downward pressure on EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L pricing, Tamron's version tests well

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Re: downward pressure on EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L pricing, Tamron's version tests

dilbert said:
cliffwang said:
Tamron is more like all purpose workaround lens with very good, but not great IQ.

The center sharpness is outstanding with nearly every focal length and f-stop reaching well into the "excellent" category.

Aside from the "onion bokeh", this Tamron lens has better IQ than Canon's 24-105/f4 "L". And they're about the same price.

To put this in shopping terms, instead of buying the Canon, you buy the Tamron lens, get better IQ and an extra f-stop of light.

What's not to love about that?

Nothing. Only, if it would be "Canon" printed on it vs "Tamron" :)
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Now, PUT DOWN that stone...
 
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Re: downward pressure on EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L pricing, Tamron's version tests

cliffwang said:
Marsu42 said:
That's the reason why Canon probably didn't put IS in the 24-70ii - what's low shutter speed good for when for shooting people 1/100+ is required? IS is certainly nice and helps composition, but it doesn't freeze the world around you.

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For me Canon 24-70 MK2 and Tamron 24-70 VC are in different market.
MK2 is for kind PRO shooting for events and high speed.
Tamron is more like all purpose workaround lens with very good, but not great IQ.

Actually I am more interested in Tamron because I am not a PRO and shoot a lot photo for my family. VC is very important for me.

I'm not a PRO neither and don't do photo for living. I JUST enjoy the IQ on L lenses. I'm going for mrk II.
 
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Re: downward pressure on EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L pricing, Tamron's version tests

Z said:
when the answer is clearly this:

Marsu42 said:
what's low shutter speed good for when for shooting people 1/100+ is required?

If you have to rely on IS in the 24-70 focal length for shooting people, your shutter speed is far too slow for anything but artistic blurs.

I don't understand why people keep minimizing IS for not being able to freeze subject motion. I know IS can't freeze subject motion, but it sure helps to get more keepers in low light by reducing camera shake, especially at the 70mm end, which can mean the difference between either getting that magic moment (say a bride) or NOT getting it At All.
 
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drjlo said:
I know IS can't freeze subject motion, but it sure helps to get more keepers in low light by reducing camera shake, especially at the 70mm end

Nobody (I guess) disputes that having IS is better than not having IS given the same lens. But the main difference IS makes for me @70mm is that it reduces camera shake so I can place the af point better, but I still shoot at higher speeds for things that move at least a bit, i.e. not someone posing for the camera like in the good ol' days with a stick behind him to hold his neck.

It might be true that you get a *little* higher keeper rate with IS, but it is disputable if this is worth it esp. there are tradeoffs in iq or weight - Canon obviously didn't think so.
 
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Marsu42 said:
It might be true that you get a *little* higher keeper rate with IS, but it is disputable if this is worth it esp. there are tradeoffs in iq or weight - Canon obviously didn't think so.

I really don't get why Canon decided not to include IS on the 24-70 L 2 when they seem to be putting into the new wide primes.
I think I'd prefer my wide prime w-o IS more than a midrange zoom I may use in low light.
 
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corner performance seems to be an issue with the tamron lens - this can be expected looking at the mft charts and test charts at the-digital-picture confirm this - even though i'm not sure these are the final results. corner to corner performance of the canon mark I is better. corner performance of the canon mark II must be awesome - if the mft charts are for real.
 
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