Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Coming in September [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-rebel-sl2-confirmed-in-2017-cr3/">reported back in February</a> that we’ll be seeing an EOS Rebel SL2 some time in 2017. We’re now being told to expect the camera to come in September of this year.</p>
<p>The new king of small DSLRs will apparently be slightly smaller and a bit lighter than the EOS Rebel SL1, which at the time of its launch was the smallest DSLR in the world.</p>
<p>We’re also told to expect a specifications list that is relatively similar to the Canon EOS 77D.</p>
<p>The next DSLR to be announced by Canon will be the EOS 6D Mark II some time in July.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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[Woody]

The new king of small DSLRs will apparently be slightly smaller and a bit lighter than the EOS Rebel SL1, which at the time of its launch was the smallest DSLR in the world.

We’re also told to expect a specifications list that is relatively similar to the Canon EOS 77D.

Very excited about this!!!

 

[Hector1970]

I liked the SL1.
I thought they were onto something there size wise but they seemed to move to mirror less to get the smallest APS-C camera. Could they get a full frame sensor into a body that size?

 

[rrcphoto]

I liked the SL1.
I thought they were onto something there size wise but they seemed to move to mirror less to get the smallest APS-C camera. Could they get a full frame sensor into a body that size?

yes, but not a full frame penta mirror or penta prism. it would have to be mirrorless.

 

[Sharlin]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

• 80D - biggest, most rugged build, best OVF
• 77D - smaller, lighter build, smaller viewfinder, some "prosumer" ergonomics
• 800D/T7i - identical to the 77D except with more beginner-oriented design
• 110D(?)/SL2 - maximally compact while still being SLR
• M5 - compact, pretty good ergonomics (many dials!), EVF
• M6 - maximally compact, same ergonomics as M5 sans EVF

 

[rrcphoto]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics

and size / weight.

 

[Sharlin]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics

and size / weight.

Definitely! I was thinking of ergonomics as including size/weight considerations, not just things like the number of dials or the size of the viewfinder image.

 

[LDS]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

And price

What's wrong? Some people choose a camera over another exactly for those reason. I'm going to buy an SL2 or M5, depending on what the SL2 actually offers - because my main need is a small, light ILC camera with an OVF/EVF, and they're within my acceptable price range. I'm not interested in the other models. But I guess they're appealing to many others.

 

[rrcphoto]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics

and size / weight.

Definitely! I was thinking of ergonomics as including size/weight considerations, not just things like the number of dials or the size of the viewfinder image.

very true. I always figure that size and weight define the ergonomics, VF, and build quality of the camera at least in canon land - they are pretty logical about it really.

 

[RandomRazr]

Is the 6D II, basically have dumb down features of the 5D IV?

Im not sure whether to wait or go for 5d IV.

my primary use is video with some photography on the side. going full frame as i want a nice built camera.

video wise is there much difference between 80d vs 5d IV asside from 4k?

 

[Sharlin]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

And price

What's wrong? Some people choose a camera over another exactly for those reason.

Price, yes, but the six bodies in question are actually not that differently priced. The difference between the 80D and the 800D is notable, of course, and not many people would wonder which one to buy, but between them there's the four other models.

Too many similar models is not always a good thing. It may present potential customers with too much choise, leading to analysis paralysis, and may signal that the company has no good idea of what kind of a product it wants to sell and is hedging its bets by trying a lot of things and seeing what sticks. See the difference between the iPhone and the Android ecosystem, for instance.

 

[NorbR]

Too many similar models is not always a good thing. It may present potential customers with too much choise, leading to analysis paralysis, and may signal that the company has no good idea of what kind of a product it wants to sell and is hedging its bets by trying a lot of things and seeing what sticks. See the difference between the iPhone and the Android ecosystem, for instance.

True. But on the other hand it also means that a lot of customers will end up hesitating between a Canon and a Canon. (And possibly a Canon.) I'm thinking Canon wouldn't mind that.

 

[LonelyBoy]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

• 80D - biggest, most rugged build, best OVF
• 77D - smaller, lighter build, smaller viewfinder, some "prosumer" ergonomics
• 800D/T7i - identical to the 77D except with more beginner-oriented design
• 110D(?)/SL2 - maximally compact while still being SLR
• M5 - compact, pretty good ergonomics (many dials!), EVF
• M6 - maximally compact, same ergonomics as M5 sans EVF

Of those it's really the 77D/T7i that seem redundant. The SL2 is (or will be; SL1 is) a great little travel/ in-the-car/ whatever body, while the 80D brings most of the prosumer features. The other two seem to be almost conjoined twins, and I'd have rather streamlined the SKUs there.

The M5 and M6 are wholly different to the SLRs, even if they share a sensor (or very similar sensor).

 

[Chaitanya]

Maybe Canon will finally implement their hybrid EVF/OVF patent with this camera. It wont be much of risk for them with camera of this segment to test water.

 

[rrcphoto]

Maybe Canon will finally implement their hybrid EVF/OVF patent with this camera. It wont be much of risk for them with camera of this segment to test water.

nope, for starters that uses a pentaprism and a secondary prism as well. no way that's going into an SL2 sized camera.

 

[rrcphoto]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

And price

What's wrong? Some people choose a camera over another exactly for those reason.

Price, yes, but the six bodies in question are actually not that differently priced. The difference between the 80D and the 800D is notable, of course, and not many people would wonder which one to buy, but between them there's the four other models.

Too many similar models is not always a good thing. It may present potential customers with too much choise, leading to analysis paralysis, and may signal that the company has no good idea of what kind of a product it wants to sell and is hedging its bets by trying a lot of things and seeing what sticks. See the difference between the iPhone and the Android ecosystem, for instance.

canon's been doing this for a ton of years I'm sure they have an idea what they are doing.

you're also forgetting that some cameras are more suited for some markets over others as well.

Look at it from the global perspective and it changes.

 

[rrcphoto]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

• 80D - biggest, most rugged build, best OVF
• 77D - smaller, lighter build, smaller viewfinder, some "prosumer" ergonomics
• 800D/T7i - identical to the 77D except with more beginner-oriented design
• 110D(?)/SL2 - maximally compact while still being SLR
• M5 - compact, pretty good ergonomics (many dials!), EVF
• M6 - maximally compact, same ergonomics as M5 sans EVF

you actually forgot one which is the T6

it really goes:

Mirrorless:
M10
M6
M5

SLR APS-C

SL2
1300D / T6
800D / T7i
77D
80D
7D Mark II

Full frame consumer / prosumer:

6D Mark II
5D Mark IV
5Ds / 5DsR

1DX Mark II

Alot of cameras, but canon sells globally. Sl2 / T6 sell huge to different markets as an example. Canon discounts the T6 down to around 250 bucks at times. SL2 sells better into Asia than it does with NA.

M10 the same, doesn't sell to NA, but sells and ships a batshi ton into Asia.

Can't look at these from a naval gazing perspective, because canon has to sell to all markets globally and each one has it's own quirks.

It's always amusing to me why people bemoan that canon can't do x, y, z. the problem is that they are being to all customers, globally - versus certainly the mirrorless companies that are just making products for a smaller segment of the market.

it's why canon's at nearly 50% of the ILC business, and the others are distant 2nd and 3rd choices.

 

[kiwiengr]

Back in February the rumour was a CR3 level, now only CR2? Good to see less certainty as time goes by.... ;D

 

[BillB]

Canon's lineup in that section of the product ladder starts getting awfully crowded. With major features almost identical, we have six bodies whose differences are mostly in ergonomics:

• 80D - biggest, most rugged build, best OVF
• 77D - smaller, lighter build, smaller viewfinder, some "prosumer" ergonomics
• 800D/T7i - identical to the 77D except with more beginner-oriented design
• 110D(?)/SL2 - maximally compact while still being SLR
• M5 - compact, pretty good ergonomics (many dials!), EVF
• M6 - maximally compact, same ergonomics as M5 sans EVF

And they all seem to have the same sensor, AF and chip. Doesn't really fit with notion that Canon cripples the cheapies to force buyers upmarket. Really hoping that Canon follows the same strategy with the 6DII, although the 5DIV AF is out of the question. But the 30mp sensor?? Seems pretty certain it will have the DIGIC 7 chip.

APS-C is ls the place that most people buy into the ES lens system, so that's where it all starts out for most of us. I don't how many dollars my EF lenses represents for me, and I don't want to add it up to find out, but it has been over a lot of years, so it likely would look better on a per year basis.

 

[KeithBreazeal]

I bought a SL1 to use for a pole cam and was surprised with it's IQ. The only negative I could find with the design was the mirror noise level. At least you know if the camera fired.
My wife borrowed mine for a trip and wound up buying her own. Light weight is the selling feature.