A Look at the RF 45mm f/1.2 STM, it seems compact.

I still use my EF 50mm f/1.2 quite frequently for stills, but for video with external mike the RF 45mm f/1.2 STM would be a nicely silent upgrade. Wide open, I would not expect this lens to be tack sharp in the corners, but hopefully it performs optically a tad better than the old EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, that was quite soft wide open.
Who needs sharp corners at F1.2? Stop with the pixel creeping! We need lenses that produce magic, not flat boring shots with sharp corners. This is a welcome addition that I would buy any day of the week instead of the overpriced fat RF 50mm F1.2.
 
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Btw one of my next purchases will be a good RF-Leica M39 thread mount adapter. The 20mm flange focal distance of the RF mount allows to adapt M39 lenses and keep infinity focusing, since that classic Leica mount has a flange focal distance of 28.8mm. I'd like to try some of my vintage M39 lenses on my R5 II, like my 1.4/50mm and 1.8/85mm from Canon (late lenses from Canon's rangefinder era). Adds a bit of radioactivity to my images ;) since the highly refractive lens parts were made of thoriated glass...
But do not buy any Leica lenses below 35 mm, unless tested. You will normally experience an ugly colour cast on both side of the pictures, and a huge loss of sharpness too. Even some older 35mm summicrons disappoint (around 1968). So, testing is highly recommended.
I'd also warmly recommend the Novoflex adapter.
PS: Some early 50mm summicrons also used thorium in their lens-glass formula...
 
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Btw one of my next purchases will be a good RF-Leica M39 thread mount adapter. The 20mm flange focal distance of the RF mount allows to adapt M39 lenses and keep infinity focusing, since that classic Leica mount has a flange focal distance of 28.8mm. I'd like to try some of my vintage M39 lenses on my R5 II, like my 1.4/50mm and 1.8/85mm from Canon (late lenses from Canon's rangefinder era). Adds a bit of radioactivity to my images ;) since the highly refractive lens parts were made of thoriated glass...
I have the KF M39 to RF adapter and I can confirm the Jupiter 50mm f/2 works great on a R6 ! Very small lens. It would give even the Devil himself a halo at f/2.
 
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But do not buy any Leica lenses below 35 mm, unless tested. You will normally experience an ugly colour cast on both side of the pictures, and a huge loss of sharpness too. Even some older 35mm summicrons disappoint (around 1968). So, testing is highly recommended.
I'd also warmly recommend the Novoflex adapter.
PS: Some early 50mm summicrons also used thorium in their lens-glass formula...
My experience with vintage thorium lenses that have yellowed is not a good one. I have found both a loss in light transmission and resolution as well as a colour cast.
 
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Who needs sharp corners at F1.2? Stop with the pixel creeping! We need lenses that produce magic, not flat boring shots with sharp corners. This is a welcome addition that I would buy any day of the week instead of the overpriced fat RF 50mm F1.2.
You dont need to pixel peep to see the issues with this lens. Busy bokeh, soft, hazy, high CA even stopped all the way down. A continuation of Canon's tradition of ........ I hate to say it......... mediocre affordable standard primes. There are cheap zooms that look better at the same apertures/FL than this prime.
 
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I have the KF M39 to RF adapter and I can confirm the Jupiter 50mm f/2 works great on a R6 ! Very small lens. It would give even the Devil himself a halo at f/2.
The reason why I purchased 2 Canon 7 bodies (one because a lens that interested my was part of the offering) when I returned to film photography parallel to digital photography was that I wanted to delve into the Leica M39 world with the most modern rangefinders ever made for that first 35mm standard mount. But I never made it to Soviet Jupiter lenses, this might be fun, too. I stuck with Canon glass from the late 1950s and 1960s because the best ones of these fast primes combine already quite modern sharpness in the center and good micro contrast with still a very nice vintage character. Canon's 18/85 mm in particular is a real gem and hunted by collectors (I am no collector, I want to use that vintage gear). I needed several years to get a good copy - good means to me: signs of wear are welcome but the optics and mechanics need to be in very good condition.
 
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My experience with vintage thorium lenses that have yellowed is not a good one. I have found both a loss in light transmission and resolution as well as a colour cast.
I think it depends on the grade of yellowing, of course it it is too strong it will interfere too much with the image quality. My lenses are still in a condition in which they can deliver beautiful images.
 
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But do not buy any Leica lenses below 35 mm, unless tested. You will normally experience an ugly colour cast on both side of the pictures, and a huge loss of sharpness too. Even some older 35mm summicrons disappoint (around 1968). So, testing is highly recommended.
I'd also warmly recommend the Novoflex adapter.
PS: Some early 50mm summicrons also used thorium in their lens-glass formula...
Luckily, I prefer normal to short tele focal lengths for settings in which I use these old lenses. That said, I got also a 2/35mm LTM lens introduced by Canon in 1963 (https://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/s41.html). This M39 lens has already a very modern character, with decent sharpness in the edges even wide open - and it is beautifully small and light. Of course, a copy in good condition isn't a bargain, if you are very lucky today you get one for about 400 US-$, preferably from Japan.
 
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Got the RF 45mm F1.2 last week. I had bought a used EF 50mm F1.2 a few weeks before the 45mm was announced (lucky me).

So I decided to do a bit of comparing the two. I used my R5 II (all in electronic shutter) fo comparing. Every time I try to do this, I gaine renewed respect for folks who do reviews online. Doing these comparisons is hard and labor intensive!!

My comparison is only loosely controlled and somewhat ad-hoc. However, for what it's worth, my overall feeling is:

- These lenses are much more similar than they are different.
- The RF 45mm F1.2 is sharper
- The EF 50mm F1.2 has smoother bokeh

The AF feels different, with the 50 feeling "EFy" and the 45mm "RFy". That is the EF sometimes feels a bit more jerky and the 45mm a bit smoother. However, in terms of focus speed and accuracy, I couldn't really identify one I'd say is better. I shot mostly static subjects, though.

In case someone is interested, here is a link to some CRAW files (44 images, 22 each lens with same settings, handheld approximate framing).


EF 50
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RF 45
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EF 50
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RF 45
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EF 50
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RF 45
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