A Brief 2013 Canon Roadmap [CR1]

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<p><strong>What’s in the pipeline

</strong>As always, things quiet down after an announcement. The two recently announced lenses seem to have generated quite a bit of talk, and that’s always good, even if a lot of it was negative towards the pricing. I hope to have both the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/898652-REG/Canon_6313b002_EF_24_70mm_f_4_0L_IS.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">EF 24-70 f/4L IS</a> and <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/898726-REG/Canon_5178b002_EF_35mm_f_2_0_IS.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">EF 35 f/2 IS</a> in the hands of our new reviewer sometime in December.</p>
<p><strong>EOS

</strong>Two new DSLRs will be coming in the first quarter of 2013. Most likely APS-C cameras. Definitely a Rebel and most likely one of the 70D or 7D Mark II.</p>
<p><strong>EOS-M

</strong>New lenses in Q1 of 2013 will be announced. Expect a fast prime and a telephoto lens. No mentions of a new EOS-M camera. We’re all hoping for a firmware update to improve the AF of the EOS-M.</p>
<p><strong>Cinema EOS

</strong>Going with some previous reports, we’re told that new Cinema EOS lenses will be announced by the end of January. No cameras are in the immediate pipeline. We’re still waiting for the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/855962-REG/Canon_EOS_1D_C_EOS_1D_C_4K_Cinema.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">EOS 1D C</a> to make it to market as well as the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/889545-REG/Canon_EOS_C100_EF_Cinema.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">EOS C100</a>.</p>
<p><strong>The Big Megapixel Camera

</strong>They’re out there, announcement is unknown. It is definitely 40+ mp and will be geared to studio and landscape photographers. Apparently there’s lots of new technology in this upcoming body.</p>
<p><strong>Same info received at [<a href="http://www.canonwatch.com/rumor-canons-2013-roadmap-lenses-new-rebel-eos-70d-high-res-dslr/" target="_blank">CW</a>]</strong></p>
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pakosouthpark said:
lol yeah new technology for canon, ancient for other brands..

Can you please enlighten us as to what might be ancient technology for you? Are you talking about medium format or Nikon's D800? If yes, what's your point? Canon has been told not to push the megapixels for years. Nikon has been told to do the exact opposite. Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base.
 
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Renzokuken said:
Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Yes, as far as I know sensor technology is from Sony. Nikon is limited to provide electronics and software in addition to Sony's sensor. That must be fairly limiting on a development side (i.e. not to be able to design/control the entire setup), but Nikon is still able to provide something good in this situation, which is quite impressive.
 
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AmbientLight said:
pakosouthpark said:
lol yeah new technology for canon, ancient for other brands..

Can you please enlighten us as to what might be ancient technology for you? Are you talking about medium format or Nikon's D800? If yes, what's your point? Canon has been told not to push the megapixels for years. Nikon has been told to do the exact opposite. Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base.


Canon pushed the APS to 18Mp years ago, they can expose a 18x24 cmos surface in one piece to an reasonable price=APS APS H
No, they have not the sensor tech and the know how to make a 24x36mm sensor with high resolution and with a modern lay out and to a competing low price.

"Both vendors reacted to the demands of their customer base"

What you base this statement on? People are asking after higher resolution from Canon and a 24x36mm sensor.

Et voi valehdella itseään loputtomiin
 
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AmbientLight said:
Renzokuken said:
Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Yes, as far as I know sensor technology is from Sony. Nikon is limited to provide electronics and software in addition to Sony's sensor. That must be fairly limiting on a development side (i.e. not to be able to design/control the entire setup), but Nikon is still able to provide something good in this situation, which is quite impressive.

Nikon works together with Renesas, Aptina and Sony, the Aptina sensor in Nikon J1, V1 has a QE who match the Sonys best column ADC sensors.
 
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AmbientLight said:
Renzokuken said:
Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Yes, as far as I know sensor technology is from Sony. Nikon is limited to provide electronics and software in addition to Sony's sensor. That must be fairly limiting on a development side (i.e. not to be able to design/control the entire setup), but Nikon is still able to provide something good in this situation, which is quite impressive.

For the Same sensor in Sony Cams and in Nikons... the Nikons seem to extract better DR and noise for the same analog sensor... Tells me Nikon's AD and amplification algo's are perhaps superior...

In some ways, Canon is like Intel... Nikon like AMD... AMD once beat Intel to the 1Ghz mark, caught it napping, because Intel was both arrogant and lazy... but then it came back with a Bang and AMD is still playing catch up after a decade... so there is precedence in the tech industry for catching up and reversing the lead. AMD is now slashing prices to make it's products interesting.... Nikon is already feeling the pressure and competatively pricing it's products trying to get back market share...

This year Nikon sensors have been good. Lets see what Canon brings to the table with the 0.18 uM process next year...
 
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K-amps said:
AmbientLight said:
Renzokuken said:
Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Yes, as far as I know sensor technology is from Sony. Nikon is limited to provide electronics and software in addition to Sony's sensor. That must be fairly limiting on a development side (i.e. not to be able to design/control the entire setup), but Nikon is still able to provide something good in this situation, which is quite impressive.

For the Same sensor in Sony Cams and in Nikons... the Nikons seem to extract better DR and noise for the same analog sensor... Tells me Nikon's AD and amplification algo's are perhaps superior...

In some ways, Canon is like Intel... Nikon like AMD... AMD once beat Intel to the 1Ghz mark, caught it napping, because Intel was both arrogant and lazy... but then it came back with a Bang and AMD is still playing catch up after a decade... so there is precedent in the tech industry for catching up and reversing the lead. AMD is now slashing prices to make it's products interesting.... Nikon is already feeling the pressure and competatively pricing it's products trying to get back market share...

This year Nikon sensors have been good. Lets see what Canon brings to the table with the 180uM process...

Pentax are using the same 16Mp as Nikon and K5 has a huge DR at base iso
Sony has "mirror less" cameras who are stealing lights and there can also be different CFA and micro lenses regardless if the "sensor" is the same.
 
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AdamJ said:
Please don't let this descend into yet another Canon sensor vs Nikon sensor debate. They've become boring and pointless.

How about the future of APS-H? Oh...wait... that's boring and pointless as well.

Will there be a 7DII? Super boring and super pointless.

In fact, I'm having a hard time coming up with a topic that hasn't been flogged to death on this forum.
 
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unfocused said:
AdamJ said:
Please don't let this descend into yet another Canon sensor vs Nikon sensor debate. They've become boring and pointless.

How about the future of APS-H? Oh...wait... that's boring and pointless as well.

Will there be a 7DII? Super boring and super pointless.

In fact, I'm having a hard time coming up with a topic that hasn't been flogged to death on this forum.

I know. Even the lens caps have been beaten into dust in these forums.
 
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