Canon EOS M Vanishes from Canon USA Web Site

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<p>We were alerted to the fact that Canon USA has removed the EOS M camera from their web site. They still list two of the 3 EOS M lenses, but there doesn’t appear to be any reference at all to the EOS M camera.</p>
<p>Are we going to see a mirrorless from Canon back in North America? At this point, I wouldn’t think so. Unless they completely revamp the product concept, it seems to be a lame duck system for Canon shooters.</p>
<p>There’s the possibility we see an EF based mirrorless system, maybe an even smaller SL1 style DSLR. I love the SL1 and I think removing the prism and introducing a few more pancake style lenses with an EF mount would be welcomed.  I’m speculating, as I haven’t heard anything to actually support such a concept.</p>
<p>Or maybe Canon is going to concentrate on the prosumer level of cameras and lenses, as that appears to be where the money is for companies in this industry at this time.</p>
<p><em>thanks Tom</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[Dylan777]

40mm pancake is a great lens. I'm sure Canon shooters won't mind adding few more to their kit. UWA pancake - like 19mm would be awesome.

 

[rrcphoto]

meh. The EOS-M was replaced last December by the M2. this should be no surprise if canon USA doesn't have plans currently to distribute the EOS-M2.

CR .. you're mixing canon and canon usa up in this post / announcement quite a bit. canon USA doesn't have plans. canon as afar as we know are still going ahead with EOS-M. Huge difference.

it's also still listed on Canon Canada.

So perhaps change also your "north america" part too - unless there was a huge geopolitical change here after I went to bed last night.

 

[TrabimanUK]

Still listed on th UK Canon site...

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

After burning stock with insanely low prices, it seemed inevitable. I would love to mirrorless options fully compatible with EF / EF-S lenses.
Could be the size of the current SL1, or even lower, accompanied by new pancake lens EF-S, and would make great success.

 

[D.]

Bummer...I really like the EOS M despite its limitations. I was hoping ver. 3 would be released in the US with the 70D sensor, improved AF, EVF and some new lenses.

 

[c.d.embrey]

Hello Kitty Kameras don't sell well in the USA! There should have been a Pro M from the start. Canon could have given us an A6000, an X-Ti, a GH4, or an OM-D E-M1, but they choose not too.

I've been using Canon cameras/lenses for over twenty years -- but no more. Cameras are just tools, and for me, Canon doesn't make the best tools any more. I'm keeping my Full Frame Film Elan 7n, but all of the DSLRs have already left the building.

 

[rrcphoto]

Bummer...I really like the EOS M despite its limitations. I was hoping ver. 3 would be released in the US with the 70D sensor, improved AF, EVF and some new lenses.

it could be, but considering that M2 was released as regional only canon usa taking it down since it's no longer in production probably makes sense.

 

[dcm]

The M and all three lenses are still on the Canon site in Canada.

 

[Etienne]

I could go for a mirrorless FF, even with EF mount. There are already some nice little lenses: 24 2.8 IS, 28 2.8 IS, 35 f/2 IS, 40 2.8 pancake, 50 1.4, 85 1.8

OR bring on an EOS-M Pro , but don't compromise. Make it the best you can deliver, and price it accordingly

 

[weixing]

Hi,
IMHO, the only advantage of mirrorless camera is the smaller size. By decreasing the price of entry level DSLR, the entry level lenses, entry level full frame DSLR, making smaller DSLR and lenses and making good high end compact camera (G16 and G1X Mk2), I think Canon had successfully "limit" the grow of mirrorless market share... only those who want a mirrorless camera or those who really need a small interchangeable camera will go for the mirrorless camera now.

Just my $0.02.

Have a nice day.

 

[Etienne]

Hi,
IMHO, the only advantage of mirrorless camera is the smaller size. By decreasing the price of entry level DSLR, the entry level lenses, entry level full frame DSLR, making smaller DSLR and lenses and making good high end compact camera (G16 and G1X Mk2), I think Canon had successfully "limit" the grow of mirrorless market share... only those who want a mirrorless camera or those who really need a small interchangeable camera will go for the mirrorless camera now.

Just my $0.02.

Have a nice day.

Small size and weight can be really important, as long as ergonomics and IQ is still good.
In fact, size and weight are the only reasons I'm interested in mirrorless.

 

[bholliman]

This may or may not be the end of the EOS-M line for Canon USA, time will tell. Personally, I think its a great little complementary camera system, but Canon probably is losing money on every sale under $400.

I'm hoping Canon does continue to develop the M or another line of a really compact camera's with APS-C sensors. Whether the future design is mirrorless or a small DSLR similar to the SL1, I don't really care. I think there is a market for a small camera system that is compatible with Canon EF and EF-S lenses.

 

[Over40yearsofCanon]

Bummer...I really like the EOS M despite its limitations. I was hoping ver. 3 would be released in the US with the 70D sensor, improved AF, EVF and some new lenses.

+1 ^this
I've been holding off on a small mirrorless camera so I can use Canon's flash system, actually. I have several Canon wireless Speedlites that I distribute around a room when I have small indoor events, and they work very well for getting even light front-to-back throughout the room, but my SLR (5D+grip+L lenses) is large and heavy. The focussing speed is what lets me catch fleeting moments and expressions; sure the Rebels are smaller, but the prospect of phase-detect focussing speeds coupled with a smaller mount (and correspondingly smaller lenses, body, etc.) is very appealing. (Little cameras are much less intimidating and attention-getting, and tend to get more natural reactions, if they're noticed at all.) Add in an EF mount adapter (for occasional use) makes it much easier to stay in the Canon family. I've been visiting CR frequently largely on the hope of an imminent M3 announcement or even rumour. (That, and an old hope of the return of ECF... but that's another topic. :-\)

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Canon has made no secret of the poor mirrorless sales in the USA and Europe, and the likelihood that we will not be seeing them.

The sales figures seem to support this, mirrorless sales have dropped drastically in the USA and Europe, while holding up in Asia. Its expensive to stock and distribute a camera system, and when times are tough and dollars are tight, dropping poor selling products is going to happen.

This is no reflection on the camera itself, its just that American buyers have small cameras on their phone, and want something big to get professional images. Obviously, to those who are informed, that's not true, but the buyers dictate what sellers will offer.
I'd like to see a 5D MK IV with dual pixel sensor that is mirrorless, as long as its big and looks professional, it will sell.

The other thing that sells is a wide zoom. The SX50 is not only a good camera, but a huge profit maker for canon.

Because Americans have proven that they will pay for more, we might even see more mp in a camera. computers are now able to handle the load, but tablets and smartphones might have a issue with 200mb files.

 

[mvrbnsn]

I really like the M and wish Canon would continue it in the US. I'm not a pro, just an avid shooter; I love the size, form factor, light weight and touch screen.

As recently as yesterday a guy with a a large DSLR stopped me and commented on what a cool camera I had--noticing the size and the smaller lens, mentioned liking a lighter weight camera.

Maybe it will take a while to really catch on but I still think there is ongoing potential for the smaller high quality camera.

 

[Bob Howland]

CR .. you're mixing canon and canon usa up in this post / announcement quite a bit. canon USA doesn't have plans. canon as afar as we know are still going ahead with EOS-M. Huge difference.

OK, yet another wild guess. First, Canon USA does indeed have plans. They control the marketing of Canon products in the USA, which includes product positioning relative to their marketplace and setting prices. Effectively, they sit between Canon corporate and US customers. I've worked for multinationals. It is not a good idea to ignore the local marketing divisiions.

Consider the following possibility: (1) At long last, Canon USA has cleared the stockpiled inventory of M-bodies and kits. (2) Canon is planning their M-system "relaunch", whatever that means, in August, in time for Photokina. (3) To provide an M-system body for the next three months, they would have to import M2 bodies and kits, actions which incur substantial marketing and support costs. And, oh yes, they would have to charge prices that the US market finds unacceptable.

So what does Canon USA do? Exactly what it appear they have done. CR thinks (2) above won't happen. I think it will. We'll know soon enough.

 

[Quackator]

I'm pro, and initially skipped the M because of
the discrepancy of AF performance and price.

Now that it dropped so dramatically in price,
buying it was a no-brainer.

And wow - I can't remember having had so much
fun with a camera ever before.

Unless Canon really bogs it with a hypothetical M3,
I would be sure to buy it for any price within reason
or at least below 1000 dollars, body only.

And I would definitely buy a 55-250 IS STM in M mount.

Hear me, Canon?

 

[unadog]

Now that it dropped so dramatically in price,
buying it was a no-brainer.

And wow - I can't remember having had so much
fun with a camera ever before.

THIS!

I am a former pro, 30 years out from getting an undergraduate degree in Photography.

I bought 2 EOS M a couple of months ago. It is the first camera that I just pick up and play with every day in at least 10 years. It is just such a great little camera!

I am eagerly looking forward to an EOS M3 with Dual Pixel Auto Focus. I hope we get one soon, probably at Photokina?

The EOS M2 is $660 on eBay direct from Japan. I'd like to see the entry level EOS M at a bit less than that with the 18-55 kit, then I think it would be more of a success in the US. The NEX 6 looks like it is selling pretty well at $525 with the kit lens.

We will see!

 

[rrcphoto]

CR .. you're mixing canon and canon usa up in this post / announcement quite a bit. canon USA doesn't have plans. canon as afar as we know are still going ahead with EOS-M. Huge difference.

OK, yet another wild guess. First, Canon USA does indeed have plans. They control the marketing of Canon products in the USA, which includes product positioning relative to their marketplace and setting prices. Effectively, they sit between Canon corporate and US customers. I've worked for multinationals. It is not a good idea to ignore the local marketing divisiions.

agreed.

the way CR wrote this up though implies that what canon USA does directly impacts canon japan overall - or is canon japan.

The M is out of manufacturing, so it was a matter of time before it disappeared off the regional site lists.