they have an f22 1200mm coming. it will be good for taking photos of the sun.I think I'll wait for the f/16 versions
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they have an f22 1200mm coming. it will be good for taking photos of the sun.I think I'll wait for the f/16 versions
As a bird photographer, with a 400 F4 DO II , 500 F5.6 PF and 600mm F4 lenses. I have absolutely NO interest in F11 lenses because of two things:
1. Shutter speed will be to low at F11, if you crank up ISO to 6400 you might get it up to be OK. As a reference I try to stay under ISO 400 and will in a very worst situation go up to ISO 800. We all know ISO performance has stalled with the sensors. The results will be too noisy images for me. I want faster shutter speeds for birds in flight, F11 wont cut it. F5.6 is on the border of being acceptable in this regard. I have to take off the Tele extender when to gets dark or in the winter here in the PNW These lenses will be sunny day in Florida lenses as far as I'm concerned.
2. No pleasing bokeh at F11.
These are consumer offerings, not for serious wildlife photographers, Safari? I doubt the weather sealing will hold up to it, Shorebirds in a distance? The atmospheric abberations will not be helpful at a distance no matter what lens. Morning shoot at Bosque sunrise? I'm having problems getting enough shutter speed with my F4 lenses.
The only highlight there is the small size and low weight, great for travel. Anyone want to travel right now?
Fascinating. Did not see these lenses coming. Curious to see how they perform. Canon full of surprises these days.
If Canon expects them to be used for video they'll need some sort of tripod mount. I guess clever folks could sort something out on their own.
Well at 40m distance DOF is 1.66m. 81cm in front and 85cm at the back. So I guess this could still render a nice blurred background. For 800mm lens.Not a lens to render smooth backgrounds tho for wildlife then.
Thanks for your compliments regarding the image. I definitely agree that this shot played to the strengths of what I had and is held up by elements that don't depend on having a low f-number (lighting and contrast being the two big ones), and with better gear I could have ended up with an even better image (at least better resolution). I think it may be premature to assert that these "scream amateur photog on safari", though. They certainly will appeal to amateurs in a way that 5-figure lenses don't, and they definitely won't be as well-built as 600mm f/4 or 800mm f/5.6 L glass. But until we see actual sample images and bench test results, the jury is still out on image quality. If they end up being reasonably sharp wide open, I think the size and weight could make them compelling tools for professionals in a number of situations.I take your point (and that's a lovely shot), but just as some folks are addicted to reach, others are to subject separation.
You very artfully worked the physics and background there. Not all folks have the proximity to subject or relatively friendly/distant background behind the subject. A larger max aperture lens would be a more powerful tool in that instance.
I just don't think an f/11 prime will be aimed at anyone who appreciates all of that. These lenses scream of amateur photog on safari... or possibly the traveling birder on a family trip who vowed not to bring the kitchen sink but still wanted absurd reach anyway.
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Yes I was looking at that. I don't see any obvious mounting points but they could be covered by that rubbery material. If it doesn't come with a hood it probably doesn't come with a tripod collar and I haven't seen that listed as an accessory. It wouldn't need to rotate for video but I expect it will somehow. i'm sure Canon has it sorted.There is some kind of bump on the bottom. It's too built up to be a normal panel for switches, and buttons/switches wouldn't be clocked at that location for convenient use while shooting.
Good money that's a feature for a support.
Your guess is as good as mine as to what form that takes. Could be a simple flat surface with a threaded hole, could be an arca plate (doubt it), or perhaps Canon has a card up its sleeve. That tapered ring closest to the mount likely is associated with extending the barrel at startup... but what if it is a friction ring working with the next section to the left (i.e. the tripod mounting block itself) to rotate freely? That would allow the camera body and all optical elements to rotate to portrait pretty easily. #aguycandream
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Or autofocus...From the other thread CR Guy just posted:
"Each of these teleconverters will be compatible with the RF 100-500mm f/4-7.1L IS USM, RF 600mm f/11 IS STM and RF 800mm f/11 IS STM."
Reach for the stars, people. Just don't ask for bokeh at the same time.
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Is the beginning of the end of the Big White?
I know since the 100-400 came out with it's excellent IQ and IS and good pairing with the 1.4x...... my 600 has seen little use... Specially given the cropability of the 5DSR.. This lens gives me a usable "effective" 100-800 range....
This just seems to be an extension of that same concept... smaller, lighter, more portable -- and most importantly... without giving up IQ...
Am I wrong?
I wish the 600mm was f8 for the extra stop of light and then the 1.4tc could be added for 840mm f11 with a shorter MFD than the 800mm f11.
There is a second photo that shows what appears to be a mounting hole. I suspect a optional foot might mount there. They are light, and with both in lens IS + IBIS, many may not need a tripod mount.There is some kind of bump on the bottom. It's too built up to be a normal panel for switches, and buttons/switches wouldn't be clocked at that location for convenient use while shooting.
Good money that's a feature for a support.
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Your guess is as good as mine as to what form that takes. Could be a simple flat surface with a threaded hole, could be an arca plate (doubt it), or perhaps Canon has a card up its sleeve. That tapered ring closest to the mount likely is associated with extending the barrel at startup... but what if it is a friction ring working with the next section to the left (i.e. the tripod mounting block itself) to rotate freely? That would allow the camera body and all optical elements to rotate to portrait pretty easily. #aguycandream
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Nice to see you back on the forum. Fully agree with you, it's quite interesting to see the direction Canon is going. When they innovate, they really go all out.Call this appeasement of the 'small and light' crowd if you will, but these smaller lenses are putting down quite a marker for those that want to do more with less size and weight.
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Good catch. It does look similar to 100-400 II foot.There is a second photo that shows what appears to be a mounting hole. I suspect a optional foot might mount there. They are light, and with both in lens IS + IBIS, many may not need a tripod mount.