Tamron Adds to their RF Lineup With the 17-70mm f/2.8 Di III-A VC RXD for APS-C

17-70 1:2.8 Wow
Stabilized Wow
530 g versus 645 g (Canon EF-S 17-55)

Now I will spend a lot of time whenever going out: which lens to throw into the bag?
Sigma 18-50 1:2,8 (light)
Sigma 17-40 1:1.8 (bright)
Tamron 17-70 1:2.8 (reach)
 
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17-70 1:2.8 Wow
Stabilized Wow
530 g versus 645 g (Canon EF-S 17-55)
And even the price (MRSP) sounds fair!
Now I will spend a lot of time whenever going out: which lens to throw into the bag?
Sigma 18-50 1:2,8 (light)
Sigma 17-40 1:1.8 (bright)
Tamron 17-70 1:2.8 (reach)
Decisions, decisions... :ROFLMAO:
 
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This is really a big deal, providing it's optically sound. The lens that Canon should have made right off the bat really, but they seem to have no interest in providing reasonably high-end solutions for APS-C shooters. My friend has an R7 to replace one of her crop Nikon DSLR bodies that failed (after some 250,000 actuations), since Nikon doesn't even have anything close to the R7. I gave her my 18-150 to try, but she gave it back because it felt flimsy. She opted, instead, to get an adapter and use the EF-S 18-135 USM, which optically is pretty good and has the advantage of feeling quite sturdy. The USM is the last rendition of that focal length range, and is optically better than the first version.
 
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Where did you get the "schematic drawing" for last couple of lenses featured here? Previously, they looked real and made sense. Just look at this one: according to the illustration, all the lenses are positive, equally thick, equally spaced. Even my window panes show some variation. Is this AI slop?
 
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About lens image quality:
I looked at https://www.the-digital-picture.com for a comparison of the Tamron and the Sigma 18-50 C.
You can get one with the Sony Alpha 1 which I shared here with the link above.
My impression (17/18 - 50 mm):
Center sharpness quite equal
Sigma much better in the corners
Tamron significantly less vignetting.
YMMV
 
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Nice addition to the endless sea of options but special in the standard zoom category!

Just learning to like the EF-s 15-85 for time lapses after understanding how to optimize focusing (manually, after each change of focal length is important!). It is a very sharp and contrasty lens and allows to use a variable ND filter adapter which is very convenient for video.
Maybe a good option if I need constant aperture by design for video zoom ops so I will reevaluate the need - the EF-S 15-85 goes from 3.5 to 5.6!
 
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Long overdue, I’m still confused why this wasn’t Tamron first RF mount lens first since it has no true direct competitor from Sigma (the 18-50 trades stabilization and focal range for compactness). I no longer have interest in this lens since I have an R7 and Sigma 17-40mm f/1.8, but this will be a very compelling option for R100, R50/V, and R10 owners, especially those interested in handheld video.
 
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This is really a big deal, providing it's optically sound. The lens that Canon should have made right off the bat really, but they seem to have no interest in providing reasonably high-end solutions for APS-C shooters. My friend has an R7 to replace one of her crop Nikon DSLR bodies that failed (after some 250,000 actuations), since Nikon doesn't even have anything close to the R7. I gave her my 18-150 to try, but she gave it back because it felt flimsy. She opted, instead, to get an adapter and use the EF-S 18-135 USM, which optically is pretty good and has the advantage of feeling quite sturdy. The USM is the last rendition of that focal length range, and is optically better than the first version.
While it may look one way to customers, the reality is customers are surprisingly ignorant. (No offense intended to any readers) Most who shop at Target and buy an R100 don't really understand the difference between APS-C and Full Frame. So, it actually ends up being a point of frustration for many when they put an APS-C lens on a Full Frame camera and whoopsie... the Full Frame camera isn't working as expected!! That's why they didn't allow that on EF mount. It's never been about manipulating the market but rather protecting people's feelings. While customers naturally want specific lenses for APS-C, the actual unavoidable truth is that those lenses kind of suck because they can never cover a Full Frame sensor! There's no upgrade path path for an APS-C only lens. On the other hand, if customers buy an APS-C camera and a full frame lens... there is a clear upgrade path! That is the kindness of Canon at work.
 
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This is really a big deal, providing it's optically sound. The lens that Canon should have made right off the bat really, but they seem to have no interest in providing reasonably high-end solutions for APS-C shooters. My friend has an R7 to replace one of her crop Nikon DSLR bodies that failed (after some 250,000 actuations), since Nikon doesn't even have anything close to the R7. I gave her my 18-150 to try, but she gave it back because it felt flimsy. She opted, instead, to get an adapter and use the EF-S 18-135 USM, which optically is pretty good and has the advantage of feeling quite sturdy. The USM is the last rendition of that focal length range, and is optically better than the first version.
Theres just no business case for 1st party crop glass. We kind of saw this in the DSLR days. 3rd party brands were able to undercut 1st party brands on price by like 2/3rds. Partially prob due to accepting much lower margins, but also sheerly by economies of scale. Much easier to design and sell a low price low margin lens for 3-4 systems instead of 1. This is the path forward for crop systems.
 
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While it may look one way to customers, the reality is customers are surprisingly ignorant. (No offense intended to any readers) Most who shop at Target and buy an R100 don't really understand the difference between APS-C and Full Frame. So, it actually ends up being a point of frustration for many when they put an APS-C lens on a Full Frame camera and whoopsie... the Full Frame camera isn't working as expected!! That's why they didn't allow that on EF mount. It's never been about manipulating the market but rather protecting people's feelings. While customers naturally want specific lenses for APS-C, the actual unavoidable truth is that those lenses kind of suck because they can never cover a Full Frame sensor! There's no upgrade path path for an APS-C only lens. On the other hand, if customers buy an APS-C camera and a full frame lens... there is a clear upgrade path! That is the kindness of Canon at work.
The reason that the lens mount for EF-S (APS-C) lenses was not compatible with full frame bodies is that the EF-S lenses, especially the wider angle lenses, had a rearward lens element(s) that protruded into the mirror box. The mirror design in the crop camera bodies, starting with (I think) the 20D or maybe 30D had a design where the mirror would move rearward away from the rear of the lens as it flipped up to take the photograph. Full frame bodies had no such mechanism - a full frame mirror was larger and did not have an articulating mechanism to back the mirror out of the way of the extended protrusion of the EF-S lens.

I had a 10D - the EF-S lenses did not exist yet with that design but I had pretty good results with the Canon 17-40 f/4L lens. It gave great performance and also fit on full frame bodies.

The purpose of the rearward protruding lens elements was to improve optical performance at the very short (ultra-wide on full frame) focal lengths that were needed on the crop sensor. The original crop bodies were basically full frame designed bodies and lenses with cropped sensors, so the distance from the lens to the sensor was fairly long. Shortening that distance, even a few mm, helped optical performance without resorting to very expensive designs. And at the time, the full frame 17-40 was considerably more expensive than most any crop designed lenses that followed.
 
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