Canon Researching a 300mm f/2.0L and 200mm f/1.8L

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Looking at this patent application (2025-179579), there are a lot of designs in here that I found intriguing, but there are certainly two that reached out and smacked me across the side of the head, and that's a Canon RF 300mm f/2.0L IS and a 200mm f/1.8L. But this is one of those patents where […]

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I'm waiting for the 50-150mm f/2 for RF. Also I don't think they'll do a 300 f/2.8 just because they already have the 100-300 f/2.8, unless i suppose they want to do what sony did and have a very light 300 prime.
 
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I believe Canon could come up with a 300mm F2 lens, it would distinguish them from competitors and wouldn't cannibalise the 100-300mm lens. Personally, I´d wish for both lenses to become reality although I am not in the market for them. I´d rent them just for a fun weekend :)
 
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Exploreshootshare said:
I believe Canon could come up with a 300mm F2 lens, it would distinguish them from competitors and wouldn't cannibalise the 100-300mm lens. Personally, I´d wish for both lenses to become reality although I am not in the market for them. I´d rent them just for a fun weekend :)
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Canon had an EF 300/2 300/1.8 many years ago, but it wasn't sold to the general public. There are a few photos around online. Interesting lens. Nikon had a manual focus 300/2 which was also cool, but extremely heavy due to the all metal construction they were using at the time. Around 7.5kg, I think!! Considering we now have 600/4 lenses at 3kg, a 300/2 (same front element size) at around 2.8kg should be possible, and would be very usable.

But price... Price is the big question. Probably above the $15k of a 600/4L as it would be a very niche product. $18k or so would not be surprising to me.

Edit: The old EF lens was a 300/1.8, not a 300/2.
 
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Canon had an EF 300/2 many years ago, but it wasn't sold to the general public. There are a few photos around online. Interesting lens. Nikon had a manual focus 300/2 which was also cool, but extremely heavy due to the all metal construction they were using at the time. Around 7.5kg, I think!! Considering we now have 600/4 lenses at 3kg, a 300/2 (same front element size) at around 2.8kg should be possible, and would be very usable.

But price... Price is the big question. Probably above the $15k of a 600/4L as it would be a very niche product. $18k or so would not be surprising to me.
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It was even better tan 300mm f2, it was f1.8. The lens was used for photo finishes in horse races

See: https://petapixel.com/2017/04/27/canon-300mm-f1-8-yes-monster-lens-exists/
 
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I permanently check on Laowa's EF 200mm f/2 lens pricing, as their lenses are occasionally on massive sale, however, perhaps that particular lens is yet too new for that. The original RF Canon variant would likely be over $6K.
 
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The thought sounds yummy - nut expensive ;)
If affordable for my purse, the 300/2 would be more interesting to me.

But the comparison with the EF300/2.8 II is interesting.
Less elements = loss in IQ? Or did they manage to get something new to work?
 
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Bob Howland said:
Any word about a built-in TC plus taking an external 1.4X TC? Sigma made three generations of 120-300 f/2.8 zooms for DSLRs and I'm surprised they haven't made one for mirrorless cameras.
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I'm sure Sigma will bring something similar to mirrorless, it would pair well with their 300-600/4.

Unfortunately with both Canon and Nikon apparently terrified of Sigma, Sony limiting everything 3rd party to 15fps, and Panasonic still without tracking AF, there isn't any camera that can take full advantage of either lens. At least not yet.
 
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mimbu said:
I'm sure Sigma will bring something similar to mirrorless, it would pair well with their 300-600/4.

Unfortunately with both Canon and Nikon apparently terrified of Sigma, Sony limiting everything 3rd party to 15fps, and Panasonic still without tracking AF, there isn't any camera that can take full advantage of either lens. At least not yet.
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Wild guess: Sigma is more than "thinking" about introducing a professional L-mount camera. I think they are actively working on it and it'll (update: be FF, )cost about $3000, and have about 30MP and world class focusing. Will they also introduce a cheaper version with an APS-C sensor? Who knows but they should.
 
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A 300/2 would have tempted me pretty significantly when I was hoping for an RF 300/2.8. The level of temptation would much lower after the 100-300/2.8, which is a great lens. The patent example lens is about ~1 cm shorter than the RF 100-300 (and ~6 cm longer than the EF 300/2.8 II), but given that it would have the same front element diameter as the 600/4 it's going to be a bulky lens, though lighter.

The patent example 200/1.8 is about the same length as the EF 200/2, and would presumably be much lighter.
 
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I'm waiting for the 50-150mm f/2 for RF. Also I don't think they'll do a 300 f/2.8 just because they already have the 100-300 f/2.8, unless i suppose they want to do what sony did and have a very light 300 prime.
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I doubt there will be one of those. There might be (I hope) a 70-135 or 70-150 f/2.
I don't see overlapping two f/2 L zooms.
 
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Ozarker said:
I doubt there will be one of those. There might be (I hope) a 70-135 or 70-150 f/2.
I don't see overlapping two f/2 L zooms.
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That's what Sony does, if the range start at 70 make it up to 180mm. If it's start wider you can stop at 135 or 150mm.
I guess Sony offering starting at 50mm and Tamron 35mm forced Canon to change their plan.
 
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