and the lenses I’d like to use to really bring out the sensor’s full potential) is out of my price range, which means going after another Rebel for the moment. I’m pretty much planning on keeping the next camera I get for a few years, by which time I intend to go full frame and get a 5D MkIII (should be out by then, right?).

  • I agree with this thought. The T2i could be aimed at the D90 segment: the $1000 camera. But, I question naming it T2i if it is really a new line of camera. But who the heck knows why marketers name the cameras the way they do. Who cares, even. In any case, we wouldn’t really need a 60D. The 7D will eventually fall in price (already has) to fill a gap around $1500. Six dslrs is a lot. Add the mythical 3D to the mix and you have seven and that’s probably all Canon would need.

    T1i – $600
    T2i – $1000
    7D – $1600
    5D2 – $2400
    (3D) – $3000
    1D4 – $5000
    1Ds4 – $8000

  • Useless features:
    – Higher resolution on a tiny (3″) LCD
    – Adjustable frame rate
    – More megapixel. 10 to 12MP is more than enough for most. Out of thousands of (good) shots, I printed a few at 8″x10″, and 8MP is enough for that size. Pros may need more, but they don’t use Rebels anyway.

    Useful features that could have been included:
    – Articulating LCD: it’s a must for videos, macro and event/theme park/parade/stadium/baby/… shots
    – Autofocus adjust
    – Cross AF points at the sides. Just 2 more points on both sides is enough
    – In-body IS – this will probably never come in a Canon body.

  • I think everyone would like better white balance, and its a mystery to me why I can click on the auto tone in lightroom and correct 90% of the white balance problems while it can’t be done in camera. Its just software.

    No camera manufacturer DSLR or point and shoot does a good job with incandescent white balance, not even on the $8,000 models.

    Just last week, my wife had taken some photos with her P&S under incandescent lights and was complaiining about the poor colors. I showed her how to fix them, and then showed how the flash will usually overpower the incandesent lights and give correct color. but why we have to do this is a mystery, perhaps there is just not enough compiting power in a camera to do this quickly enough to get the fast fps that everyone wants.

  • Isn’t that the same thing? You must move the lens away from the sensor, and the resulting assembly of lens plus adapter is larger.

  • How I envy all the people who say that an articulating screen is not required or is low priority. I am one of many thousands of people with back problems and I am just unable to get shots I want without having an articulating screen.

    Has the so called ‘Focus Group’ ever considered disabled photographers? I think not. I use an SX10iS, simply because it does what others can’t do because of the articulated screen, but I REALLY want a DSLR. Any chance Canon???

  • Well, I think that your point is a good one. It is entirely possible that they will be moving the Rebel to a higher market so that it can compete with the D90 effectively. I am a Canon user, but I have to admit that using my friend’s D90 has me a little jealous, since the D90 was smaller than my XSi and had all the features I wished were in it (better shutter sound, top LCD, more customizable features).

  • Can I post as Ken Rockwell too?

    The sad thing is, it’s hard to tell a troll from The Real Ken Rockwell.

  • > I suspect sales against the D5000 are slipping.

    They should be more concerned about the K-x.

  • 1) Incandescent light is hard for the WB sensor to notice.

    2) Your computer has a lot more processing power than the camera. It can take a whole second to scan the whole photo and then decide what the proper tone could be. Our cameras’ processor doesn’t have that much juice. It simply takes a reading off the WB sensor and decides what setting to apply. Less analysis required.

  • Just a week or so ago the spec said articulated screen, but I’m afraid this one is right. Canon don’t seem to want to make articulted screens on dSLRs, 50D was also rumored to have one for a while.

    Anyway, it’s still only a rumor and if Canon is updating the 500D to compete with D90 in stead of upgrading the 50D that is the model that need an upgrade to then it’s a really weird decision from Canon.

    Anyway, there are several models to choose from if you need an articulted screen. The Nikon D5000 is an excellent model and Olympus have several good models with even better LCD-screen solutions. Sony has tiltable LCD’s if that’s enough.

    Personally I’m tempted by Micro FourThirds, particulary the GH1 which has an excellent articulated screen, a pretty good movie mode and also give a much smaller system size. I can always keep my Canon dSLR, telezoom and maybe another allround lens for action shots and use the Panasonic for everything else.

  • Thank you Spam, I appreciate your reply.

    Having just had a quick look, the Nikon has a bottom hinged screen which, while different, does what the Canon does and the Olympus screen is very similar to the SX10iS. My difficulty is that I love Canon and am used to their menus etc. Also that I have a 28-80 and a 70-300 lens which I used for a long time on my EOS600 35mm SLR which I still have. You can see why I really was looking forward to the predicted articulated screen from Canon (and why I am getting so disappointed at the rumours that they will not have them on their new DSLR’s). I didn’t really want to start a full new system and was going to use my lenses for local bird shooting etc and then when I can afford it get a 18-270 as general purpose for hols etc.

    Thanks again for your suggestions. Hopefully someone at Canon will read this and help the many people who aren’t quite as fit and agile as they are.

  • I think the next camera, in addition to having an articulating screen, should also just take pictures for me. Bending down to look through a viewfinder is so 1990s, as is having to push a shutter button. And when are we getting 819,200 ISO? I just can’t work with 6400.

  • Nice one my friend. I truly hope you are never in a position to need one.

    Please don’t be so negative about them.

    1 – You do not need to fold them out if you don’t want to.

    2 – You can fold them face inward to protect them(yes I do know about screen protector film).

    3 – They are so useful when you get used to them. I managed to take a picture whilst just crouching down which a friend had to lie down in mud to get.

    If you’ve never tried one for a while, I really would recommend it.

    (also try pretending you can’t bend over, lie down then get up again and get in all the awkward ankles you manage to get in to take your pictures……then tell me it’s not the best thing invented)

    Please don’t get me wrong, I don’t want them on every DSLR, only one decent and reasonably priced model for those less fortunate and able.

    Thank you

  • Dream on moron. 24-70L costs more than the camera.

    8D is a face, two eyes and a mouth. Retards.

  • You are an idiot.

    Full frame isn’t for amateur like you, just because you have a camera doesn’t make you a photographer.

  • Canon sells more consumer cameras, because everyone has a powershot, so they assume that a canon dslr is the way to go. Unfortunately nikon makes better cameras at the moment.

  • Makes sense since this is a consumer model… wouldn’t make sense to have it on a pro model though.

  • Useless features:
    – Higher resolution on a tiny (3″) LCD
    Well. Higher resolution is better, I think. I would be happy with a 640×480 2.5″ LCD.

    – Adjustable frame rate
    What? Depends on what you mean. However, for me both (at video and photo) would be reasonable.

    – More megapixel. 10 to 12MP is more than enough for most.
    I totally agree.

    Useful features that could have been included:
    – Articulating LCD: it’s a must for videos, macro and event/theme park/parade/stadium/baby/… shots
    Yes! I would like it too. With a good mechanism and lets say a 2.5″ LCD ;).

    – Autofocus adjust
    I don’t need that.

    – Cross AF points at the sides. Just 2 more points on both sides is enough
    If more cross points than make all AF points cross type, please.

    – In-body IS – this will probably never come in a Canon body.
    I don’t need it and I think it’s a useless feature because there are stabilized lenses… I know… al the primes… well. ;)

  • Would be great. But I don’t think Canon will do that. I personally think they will stick to their 500D viewfinder…

  • Despite its flaws, the Sigma is said to get quite close to the 35L, and has a considerably lower price tag. Just give it a try. The more recent units are said to perform better than the earlier ones that were tested in different places on the web.

  • In some areas yes, in others they are at least on par, in others they don’t compete directly.
    The only thing that is really missing is something to counter the D700. While getting a bit long in the tooth, its still the only fast(!) affordable FF out there. If they do something 7Desque between the 5DII and the 1Ds series and have it ready before Nikon ships its D700 successor, they’ll have a winner.

    Of course Canon also needs the 1Ds IV soon, but it will be coming and it will be competitive, so no worries there.

  • So, after the latest rumor, details on the battery don’t count. :-)

    Give us something else.

  • Nobody denied the fact that canon “realised” they should stop sleeping on laurels of 40D and need to compete with nikon. but that happened “after” the release of D300.

    so nothing “revolutionary” here in DSLR world, as similar or better product was existing since 2007.

    May be 7D is a revolution in “Canon world”, but nothing in DSLR world.

  • who the hell you think you are? If Canon is not likely to fall apart(which is highly unlikely cause they are already majoring in so many market). u will be a jerk fool!!!

  • canon had to sacrifice 21mp just to avoid competing with D700. So unless nikon comes out with 18/20MP FF, canon will sit on 5D

  • Well, probably D90 revision would have 19 points AF with improved AF performance and FPS at $1000 price point. That would be fun.

  • The ownership and taking photographic images with a camera by definition makes you a photographer.

  • I can tell you than from using the 7d, the 60fps on the 720 video will likely produce very choppy playback on a PC (it will be fine on a TV). PC is where you archive and most commonly playback (and edit). I have a PC that is a few years old but has pretty fast processor and really good graphics card and 60fps still is choppy. You have to have at least a dual core processor at 2.6ghz or more and a good graphics card to make it look normal. It was do to that issue (and the large physical size of the 7d) that I decided to return it for a T1i. Another bad thing about T1i video is that there is no external mic jack, so you are stuck with in-camera audio (which is actually pretty good, but it would be nice to add a mic for certain applications).

  • I’m aware that some photographers, mainly wedding and action ones are shooting many pictures and they have no possibility to process their RAWs in real time. Good choice for them is 7D — two Digics IV have enough power for better processing of JPEG files. If you have analyzed the tests, the JPEGs from this camera are very good comparing to other cameras and RAWs are comparatively bad. I think that this properties are not accidental, because 7D is designed as action and wild nature camera. However, my point is that always your computer will be far ahead of the power of specialized RISC microprocessors, no matter how powerful they would be. Compare only clock frequencies. The heat dissipation from microprocessor(s) would be always a limiting factor. So be free to expect what you like, but…

  • My advice is to correct color temperature of the bulb. Depending of the power of the bulb, its properties and actual mains voltage, the WB would be too hard for camera to set. The same with candles. If you have possibility to set color temperature in camera use it and will see what difference 200’K can make. If not, use RAW — satisfaction guarantied. The same with snow shade – no camera would cope with correct snow shade as you see it. RAW can cope easily. But before you correct the color temperature first adjust contrast and curves so in brightest area the RGB values were above 240. Especially important is Green component because histogram of greens is very similar to luminosity one. Then adjust color temperature. Remove also chromatic aberration of your lens. Compare to JPEG from camera — shock!

  • Your implication is that getting correct white balance is tied to processor speed / ability. I do not believe this is the case. I have a 5 year old 5mp kodak camera that fits in my pocket that I cannot recall a single time it ever got the white balance substantially incorrect, unlike my Canon. If you go and read the reviews, they often say the same thing – Kodak cameras, from the tiny ones to the big ones, don’t have a problem getting normal white balance. I believe the Pentax K-7 has also gotten very favorable reviews regarding white balance (high iso performance is another story).

    If my camera from years ago that can fit in my pocket can get white balance right, there’s no reason why a large digital slr that costs 5 times as much cannot.

    And let me put this another way – when I apply noise reduction to a raw file, even though I have a brand new laptop with an i7 processor that I bought just about 2 months ago, it still takes 4-5 seconds for it do to the processing for a single photo. But when I use the little eyedropper tool to do white balance? Less than a second before it’s applied and I see the new picture. I just tried it.

    So I have to say, I do not think the issue is with processor speed or processing power whatsoever.

  • Yes, Nikon’s D90 is really top-of-the-class. I use a D60 borrowed from my school. It is not that bad… But Nikon cameras “fall” into your hands perefectly. Egronomics are superb. However Canon has a great advantage over DSLR-video technology which is a real selling point for amateurs like me! But they probably won’t let their Rebel’s have better video than the 5Dii or the 7D.

  • Actually I think Canon would be using either 15.1mps or higher! The rebel’s target buyers are those who might want video and more MP rather than noise management or magnesium alloy body.

  • Yes! Articulating screen would be a great selling point! If the new rebel has it, it would compete directly with the d5000 especially if it is more towards the D90 side rather than the d3000.

  • I’ve got one and love it, even on my 7D. Of course, pixel peeping at 200% will yield bad eyesight and loss of sharpness, but I get A3 sized prints no problem. And the lens feels miles better than the Canon 50mm f1.4 that I traded for it.

  • Agreed. Articulating screens are sometimes bulky. If they aren’t bulky… then they are flimsy and easy to break. Perhaps Canon will try to get better autofocus [!]as well as[!] better ISO management. Thats because articulating screen means using higher shutter speeds right… Especially in concerts, etc, where indoor shots are impossibly without maximum steadied heands…

  • Dear Canon,

    The photo enthusiast community would love to have both a 60D [please?] and a 540D. The 60D would need to be great and replace the 50D well, but lower the price of the 50Ds so that the 60D will slot in comfortably. Also, the 50D will gain lots of popularity if it is cheaper, as not many people in that category need video mode.

    As for the 540D, rebel users would like to have an articulating screen that is relatively strong and rugged, but not too bulky either! We would like to have it positioned between the 500D and the 50/60D as there is quite a gap between the two cameras. Canon-enthusiasts cannot boast to D90 users unless they have a 7D!

    My2CentsWorth,

    rsm870

  • Look at my previous postings concerning the release of the 70-200mm.

    This game is played by my rules, not yours!

  • Fact is that April 1st is a tuesday :), but no this will not be the date.

    Delivery dates are hard to give and depend highly on production schemes and shipping. I am not so much into that. I soley have to trust on what I see on a computer screen.
    Give or take it a week or two.

  • You should become a product manager :)
    But remember that Japan gives you their well sorted cards.

  • No product management for me please :D Im still a student in high school. I really hope that the t2i replacement will be good. Otherwise I’m getting a D7000… [replacement for D90 from Nikon]

  • Thanks for the insight. I have a dual-core at the moment overclocked to 3.3Ghz so I might be fine.

    And yeah external mic would be good but since I just do drum covers I use a whole mic set into a firewire interface so luckily that works well for me.

    I guess maybe articulating screen may entice me to sell mine and buy this….if the price is right :)

  • So do anyone have the idea of when is the release date??

    I m going for a dslr in a month…
    will prefer if it is T2i…

    if its 60D which will come, I dont suppose to wait for it…

  • Nvidia 9400m and above running on Snow Leopard should playback no problems depending on HDD throughput.

    Otherwise if it’s uncompressed editing you’d be better off with an uncompressed hardware card from AJA on the mac: http://www.aja.com/products/kona/kona-lhe-lh.php

    or Blackmagic on the PC: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/decklink/techspecs/

    Both of the hardware card solutions will require a fairly fast RAID array, at least 200MB/s (MegaBytes).

    If you have enough RAM you can cache the h.264 footage to it and playback will be fine as long as the Video card can display the frame rate, otherwise you’ll end up with tearing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing

    But the uncompressed solution is serious overkill unless you have to have perfect playback and need to output via SDI at the end.

  • Better primes. If you really had to ask, yes I shoot Canon.
    Canon zooms really got nothing on Nikon zooms, and Canon cameras
    at the moment are getting murdered. Pro-line anyways.

  • Consumer line has a better edge, but still losing against
    Nikon, all Canon has right now is pixel count, but IQ sucks.

  • No! I want few megapixels (if that improves ISO performance), video and Mg alloy body!!!

    But maybe, I’m not the typical Rebel buyer. ;)

  • With all due respect, I’m afraid some of you who hate articulating screen are having a bit of prejudice here. Just like the those who hate(d) video.
    The problem with your point is, to have the articulating screen (or video) you almost don’t have to sacrifice anything else technically (except for about one third of an inch of screen size). An articulating screen can be folded up to the body to become a fixed screen. Just like you don’t have to take video clips if you don’t want to. Videos, as well as articulating LCDs, don’t affect picture quality or any other functions of the camera. So having them is a plus.

  • Simple solution: turn of AWB! Choose the proper setting for the lighting condition. If you can’t get it right that way, choose Kelvin degrees. AWB is inconsistent and WB always changes from frame to frame. I would prefer all of my pictures be slightly off than all of them different. I will say that my 1D4 has the best AWB implementation I’ve seen, but for anything I might want to keep, I’ll still choose from the presets.

  • I’ve glanced this entire posting and saw no one comment about wanting full-manual control over video. That’s surprising!

    I bought a T1i a cpl of months ago and love it. It’s a wonderful camera. But right after I purchased it, I realized how great it would be if it had full manual control over video like the 7D and 5dII…

    I’d be kind of be bummed if it does though, since I just barely bought this one!!

  • Don’t worry. The 500d is a really outstanding camera and Canon is not [IMO] going to replace it anytime soon. The t2i will be places either below or above the 500d, but most probably above, since there is a big gap between the 500d and the 50d. 60d may come out soon or not, depending on where this camera is placed.

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