A small walkabout lens - lay it on me!

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FunPhotons said:
  • Lens ideali around the size of the 50/1.4
  • Prime
  • Ideally wide, at least 24mm

Maybe the new 24IS? Dunno ...

The 35mm f/2 is a contender. Pros: good optics, very small. Con: old design, 5 blade aperture, noisy AF. Wide on full frame, normal length on crop (maybe you want wider).

I tried both this and the 28mm f/1.8. Didn't care much for the latter, was pretty bad wide open though got much better stopped down a bit.
 
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You mentioned that you got some sand in your 50/1.4. Had you tried to open it up and clean it out? I did the same thing to mine a few years ago, about 2 weeks after I bought it. I dropped it on the beach, and had that sickening feeling of picking it up out of the sand. There's a tutorial around somewhere that shows you how to do that when that exact lens. I just used a small screwdriver and my trusty Giotti blower. It worked great, and I haven't had any problems with it since then. Well, just problems related to operator error, but that's a different story...
 
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You mentioned that you got some sand in your 50/1.4. Had you tried to open it up and clean it out? I did the same thing to mine a few years ago, about 2 weeks after I bought it. I dropped it on the beach, and had that sickening feeling of picking it up out of the sand. There's a tutorial around somewhere that shows you how to do that when that exact lens. I just used a small screwdriver and my trusty Giotti blower. It worked great, and I haven't had any problems with it since then. Well, just problems related to operator error, but that's a different story...

Thanks for the tip, but it was just a few grains in the blowing wind at the beach. Darn lens wasn't out for more than a few minutes but that's all that it took. Ever since then I only buy weather sealed L lenses. Anyhow I cleared it out by turning upside down then jiggling and whatnot until it cleared. But now the motor is crap, it works, sort of, until it decides to freeze after a few minutes. Manually moving it around will get it to lock in again.

Anyhow I'm not sure what to do with the lens, delicate and IQ doesn't compare to my better lenses.
 
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elflord said:
FunPhotons said:
  • Lens ideali around the size of the 50/1.4
  • Prime
  • Ideally wide, at least 24mm

Maybe the new 24IS? Dunno ...

The 35mm f/2 is a contender. Pros: good optics, very small. Con: old design, 5 blade aperture, noisy AF. Wide on full frame, normal length on crop (maybe you want wider).

I tried both this and the 28mm f/1.8. Didn't care much for the latter, was pretty bad wide open though got much better stopped down a bit.

Yeah not sure I want to mess with those old designs, too much of a compromise. Plus 35mm is the beginning of the telephoto range for me, I like to shoot wide :)

Only exception is when I want a classical headshot.
 
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FunPhotons said:
Aieeee! Great help folks, thanks!

Mt. Spokane (my parents live in Spokane BTW, I visit there often) thanks for the info. I will definitely send this lens in for repair. I had thought it was much more expensive.

On the Voigtlander, I didn't know these lenses existed! The Voight 20mm looks like the bomb, my dream focal length! Pancake! A little slow and MF but I can deal with that.

How is it with a FF Canon 5D? My credit card is practically out on this one!!

EDIT: Or the zeiss 18mm! It's not too big, and close to my ideal focal length, thoughts on these two lenses?

PS. The Sigma 30mm isn't for FF.

Its a small world, Drop me a line next time you are planning to be in town. Have you lived in Spokane?

You might want to try youur hand at capturing some of those rolling hills of grain to the South. They are impressive in person, but I'm far from skilled enough to capture the feeling they give me.

I even went so far as to buy a new D800 with capturing wide angles in mind, I also need a wide lens. I was going to buy a 14-24mm, but I've found that many users can't easily get away from flare or distortions, so I'm still thinking about it. My vision is not good enough to manually focus, but pretty much everything in the distance will be in focus, its the foreground that I can't focus on manually.
 
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I have the canon 20mm 2.8 on my 50D and I love it. I picked it up used for a good price, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. Either way it's way sharper than my buddies 11-16 Tokina and my other buddies 10-22 canon lens. It's an amazing lens for people, but only if you get right up in their face. It's roughly equivalent to the 35 on a full frame.

Either way, I don't think wide angle lenses are good for walk around lenses. Anytime I go walk around I either take the 100-400 if I'm taking nature shots, or either the 50 1.8 or the 100 2.8 for general use. I find that the 50-100 range with a nice wide aperture are the best for just walking around. Your choice, but I don't see why you don't like the 50 1.4. My buddy has it and he loves it, and not to mention that he takes superb pics with it all the time.
 
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Maybe I am off base here, but if compact and light is what you want have you considered buying an APS-C body? A T2i plus the highly regarded 10-22mm would come in well under what you'd pay for the 24L f/1.4. The 10-22 is only 3.5in long and weighs 13 oz, not as light and compact as the 50 f/1.4 but the smaller lighter body should more than make up for it. I'm always amazed when I pick up my daughter's T3i how little there is to it compared to my 5D2. :)

The IQ of this combo should be pretty good as long as you are not looking for the speed and DOF of an f/1.4 lens. The Rebel doesn't have the low light and AF capabilities of your 5D2, but it has the same sensor as everything up to and including the 7D. The AF might not be an issue if you are using the camera for landscapes and street scenes. The flexibility of a zoom might be a plus for a walkaround lens. If not, the 14L f/2.8 is another option, but say goodbye to light and cheap. :eek:

Just a thought...
 
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Mt Spokane, Thanks, I surely will. No never lived there, but my sister and parents did/do live there. I like Spokane, very relaxed compared to California. Those grain fields are pretty wonderful. I can see a clear deep blue sky with polarizer, the grain and a disaffected woman in the foreground. Just an idea!

DigitalDivide, good ideas, but for me the issue is more the lens than the body. I'm happy with the 5DMKII and 50mm/1.4, if only my 50mm worked and I liked that focal length better.

wickidwombat, I'm feeling pretty sold on the 20mm. It is my souls focal length, the only issue is for $600 what else could I do with that? Maybe step it up and get the Zeiss 21mm?
 
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Voigtlander 20mm + canon t2i


 

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Check out the EF 28mm f/1.8 USM. It's obviously not as wide as 24mm, however it is small, light and fast. It also has the same feel as the EF 85mm f/1.8 (nice and solid), and is my go-to lens when I need something wider than 50mm. It's great for landscapes: the 7-blades make great sun-stars and it is quite resistant to lens flare.

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One drawback is shooting individuals close-up as heads tend to bulge out (see below), but it can be corrected with Photoshop (+1.25) or DXO Optics Pro. This shot was taken with only the sunlight coming in through the window, as she rolled across the floor.

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FunPhotons said:
My dream focal length is 20mm but Canon seemingly has no good primes in that range. I don't like to rent, I prefer buying and deciding as it takes me months to figure out a new lens. So ... recommendations?

  • Lens ideali around the size of the 50/1.4
  • Prime
  • Ideally wide, at least 24mm

Maybe the new 24IS? Dunno ...

Shorty forty?
 
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Wild said:
How about the old EF 24mm f/2.8? It's small, decently sharp, and reasonably priced. However, it doesn't have usm, so it's got noisy AF and it's built like the 50 1.8.

It's built like the 50 1.8? Do you own this lens? I did once, and its build is better than the 50 1.8.

I recommend the 24Lii, I have it and it is just awesome. They say the 24L is the wide 85L.
 
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