sunnyVan said:For some reason, lenses always look sexier with a little spray of water.
Hector1970 said:Thanks Dustin that was a sumptuous review.
It was like a food critic describing a beautiful meal in a Michelin starred restaurant.
The only problem is I don't get to taste the food.
I love the Digital Picture Reviews but yours are much more sensory and ethereal.
I'd love to try one out. I have the 50 1.2 and I find it a real hit and miss lens.
When it hits focus it's brilliant but I seem to have relatively alot of slightly out of focus or completely out of focus photos. I know 1.2 is razor thin but in a sequence of shots it can be in focus / out of focus.
Still when it nails it , its a great image.
I'd love to try something that's even better - I can't imagine it.
Can you put a focusing screen on a 5DSR ( I believe you can't on a 5DIII).
Keep up the good work.
photojoern.de said:Like the other Zeiss lenses, it doesn´t have Autofocus and it doesn´t have image stabilization. For this reason, I doubt that in real life in 90% of the situations your photos will be as good or better than with a stabilized AF lens. Non moving objects, non moving portrait at good light. That´s it. Landscape will probably be stopped down anyway, so bokeh is not an issue. Street: no AF and no IS is a killer, in my opinion. Did I miss anything?
Basil said:I have read reviews that suggest the IQ on the Sigma 50 1.4 ART is very very close to the much more expensive Zeiss Otus. Given that the Sigma is a bit less $$ and has AF, what would be the compelling reason to go with this non-AF lens for a little more than the Sigma? Serious question.
infared said:Great review of a stellar lens. I have a GREAT copy of the Sigma that is totally dialed in to my 5D3....so I am keeping that area of my quiver intact because of the IQ and the AF of the Sigma. ...but for some, the Zeiss water resistance, build quality, and rendering will be more attractive. To each his own. We do have great choices in lenses for the format though, and that is always a good thing! ;D
photojoern.de said:Like the other Zeiss lenses, it doesn´t have Autofocus and it doesn´t have image stabilization. For this reason, I doubt that in real life in 90% of the situations your photos will be as good or better than with a stabilized AF lens. Non moving objects, non moving portrait at good light. That´s it. Landscape will probably be stopped down anyway, so bokeh is not an issue. Street: no AF and no IS is a killer, in my opinion. Did I miss anything?
Probably not...for your shooting style. People have shot street for a long time without AF, so it is physically possibleFor me, however, I had no problem delivering images that I liked better than similar images taken with other AF lenses...but yes, I was a little more deliberate in acquiring them.
On that note, though, if you've never used a MF lens on a body with a decent precision matte focus screen, you will have a hard time knowing how much fun MF can be. Watching the plane of focus glide from one subject to another through the viewfinder at large apertures is about as much fun as you can have doing photography...and does wonders for your creativity.
photojoern.de said:Probably not...for your shooting style. People have shot street for a long time without AF, so it is physically possibleFor me, however, I had no problem delivering images that I liked better than similar images taken with other AF lenses...but yes, I was a little more deliberate in acquiring them.
On that note, though, if you've never used a MF lens on a body with a decent precision matte focus screen, you will have a hard time knowing how much fun MF can be. Watching the plane of focus glide from one subject to another through the viewfinder at large apertures is about as much fun as you can have doing photography...and does wonders for your creativity.
Well, I did use manual focus with Canone AE-1 and alikes for decades. And I am very happy that I have autofocus available now. Because a properly used AF will nail the focus much quicker and you will, consequently, be able to catch quickly vanishing moments where you otherwise would have been the decisive half a second too late.
You write "I had no problem delivering images that I liked better than similar images taken with other AF lenses". But I don´t still get it: which situations? Did you have a model that was not moving too quickly? That would probably the right situation for the lens.
I just don´t manage to come a conclusion: this lens is the ideal lens for situation x and y. It doesn´t look to be ideal for street, not for landscape. Potentially product, not sure. Portrait? Could be. But only limited, because you will use parts of your concentration and brainpower to focus, less on the model. I don´t get it. I do like Bokeh and open aperture. But why a manual focus might do wonders for my creativity - no, I certainly don´t get that.
gsealy said:Hector1970 said:It seems as though some people put upgraded focusing screens in the 5DIII, but it is not architected to do it like a 1D series is. So it is more difficult. Check on YouTube, there are some videos about it.
I purchased the Zeiss Milvus 50mm f/1.4 and for better use of the lens also purchased from http://www.focusingscreen.com/ a split-screen focus screen. They have clear instructions on how to replace the original (for my 7D non user replaceable) screen. Easy, takes only a few minutes, do not let this stop you!
And yes, not for all, but a great lens.
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:Basil said:I have read reviews that suggest the IQ on the Sigma 50 1.4 ART is very very close to the much more expensive Zeiss Otus. Given that the Sigma is a bit less $$ and has AF, what would be the compelling reason to go with this non-AF lens for a little more than the Sigma? Serious question.
If you get a dialed in copy of the Sigma (and there are people who say they have such an animal), it is an extremely sharp lens. It does not have the visual punch of the Otus, though (I compared them side by side). The Otus has better microcontrast, global contrast, and color rendition. The Sigma is a bit sharper than this Milvus wide open, but I like the overall drawing/look of the Milvus rendering more than any of the other 50mm options I've reviewed (more than 15).
Zeiss lenses aren't for everyone, but this one has a lot of character that will appeal to certain shooters and is worthy of consideration for anyone who isn't put off by MF.