5D Mk III Kit Lenses

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They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k
 
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dunkers said:
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k
I said in another post that I thought this combo would be $4999 - here's hoping :)
 
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dunkers said:
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k

True, but that would undermine Canon's pricing strategy of 2300 and 3500 for the lens and camera. Personally, I think both prices are too high. The 5DII should be closer the D800 price of 3000, the 24-70 should be under 2000. There is no reason why new Canon gear is so much more expensive than its Nikon counterparts.
 
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I am trying to decide between these two with the new 5D3. I have used a 17-55/2.8 Is on my 40D for years and have been waiting for the 5D3 to upgrade. I know the capabilities of the 24-105 and am wondering if going for the 24-70 without IS on a camera (5D3) that can obviously tolerate higher ISO would be the way to go.

I like the reach of the 24-105 and I dig the IS. I am often shooting at 1/15 of a second and the IS is a huge help in those situations, although that is on my 40D and I never go above ISO800 and even then I try to avoid it.

Any thoughts on this?
 
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Jamesy said:
I am trying to decide between these two with the new 5D3. I have used a 17-55/2.8 Is on my 40D for years and have been waiting for the 5D3 to upgrade. I know the capabilities of the 24-105 and am wondering if going for the 24-70 without IS on a camera (5D3) that can obviously tolerate higher ISO would be the way to go.

I like the reach of the 24-105 and I dig the IS. I am often shooting at 1/15 of a second and the IS is a huge help in those situations, although that is on my 40D and I never go above ISO800 and even then I try to avoid it.

Any thoughts on this?

Neither the 24-70 nor the 24-105 is going to be a great solution for shooting in very low light but the 24-70 would probably do better. The 24-105 is a a stop slower than the 17-55, so that would increase shutter time to 1/8s, which is VERY slow, and your keeper rate would be worse than with your current 17-55.

But FF cameras tend to have less noise than crop bodies. Assuming that the 5DIII's ISO 3200 performance is equivalent to the D40's ISO 800 (worst case), that would give you a respectable shutter speed of 1/60s for the 24-70 f/2.8 and 1/30s for the 24-105 f/4 with a couple stops of IS thrown in. So for static subjects, the 24-105 might do better and give you more flexibility with ISO, but I think I'd rather take my chances with the 24-70 at 1/60s because faster shutter speeds also reduce motion blur.

That said, you might consider getting the less expensive 24-105 (esp. in a kit) as a walkabout lens and then use the several hundred dollar difference for the 24-70 I or the over 1k difference for the 24-70 II to get a f/1.8 or f/1.4 or f/1.2 prime at the focal length you need. An f/1.4 lens would allow you to shoot at 1/60s at ISO 800 whereas the f/2.8 lens needed 1/15s. The DOF is different, but fast primes on a FF camera would give you the most options.
 
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jwong said:
dunkers said:
They'd sell so many kits if the 5dmk3 + 24-70 ii was priced at around $5k.

The D800 with the 24-70 is around that price, so I'd be very interested to see what Canon is gonna do. I would probably buy that kit in a heartbeat if it was around $5k

True, but that would undermine Canon's pricing strategy of 2300 and 3500 for the lens and camera. Personally, I think both prices are too high. The 5DII should be closer the D800 price of 3000, the 24-70 should be under 2000. There is no reason why new Canon gear is so much more expensive than its Nikon counterparts.


Agreed. its expensive.
 
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jwong said:
Jamesy said:
I am trying to decide between these two with the new 5D3. I have used a 17-55/2.8 Is on my 40D for years and have been waiting for the 5D3 to upgrade. I know the capabilities of the 24-105 and am wondering if going for the 24-70 without IS on a camera (5D3) that can obviously tolerate higher ISO would be the way to go.

I like the reach of the 24-105 and I dig the IS. I am often shooting at 1/15 of a second and the IS is a huge help in those situations, although that is on my 40D and I never go above ISO800 and even then I try to avoid it.

Any thoughts on this?

Neither the 24-70 nor the 24-105 is going to be a great solution for shooting in very low light but the 24-70 would probably do better. The 24-105 is a a stop slower than the 17-55, so that would increase shutter time to 1/8s, which is VERY slow, and your keeper rate would be worse than with your current 17-55.

But FF cameras tend to have less noise than crop bodies. Assuming that the 5DIII's ISO 3200 performance is equivalent to the D40's ISO 800 (worst case), that would give you a respectable shutter speed of 1/60s for the 24-70 f/2.8 and 1/30s for the 24-105 f/4 with a couple stops of IS thrown in. So for static subjects, the 24-105 might do better and give you more flexibility with ISO, but I think I'd rather take my chances with the 24-70 at 1/60s because faster shutter speeds also reduce motion blur.

That said, you might consider getting the less expensive 24-105 (esp. in a kit) as a walkabout lens and then use the several hundred dollar difference for the 24-70 I or the over 1k difference for the 24-70 II to get a f/1.8 or f/1.4 or f/1.2 prime at the focal length you need. An f/1.4 lens would allow you to shoot at 1/60s at ISO 800 whereas the f/2.8 lens needed 1/15s. The DOF is different, but fast primes on a FF camera would give you the most options.

Thanks for your insight. It looks like the only kit they released is the 24-205 so that makes my decision easier. I may end up picking up a 35L too - I have heard it is a fantastic lens.
 
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Jamesy said:
Thanks for your insight. It looks like the only kit they released is the 24-205 so that makes my decision easier. I may end up picking up a 35L too - I have heard it is a fantastic lens.

I have the 35L, and it's a very good lens. I use it indoors or when the light is low. It's AF works a lot better than the 50 f/1.4. I'm sure Canon will redesign it at some point, but the first version is very good already, and it's one of the least expensive fast primes, which makes it a great value.
 
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