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*Official* What improvements do you LIKE MOST in the 5D III and 1D X?

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jrista

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I think its time to start a thread where people can talk about what they LIKE about the new cameras released by Canon. Lately, it seems there has been nothing but whining about one minor discrepancy or another, and all the GOOD stuff that Canon has packed into both the 5D III and the 1D X is being ignored and buried under too much complaining.

So, this is the OFFICIAL thread where you can come to chat about the things that you LIKE! The things that will make your life as a photographer, professional or otherwise, easier and more enjoyable, thanks to one of the huge number of improvements in these two cameras.

If you are hear to complain, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. There are a good dozen threads on this forum perfectly suited to those of you who wish to bitch and moan. THAT IS NOT WELCOME HERE!!!



Personally, I like the following:

1. The new 61pt AF system that has a whopping 41 cross type points, as well as no less than FIVE double-cross type points in the center (diagonal and standard cross types overlaid on top of each other.)
- As someone who does bird photography and wildlife photography, I would have been quite pleased to get something like the 7D's all cross-type 19pt AF system in the 5D III. I'm extremely happy to see Canon's best AF system in both the 1D X and 5D III.

2. The 100% CF viewfinder with transmissive LCD heads up display.
- I have this in the 7D, and its truly a beauty. Its great being able to change the grid display, or even disable it and just have a clean, empty viewfinder. The AF point display with the transmissive LCD is far nicer than it was before. All content on the transmissive LCD is semi translucent, so it never fully obstructs your view of your subjects...only augments it. Very glad this made its way into all of Canon's new cameras.

3. In the case of the 5D III, I'm happy they used 6fps rather than 4.5fps (as was rumored a few times.) Combined with 18 continuous RAW frames (which is actually more than the 7D which can do 15), this really makes the 5D III a solidly viable candidate for higher action photography, such as birds and wildlife.
- Frame rates much less than 5-6 per second make it difficult to capture enough shots such that you get a high enough percentage of keepers. Its not surprising Canon did not put in a higher frame rate, given what appears to be the 144mb/s maximum throughput for a single DIGIC5+, and 6 22mp frames per second comes out to around 135mb/s. I'm glad they pushed it as far as they could without increasing cost even more with a second DIGIC5+.

4. The noise characteristics of Canon's new sensors seem to have been significantly improved!
- Despite all the speculation about zero improvement in DR (which really only seems to apply at ISO 100, assuming its true), Canon has definitely improved the characteristics of their noise. There does not appear to be any more fixed-pattern noise at all, even at low ISO's in the shadows. There does appear to be some vertical banding, however in most of the sample shots so far, it doesn't really seem to be a problem. The bulk of noise, even at high ISO, appears to have far more pleasing and random characteristics than it did in the past. Even without improved DR, thats still a huge improvement over prior Canon sensors, and I'm pretty happy about that.

(Possibly more to come, not enough time to think of more.)
 
Like you said, the AF is great to have on both cameras (though it makes it harder for me to justify it to myself to buy the 1dx ;D)

I like the low light improvements. I am mostly want a 2nd body to my 7d for that reason alone.

The kid in me loves the idea of playing with the 14fps on the 1dx!
 
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I like the fact that Canon have listened to people's wishes and given us an improved 5D, without a hike in mp, included a headphone socket, quiet modes, etc. I also like the notion that because so many people are 'disappointed', there may be some left in the shops for the folks that really appreciate this camera to buy one. ;)
 
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I am excited about the same aspect you describe mostly jrista:

Better AF system
Better ISO performance
HDR capabilities (fun to try anyway)
Frame rate (in the case of the 5D mkIII)
Metering (in the case of the 1DX)

I actually think the last one, metering powered by a single Digit 4 processor is very underestimated by everyone. I think it will make for great improvement in difficult lighting situation...

Cant wait to get my 1DX!!!
 
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Spooky said:
I like the fact that Canon have listened to people's wishes and given us an improved 5D, without a hike in mp, included a headphone socket, quiet modes, etc. I also like the notion that because so many people are 'disappointed', there may be some left in the shops for the folks that really appreciate this camera to buy one. ;)

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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My shooting is a combination of landscape and wildlife mainly. If I was only shooting landscape, it probably wouldn't be worth me upgrading. However, it has now become useful as a general wildlife camera. In the past, I only switched to the MkII from the 7D for macro work and when the light levels dropped. Now however, the 61 point focus and tracking ability, would enable me to get better image quality for general use, then I can keep the 7D for when I'm focal length limited (which could actually be quite often) or I really need a fast frame rate (pretty rare and 6 fps is good for a number of situations). I also have had a project planned for a couple of years to photograph animals at dusk, so the improved low light capability will be invaluable. Up until the MkIII was released, I had been considering the 1D X, but I coudn't justify the cost, even though the weather proofing would be nice, now I think the 5D MKII will give me enough of what I need. Yes, the 1D X would be a step further, but not at the price differential. In addition, I had been considering a trip to Uganda, it fell through this year, but I had been worrying whether to take the 7D or the 5D. It would have been more wildlife than landscape photography, but the low light in the forest and the wider travel aspect would have favoured the 5D MkII, so I would have had to make a compromise somewhere, now that compromise is virtually non-existent, as it's a much better allrounder than the MkII or the 7D.
 
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I very excited about the AF, FPS, and ISO improvements to the 5DIII, which I will put to good use on very single shoot. The dual card slots and improved weather sealing are huge bonuses as well. The 5DIII does everything the 1DsIII did, and then some, for half the price, so I don't know why so many people are upset. Last I checked, the 5DII and 1DsIII were the gold standards for overall IQ, at least in the 35mm world. Now Canon releases a camera in the 5DIII that's better in every way, and all of a sudden is a pile of junk. Go figure.

I can't comment on the 1Dx, as I was never seriously considering buying one. I wonder how many people complaining about the 1Dx or 5DIII were actually going to buy one if they met their desired specs?
 
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JR said:
Metering (in the case of the 1DX)

I actually think the last one, metering powered by a single Digit 4 processor is very underestimated by everyone. I think it will make for great improvement in difficult lighting situation...

Cant wait to get my 1DX!!!

Aye!! That is really nice. I know its Canon playing catchup to Nikon, who has had their 91k 3D metering system for some time. That doesn't change the fact that its a very nice improvement to Canon cameras, though. I'm sure that will filter down to lesser models over time as well.
 
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For my weddings:
* Better low light focussing to -2EV, including that "exciting" double cross spot. I can't wait to see how accurate that is in practice.
* Dual card slots. Now I can worry less about a card going down.
* Flash in the viewfinder on achieving focus and silent shooting for shh...be quiet please photography
* Better weather sealing for those days when it's just not nice out. And that's a lot in the UK.
* 2/3rd stop better ISO. It means ISO6400 works for me when, before, it wouldn't. More importantly though it means that ISO3200 becomes like ISO1600 and my max ISO is normally 3200, so I'll have "clean" shots throughout the range.
* Better quality shadow noise.
* Auto ISO which, as some people have pointed out isn't perfect, will do a job for me.

It's all of the things I asked for. Realistically, it's all the camera I'll ever need for weddings. Thank you Canon! Now get my preorder to me ASAP ;)

Mainly though it's the focus system for me. Knowing the camera got it spot on will be fantastic. Sometimes it's just really really dark and achieving perfect focus on someones eye was not possible with the 5d2 without switching to a very fast prime.
 
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jrista said:
I think its time to start a thread where people can talk about what they LIKE about the new cameras released by Canon. Lately, it seems there has been nothing but whining about one minor discrepancy or another, and all the GOOD stuff that Canon has packed into both the 5D III and the 1D X is being ignored and buried under too much complaining.

So, this is the OFFICIAL thread where you can come to chat about the things that you LIKE! The things that will make your life as a photographer, professional or otherwise, easier and more enjoyable, thanks to one of the huge number of improvements in these two cameras.

If you are hear to complain, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. There are a good dozen threads on this forum perfectly suited to those of you who wish to bitch and moan. THAT IS NOT WELCOME HERE!!!

+ 1000000X
 
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In addition to all the goodies above....I like 5D III, AUTO ISO setting in "M" mode.

In "M" mode - i usually set the aperture & shutter speed and let the camera selects the ISO(I'm talking about 60D of course).

5D II has fixed ISO in "M" mode - at 400
 

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I like that the release of the 5D mkIII will reduce the cost of the 5D mkII.

Since I already have a 7D for reach, speed & AF, I think the 5D mkII is a nice compliment for more studio work, landscape & using my MF lenses!

I like to stay a generation behind since ALL these cameras are fantastic pieces of gear. I'll get the mkIII in 2015 when everyone is complaining about the mkIV :)
 
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I LOVE the new color-based iTR tracking of the 1d X. I also love the fact that it can now determine where in the image the lightsource is and compensate the af for that. The mkIV backfocused when a light source was behind the subject. It worked perfect on the X.

I also love that they have a motor dragging the mirror down again, this reduces mirror-flap and more and better light directly to the AF-sensor. I love the new AF all together, the new and smaller AF points makes for more precise AF, and further with spot-af, now finally with all lenses. Better spread and MUCH higher sensitivity.

BIG VF! New joystick in vertical position. front-buttons. The fact that it can take 400.000 cycles. I love me a camera I don't have to babysit, the new AF, the built, the new AE (to AF) link and system along with the tank-like body makes for a camera I can get on board with. I can show this camera a good time ;D
 
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I was hoping for a better AF system than the 5D2 and higher fps as my main desires. I feel Canon delivered big time although I liked the idea of 7 fps, 6 is just fine. I really like the added multiple exposure and expanded AE bracketing features as well as just about everything everyone else has mentioned. Oh, and the Q button. I had the Quick screen set to the set button on my 5D2. I like the dedicated button for that feature as well. Now all I need is to get this puppy in my hands!! The wait is keeling me!!
 
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JR said:
I am excited about the same aspect you describe mostly jrista:

Better AF system
Better ISO performance
HDR capabilities (fun to try anyway)
Frame rate (in the case of the 5D mkIII)
Metering (in the case of the 1DX)

I actually think the last one, metering powered by a single Digit 4 processor is very underestimated by everyone. I think it will make for great improvement in difficult lighting situation...

Cant wait to get my 1DX!!!

I totally agree with you about the metering. That's actually what made me buy a 1D X :)
 
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