Newbie need help to pick a used camera please

[verysimplejason]

Those 3 cameras you mentioned just have the same IQ as the T3i. I'd rather buy a 5D and a 24-105L lens. But since you want video, then starting with the 50D sounds a little bit better if you are really not into sports. You can invest the 300bucks into a good landscape/video lens such as the new 10-18mm IS. If you are buying APS-C, don't forget to buy also the kit lens 18-55 IS (STM if possible) as they are light and a good value for money. It also has a very good IQ. Good luck with whatever your decision will be.

You forgot that 50D does not have video recording? :-X

It can have if you're willing to install ML but yes, you're right, not natively. I forgot about that because I'm thinking of my old 500D which I love so much. I wish I don't have to give that to my dad. I really miss it especially for macro work.

 

[SoullessPolack]

If your looking to shoot landscapes your looking at the completely wrong system.. I own Pro and Semi Pro DSLR from both Canon and Nikon.

my recommendations for a camera in your price range would be a refurbished D7100. the reason for this is simple, it has more pixels and it has a much larger dynamic range then any thing canon offers. It also lacks a AA filter which allows for more detail. the dynamic range is worlds better on Nikon cameras. I own a D7100 as a back up body. I bought it nikon refurbished for $850 at the end of last year. Its massively better than the 7D i used to own. that thing was horrible for landscapes as the dynamic range was very limited and you couldn't push the shadows at all with out seeing noise and vertical lines...

if you cant afford the D7100 the D7000 is also a nice camera which offers a huge improvement in dynamic range over the 7D at the cost of only 2mp 16vs 18 of the 7D. not a huge factor in my book.. the run around the $600 mark these days used. also both the d7100 and d7000 are superior in low light to the APSC canon bodies by about a full stop.

As someone who has also owned both system, I can say that you're grossly overstating the difference. Perhaps you don't know how to properly recover shadows, but the difference in dynamic range between the two is minimal. If the dynamic range of the 7D was not enough, neither would be the D7100's. You would be bracketing both cameras at that point. As I said, the difference is marginal, and is only visible if you are looking hard for it. Any viewer of your photographs, and one who is purposely searching for shadow noise (and almost no one does that without prompting of some sort), will only find the difference after careful inspection.

OP, don't let these internet sensationalists with heavy biases sway your opinion. BOTH are great cameras, and the major determining factor should be which system you have lenses for.

 

[sagittariansrock]

If your looking to shoot landscapes your looking at the completely wrong system.. I own Pro and Semi Pro DSLR from both Canon and Nikon.

my recommendations for a camera in your price range would be a refurbished D7100. the reason for this is simple, it has more pixels and it has a much larger dynamic range then any thing canon offers. It also lacks a AA filter which allows for more detail. the dynamic range is worlds better on Nikon cameras. I own a D7100 as a back up body. I bought it nikon refurbished for $850 at the end of last year. Its massively better than the 7D i used to own. that thing was horrible for landscapes as the dynamic range was very limited and you couldn't push the shadows at all with out seeing noise and vertical lines...

if you cant afford the D7100 the D7000 is also a nice camera which offers a huge improvement in dynamic range over the 7D at the cost of only 2mp 16vs 18 of the 7D. not a huge factor in my book.. the run around the $600 mark these days used. also both the d7100 and d7000 are superior in low light to the APSC canon bodies by about a full stop.

As someone who has also owned both system, I can say that you're grossly overstating the difference. Perhaps you don't know how to properly recover shadows, but the difference in dynamic range between the two is minimal. If the dynamic range of the 7D was not enough, neither would be the D7100's. You would be bracketing both cameras at that point. As I said, the difference is marginal, and is only visible if you are looking hard for it. Any viewer of your photographs, and one who is purposely searching for shadow noise (and almost no one does that without prompting of some sort), will only find the difference after careful inspection.

OP, don't let these internet sensationalists with heavy biases sway your opinion. BOTH are great cameras, and the major determining factor should be which system you have lenses for.

Yeah, this balanced view is more usual for people who have used both systems.
Nikon and Canon are both great systems, and they trade blows in different areas.
Having owned a 7D, I can say that ISO 1600 and above gets progressively difficult to use because of noise, and the files were inherently grainy, something I didn't notice with my 50D.

 

[Hillsilly]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the SL1. It's well priced and well specc'd. I know the OP doesn't like rebels, but it is a "cool" rebel and unless you're really into sports and/or wildlife or have some other special need, I don't see much point in spending money on anything else. After the rebate, you can get it for $447 with a Pixma Pro 100. Seriously, you'd go a second hand camera over that?

But if it was a choice of 50D vs 60D vs 7D, they're all fairly similar. I'd go the 60D and save some money.

 

[sdsr]

If your looking to shoot landscapes your looking at the completely wrong system.. I own Pro and Semi Pro DSLR from both Canon and Nikon.

my recommendations for a camera in your price range would be a refurbished D7100. the reason for this is simple, it has more pixels and it has a much larger dynamic range then any thing canon offers. It also lacks a AA filter which allows for more detail. the dynamic range is worlds better on Nikon cameras.

Well yes (leaving aside the exaggerations), but if you're going to suggest looking "outside the box" it's worth noting that a Sony a6000 is cheaper, smaller, lighter, probably has better IQ, being mirrorless avoids the need for the tiresome AFMA routine and offers focus points over most of the sensor and, perhaps more important than any of that, you can easily (unless you need fast AF) use any Canon lenses on it -something the OP wants to do, after all, and which you can't do on a Nikon ....