Sony Claims Adapted Canon Lenses AF Nearly as Fast as on a Canon DSLR.

[Canon Rumors]

Sony Artisan Thibault Roland had a chance to interview a top engineer from the A7R II project at Sony. The interview is mostly a rehash of all the features in what appears to be a very good camera from Sony.</p>
<p>What’s interesting for Canon shooters, is that Sony is claiming that AF speed with a firmware updated <a href="http://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM4" target="_blank">Metabones Mark IV</a> and Canon lenses is almost as quick as a Canon lens on a Canon DSLR.</p>
<blockquote><p>We were confirmed that AF of Canon lenses was “much faster than before. With adapters (and in particular with a firmware updated Metabones Mark IV) Canon lenses are almost as fast as on a Canon body“.  <a href="https://thibaultroland.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/a7rii-insiders-information-from-top-sony-engineers/" target="_blank">Read the full interview</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Keep in mind that “AF speed” is different than “AF accuracy”, and we’ll have to wait and see how things work in the real world.</p>
<p>It almost feels like Sony has put some R&D dollars into getting Canon users to want to use the A7R II with their Canon lenses.</p>

 

[Dylan777]

If AF speed works as Sony claimed + accurate, A7rII will be great as smaller body for DSLR users. Especially Canon users with large numbers L lenses.

 

[geonix]

I've read similar statement on the dpreview site on the Sony A7R II. If true this should be another reason for canon to consider buying that sensor and building it into their upcoming DSLRs.

I think it is anyway only a matter of (a short) time, that metabones and other adapter manufactuers make up the AF disatvantages through technological evolution. So maybe metabones has already done it.

Perhaps there should be a 5D Mark IV R, a 5D Mark IV C and a 5D Mark IV S (for Sony-Sensor) ;D

 

[Chaitanya]

I smell lawsuit coming and a tasty fight between Sony and Canon over Ef mount and Af related patents.

 

[erjlphoto]

You guys had to go and wind up the Canon haters this early in the morning ?

 

[geonix]

I've read similar statement on the dpreview site on the Sony A7R II. If true this should be another reason for canon to consider buying that sensor and building it into their upcoming DSLRs.

I think it is anyway only a matter of (a short) time, that metabones and other adapter manufactuers make up the AF disatvantages through technological evolution. So maybe metabones has already done it.

Perhaps there should be a 5D Mark IV R, a 5D Mark IV C and a 5D Mark IV S (for Sony-Sensor) ;D

Although if Canon comes up with something own and equal or better to the Sony sensor I would be happy about it

 

[Luds34]

I smell lawsuit coming and a tasty fight between Sony and Canon over Ef mount and Af related patents.

Isn't the EF mount too old to still be protected by patents? And for general AF patents, I'm sure Sony has enough innovation in their portfolio to be protected. Otherwise I'm pretty sure they would have been sued by now if their on sensor AF was infringing on something big/protectable.

 

[geonix]

I smell lawsuit coming and a tasty fight between Sony and Canon over Ef mount and Af related patents.

Why between Canon and Sony? If at all, between Canon and Metabones

 

[optikus]

Good morning all,

I see the positive in this interview - if the facts can bee approved in the practical use it shows, that Sony has a serious look on the market and reacts, the short distance from mount to sensor opens a window for using a wide spectrum of lenses, even with the 5-axis-stabilized sensor, and if it comes true that A-mount-lenses, EF-lenses and other, non-AF-, lenses work properly with the system, the position of the Sony-lineup in the market sees a serious promotion compared to the competitors. I for me think about a Sony-body für using my manual fokus lenses, incompatible to the EF-mount for a better use of them without irreversible manipulation of the lenses - we will see what real use of the 'II' shows us.

J.

 

[m]

Sony bragging about the performance of third party lenses through a third party accessory is something I did not expect in the past. They really changed, for the better.

 

[Orangutan]

It almost feels like Sony has put some R&D dollars into getting Canon users to want to use the A7R II with their Canon lenses

That sounds good to me! This is clearly a step in the evolution of mirrorless.

 

[Woody]

I believe this claim. I paused for a while to consider if I want to get the A7RII. But in the end I abandoned the thought for the following reasons:
- EVF
- A7RII does not have a touchscreen; selection of AF point on mirrorless cams is a pain
- weight of A7RII + metabones adapter is more than the weight of 6D

 

[Gordonium]

I believe this claim. I paused for a while to consider if I want to get the A7RII. But in the end I abandoned the thought for the following reasons:
- EVF
- A7RII does not have a touchscreen; selection of AF point on mirrorless cams is a pain
- weight of A7RII + metabones adapter is more than the weight of 6D

Just my view
- I actually found EVF decent to use most of the time, and i heard the new one is even better
- fair enough
- A7RII is at least a 5Ds or D810 equivalent though not a 6D, which are all heavier cameras

 

[Dylan777]

I believe this claim. I paused for a while to consider if I want to get the A7RII. But in the end I abandoned the thought for the following reasons:
- EVF
- A7RII does not have a touchscreen; selection of AF point on mirrorless cams is a pain
- weight of A7RII + metabones adapter is more than the weight of 6D

Great point. I really like the size and weight a7, a7s and a7r.

Sony started to add more features into A7II & A7RII, size and weight become less attractive for mirrorless body.

 

[shutterlag]

This was EXACTLY what I've been waiting for. I'm selling my 6D and 7D and making the move. I'm tired of Canon and their total lack of innovation. The fact I can use my existing glass makes this so much easier.

 

[Gordonium]

Great point. I really like the size and weight a7, a7s and a7r.

Sony started to add more features into A7II & A7RII, size and weight become less attractive for mirrorless body.

I think sony is making the full frame E mount the full feature camera replacing A mount, and apsc E mount for the light weight option. (A6000 basically weights nothing)

 

[JohnDizzo15]

There have already been several sample videos on the Sony rumor site. Looks to be very snappy. But like others have said, no word yet on accuracy (especially in varying lighting conditions). Also, the sample videos are done using wide angle max 2.8 aperture lenses which is not exactly a torture test. I believe one is with the tamron 15-30 and the other with the 24/2.8. Exciting to see nonetheless. More excited to see it get into the real world to see how it really performs.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/canon-lens-owners-look-at-that-first-a7rii-autofocus-test-video-with-canon-mount-lens/

 

[Dylan777]

There have already been several sample videos on the Sony rumor site. Looks to be very snappy. But like others have said, no word yet on accuracy (especially in varying lighting conditions). Also, the sample videos are done using wide angle max 2.8 aperture lenses which is not exactly a torture test. I believe one is with the tamron 15-30 and the other with the 24/2.8. Exciting to see nonetheless. More excited to see it get into the real world to see how it really performs.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/canon-lens-owners-look-at-that-first-a7rii-autofocus-test-video-with-canon-mount-lens/

Put my pre-order @ 8AM westcoast. Received the email from BH, est. shipping date is July 28th.

Still waiting for the new Batis lenses to arrive

 

[bgran8]

This was EXACTLY what I've been waiting for. I'm selling my 6D and 7D and making the move. I'm tired of Canon and their total lack of innovation. The fact I can use my existing glass makes this so much easier.

+1,000

 

[JohnDizzo15]

Put my pre-order @ 8AM westcoast. Received the email from BH, est. shipping date is July 28th.

Still waiting for the new Batis lenses to arrive

Awesome. Will be waiting on your impressions.

I will continue to wait as I don't want to fall prey to the Sony Koolaid again like I did with the A7r1. If things prove to be legit this time, I will more than happily add it to the collection. But I still have my doubts as I have already tasted that flavor of koolaid before.