Canon RF 24-105mm f/2.8L IS USM Z to be announced this week

[Dragon]

For some, it might be about getting another stop for low light or bokeh, but the difference from the f/1.8 isn't just about the size of the aperture. It's about aberration control and overall rendering, as well as weather sealing and a control ring. These are all reasons to want an L lens, which is partly what people want, obviously in addition to MOAR BOKEH. Personally I would be fine with f/1.4 but I want the improved optical quality that cannot be quantified with the focal ratio number, as well as weather sealing.

Yes, I get MOAR BOKEH, but for what use case? And as to weather sealing, you could burn through 5 or 6 of the f/1.8 lenses before you got to the price of an f/1.2. Yes, a 1.2 in the the vein of the 85mm would be sharper, but a tiny amount of post work will get you to almost the same place. The 85mm f/1.2 makes perfect sense for portrait work and therefore was one of the earliest of the RF lenses. I still haven't heard the use case for a very fast 35mm beyond "it would be cool and I want one".

 

[frankchn]

I wasn't even joking, Nikon have announced a 35mm f1,2 (Sept.28, The Camera Insider)

Well Nikon did release a roadmap, and it is their last un-released lens on the roadmap. We don't know the aperture or price or have photos of the lens or anything like that though.

 

[danfaz]

Really exceptional news
But owning the EF24-70 2.8, the RF24-105 4.0 as well as the RF28-70 2.0 it's hard to argue with my wife
With “Happy wife, happy life” in mind, I have to skip this beauty, even it will break the internet

Well, maybe sell off some of the redundant lenses.

 

[Foxdude]

Wow, this lens was surprise to me. I`m definitely not in market for this beast, but still it`s nice to see this kind on lens release. Not just doing ef-rf conversions, but to make something new and internet braking things, probably thanks to RF mount?

 

[roby17269]

I wasn't even joking, Nikon have announced a 35mm f1,2 (Sept.28, The Camera Insider)

I can't find it. I know it is rumored, but I cannot find the official announcement (I might have missed it, but, believe me, I do pay attention to these things...)

 

[KT]

I thought the whole purpose of the 24-105mm F4L is to have an all-in-one travel / walk around zoom with decent image quality. The current IBIS tech in mirrorless bodies makes the F4 more than adequate for a variety of light situation. If they make it F2.8 and double the weight/size, not to mention price, who is going to carry this around all day. It defeats the purpose of having a 24-105 zoom in the first place.

 

[Maximilian]

For sure I will like its optical performance But hate price and weight.

Somehow, I suppose I would want its IQ at f/4 in a 24-104/4 mkII

 

[Dragon]

I can't find it. I know it is rumored, but I cannot find the official announcement (I might have missed it, but, believe me, I do pay attention to these things...)

Not released, gut the article did say soon. https://www.thecamerainsider.com/2023/09/28/nikkor-35mm-f1-2-is-next . Notably, it will be the very last item on Nikon's road map (and no more public road maps for the future), so Canon holding off on this one is no surprise.

 

[danfaz]

who is going to carry this around all day. It defeats the purpose of having a 24-105 zoom in the first place.

I will.

An f/4 lens is certainly a walk-around lens.
f/2.8 makes for a compelling event/wedding, even portrait lens.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Could see it as a combo lens with the RF 100-300 mm f2.8

Definitely!

This will certainly be a very versatile lens. A 'standard zoom' sounds easy but I suppose if it really was, there would not be so many choices.

I started with an EF-S 17-55/2.8 on crop, moved to a 24-105/4L on FF then switched to the 24-70/2.8L II in part for the wider aperture and in part for better AF (more and more accurate AF points with an f/2.8 lens). When I bought the EOS R to try, I got the RF 24-105/4L as my only RF lens. Once I switched from the 1D X to the R3, I sold the EF 24-70/2.8 II but given that better AF was no longer a factor with f/2.8 lenses, I had trouble justifying the RF 24-70/2.8...so I got the RF 28-70/2 instead.

But the versatility of the 24-105mm range coupled with the faster aperture will be wonderful. I'll still keep the 24-105/4L, it will be used for travel.

Let me repeat...

 

[neuroanatomist]

There are use cases - for me, I often take photos at bday parties or rehearsals where my daughter is a guest / participant. Usually the venues have terrible lightning and cramped spaces. The 50/85 1.2 are great in terms of light collection ability but often too narrow. 35mm would be a more versatile fl.

Thus the RF 28-70/2.

 

[photographer]

Is this true or is it a tradition in the US to make Halloween jokes?

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

The post has been updated. "Z" is for powerZoom. Can't wait to see how that gets implemented.

 

[Dragon]

I thought the whole purpose of the 24-105mm F4L is to have an all-in-one travel / walk around zoom with decent image quality. The current IBIS tech in mirrorless bodies makes the F4 more than adequate for a variety of light situation. If they make it F2.8 and double the weight/size, not to mention price, who is going to carry this around all day. It defeats the purpose of having a 24-105 zoom in the first place.

Wedding photgs will snap it up in heartbeat, particularly if it has good Bokeh at f/2.8 and I suspect it will. For them it will be a big, impressive lens (important in that game) that will cover all the bases without having to swap glass midstream. For walk-around, I skipped the 24-105 and went with the 24-240 on the R5. It is very good from around 35-135 and quite usable at the ends and it is lightweight and focuses very quickly.

 

[roby17269]

Not released, gut the article did say soon. https://www.thecamerainsider.com/2023/09/28/nikkor-35mm-f1-2-is-next . Notably, it will be the very last item on Nikon's road map (and no more public road maps for the future), so Canon holding off on this one is no surprise.

OK so not announced yet.
Same as Canon in terms of photographers' ability to get one...
Of course they have a roadmap and Canon hasn't, so you could say Nikon photographers who want one can have a little more confidence than Canon ones

 

[roby17269]

Thus the RF 28-70/2.

Well almost but not quite. I still prefer to have the faster primes

 

[H. Jones]

It's funny that we were all discussing a RF 70-200 F/2.8 with internal zoom, and then Canon hits us with the 24-105mm F/2.8 internal zoom.

This is no doubt going to be a massive hit professionally, and I'm sure it will sell like crazy.

I can imagine this will be partnered up with a RF 70-200mm F/2.8 Z internal zoom lens, which I would bet would be about identical size to this, making them a great combo.

I don't personally see myself replacing my 24-70mm simply because I enjoy the smaller size for travel or everyday carry, and routinely shoot with two cameras anyway, but this will be huge for a lot of people. The biggest temptation for me would be the versatility of doing entire portrait sessions with one lens from environmentals at 24mm to headshots at 100mm f/2.8, but I almost always use my 35mm f/1.4 and 85mm F/1.4 anyway for portraits.

 

[clearwaterphotog]

Yes, I get MOAR BOKEH, but for what use case? And as to weather sealing, you could burn through 5 or 6 of the f/1.8 lenses before you got to the price of an f/1.2. Yes, a 1.2 in the the vein of the 85mm would be sharper, but a tiny amount of post work will get you to almost the same place. The 85mm f/1.2 makes perfect sense for portrait work and therefore was one of the earliest of the RF lenses. I still haven't heard the use case for a very fast 35mm beyond "it would be cool and I want one".

If my lens fails while I'm out in the field (often in places I'll probably never get to visit again), I don't care how many more I could buy and still be under the price of a more expensive lens. The goal is for my gear not to fail.

85mm is a fantastic focal length for portraits. It's not 35mm though. I doubt I need to explain all of the scenarios where a fairly wide FOV is preferable to a somewhat tight FOV. Not really sure what you're getting at.

 

[GMAX]

Well, maybe sell off some of the redundant lenses.

For me there is no redundancy between them. Each one has a special use case in my bag, this new guy is not able to replace.

 

[melgross]

Well Nikon did release a roadmap, and it is their last un-released lens on the roadmap. We don't know the aperture or price or have photos of the lens or anything like that though.

And supposedly, their last roadmap.