Expected reception of the 7DII / 70D

How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially -

  • Trashed as not good enough an upgrade

    Votes: 17 33.3%

  • Sensor not good enough

    Votes: 11 21.6%

  • Too expensive to upgrade

    Votes: 18 35.3%

  • Not good enough autofocus

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Not comparable to some Nikon's offering

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • Total voters
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J.R.

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The wait for the 7DII / 70D reminds me of the building anticipation for the 5DIII. When launched, it was intially trashed by people (remember the thread "Is the 5D3 good at anything") and subsequently became everyone's (except 1DX users) favourite camera.

Do you think the 7DII / 70D will go the same route? What will be the criticisms?
 
#2
I think it'll be just a general bashing of the 7DII overall. I'm only expecting some upgrades to the mp count, fps and focus system. Personally I'm hanging out for it to be released to decide whether to upgrade my 600D to a current 7D or spend the extra $$ on a MkII.
 
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#3
As your question is
How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially:
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why are there no positive options? All those you have put up are negative.

I am hoping the 7D Mark II will be a pleasant surprise for everyone. If there was something likely to upset then it could be the price, but who knows, nobody even knows when it will be announced - never mind released.
 
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J.R. said:
Do you think the 7DII / 70D will go the same route? What will be the criticisms?
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Obviously you're trying to make the point that whatever Canon does, Canon haters won't like the 7d2/70d ...

... personally I'm convinced these will be very nice cameras (after all "even" my 60d is) but I expect them to be either very expensive (7d2) or depraved of "pro" or advanced features (70d). Imho Canon is not yet ready to turn around from their pro-oriented "double the price" strategy as recently seen with the 6d.
 
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expatinasia said:
As your question is
How do you expect the 7DII / 70D will be received initially:
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why are there no positive options? All those you have put up are negative.

I am hoping the 7D Mark II will be a pleasant surprise for everyone. If there was something likely to upset then it could be the price, but who knows, nobody even knows when it will be announced - never mind released.
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Over the past few years nobody has been happy with Canon's offerings when they are released. Boards are rife with complaints, whines and heartburn. I really don't expect too many favorable reviews "initially" partly because the wait has been too long and expectations are sky high!

I say "initially" because after the dust settles, people do upgrade and we start getting comments like - what a great camera!
 
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J.R. said:
I say "initially" because after the dust settles, people do upgrade and we start getting comments like - what a great camera!
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Of course, people always tend to see their purchases in a more forgiving light - after all you don't want to go on grumbling for years, just like any holiday was just great if talking to your friends even though a tornado hit your hotel.

And all current dslr cameras are very good and up to most tasks, starting from any Rebel 550d+ or 40d+ ... but even if I buy a 6d (which I'm most probably going to do) I'll still say that it is either under-speced or over-priced, just I like my 60d but have to state that cutting afma was idiotic and that the 18mp sensor is iso/shadow-noise limited in many situations.
 
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#8
Personally, I do not upgrade every model... I am happy with my 60D and get great pictures with it. I would rather buy glass than incremental improvement, better glass has benefitted me more than better sensors. If the 70D or 7Dii is worlds above the 60D I might consider it, but I will probably wait for the 80D or 7Diii. It is hard to see great improvement from one model to another but if you look back over several generations the improvements are obvious.
 
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#9
If it’s (Edit: 7D2) got the new sensor tech I think it will and should be welcomed with open arms, prices change, new manufacturing processes are really pinning your colours to the mast.
 
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#10
For its price, the 7D is a very well spec'd body already.
So, I don't think that Canon can change the specs too much - without also raising the 7DII price too much.

Thus, I predict that many will disappointed by the similar/same specs (same 19-point AF? wtf, I'm switching to Nikon :-*);

For me, though, the most important upgrade is the sensor.
If the 7DII sensor is really better than the 7D sensor (not like the 5DII -> 5DIII sensor 'upgrade'), I'll be very happy.
Even if the rest of the specs are the same.
 
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#12
There needs to be a option for exceeds expectations. I personally feel my two 7D's have been way better then anything I could have hoped for. I waited for the 5D Mark III before buying my first FF and I have to say it has blown my expectations away. Don't think that I would say Canon can do no wrong. I purchased the EOS M and sent it back as to me it was a peace of Sh*t. I have also don't think very highly of my 2 580EX Speedlights and can't wait to try the 600 I will be getting in a month.
 
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#14
I believe that the 7D Mark2 will receive the market priced at about 2500€ in Europe.
I velieve that there will be some improvements.
But I do not think that there will be some overwhelming improvements. There will - maybe - an new processor. Digic V. Maybe Dual Digi V. Better quality in Iso > 1600. less noise. More DR.
But I do no think that there will an big update on the AF.

I think that some of us are expecting an cropped 1Dx or 5D Mark III. We will see, if that comes true.

If the D400 from Nikon will be as good as the D800/600 as an crop model, Canon will have to do its best. Otherwise, there will be another gap opened.

And: Don´t forget all the new small pocket Cameras, that are nearly as good as the DSLRs. They will cut of the market of the DSLRs.
 
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#15
I love my 7D. I just wished that its autofocus was a bit faster and more precise in low light and that it did a better job at noise reduction. In my opinion, those are the areas that Canon really needs to work on if it intends to bring forth a successor to this camera.
 
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#16
The same way people have received the majority of Canon's offerings in the past year. People will read the specs and:

•First, scream and cry about the lack of megapixels and dynamic range.
•Then, complain about how it's far too expensive and that Sony and Nikon have xxx for $xxx less.
•Flood of posts from people complaining about how Canon is neglecting their customers because they personally wanted a 5D4 or 1DX2 instead of a 7D2.
•Then talk about all the stuff that they hope Canon addresses in a future firmware update.
•Then get antsy about pre-orders and shipping and create threads asking if anyone has gotten theirs in yet.
•Then when it takes a while, we'll get a flood of "I'm switching to Nikon" threat posts and demands that Canon fix their production lines (regardless of natural disasters).

Then when it finally comes out people will talk about how awesome it is and how much they love it, and how they never doubted Canon for a minute.
 
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#17
Really, no positive choices in the poll. My vote is that the 7D Mk II will be awesome, just like the 1D series is/was for full frame users. The way I look at it, you have to gauge the product with the times. In other words, throughout the last 20 odd years, Canon products were and are excellent tools for their time and have updgraded as time passed and technology permitted, albeit maybe too slow for some users and critics, but look on the sidelines of all professional sports and tell me what brand sticks out.
 
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