Samsung RIP? / Who wants a 15 FPS, 4K mirrorless rig for a bargain?

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#1
http://photorumors.com/2015/11/11/samsung-nx1-discontinued-in-europe-hong-kong-and-australia/

The Samsung NX1 is not a lightweight product at all: 15 fps with AF, 4K video, etc.

This story speaks of NX1 being out of stock / production being ceased, but if the various country-level closings continue to spread, one would think there might be an epic firesale before too long.

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#2
Not an easy task to convince serious professionals to invest thousands of dollars on a camera system without a great line of lenses, flash and accessories. Sony lost a lot of money in the beginning of the Alpha DSLR line. All professionals (inexperienced) that used Sony Alpha in my town, have given up now.

If Sansung executives lose patience and decide they can no longer expect the market share planned, they can just leave the high end photo market.
 
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#5
I toyed with a samsung as my first DSLR, but they used the Pentax K mount then and were essentially rebranded Pentax's. But at a far keener price than the pentax's and far better value, on paper, than the canon 400D I ended up getting.

The Samsung mirrorless cameras were frustratingly good. Great IQ. The ifunction lenses were actually quite nice to use. Well reviewed. But a new mount / system without the kudos.

When folk knock the EOS M, I kind of shrug. It might not be 'all that', but it works with my Canon EF lenses...

Although I have a feeling I'm going to treat myself to a Panasonic G7 before too long.
 
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#8
Well that's a 180.
Samsung is supposed to be constantly undercutting and iterating, not bursting out and then abandoning new markets. I guess the high end photo market is too stiff for a helpless, insecure company like Samsung.

It's like they think they can enter a market that has roots going back half a century and take ground in a week. At least Sony is still trying after 10 years, and finally they're getting somewhere.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Not an easy task to convince serious professionals to invest thousands of dollars on a camera system without a great line of lenses, flash and accessories. Sony lost a lot of money in the beginning of the Alpha DSLR line. All professionals (inexperienced) that used Sony Alpha in my town, have given up now.

If Sansung executives lose patience and decide they can no longer expect the market share planned, they can just leave the high end photo market.
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I have little bit of Sony mirrorless gear. Hope not to end-up in the same road 8)
 
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Dylan777 said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
Not an easy task to convince serious professionals to invest thousands of dollars on a camera system without a great line of lenses, flash and accessories. Sony lost a lot of money in the beginning of the Alpha DSLR line. All professionals (inexperienced) that used Sony Alpha in my town, have given up now.

If Sansung executives lose patience and decide they can no longer expect the market share planned, they can just leave the high end photo market.
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I have little bit of Sony mirrorless gear. Hope not to end-up in the same road 8)
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Most photographers who pay their bills through the profit on your machine, you can not afford to invest in 2 (or 3) camera systems, lenses and accessories.

I understand the search for the "best" system, and Sony may be the best for some types of picture. But it would not be surprising if Sony abandons a market segment, as it has done repeatedly in the past.

If I was in your position, would save the Sony photos in TIFF, or other universal format. I would not want to doubt if in ten years the software will continue supporting RAW of a particular camera model.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Dylan777 said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
Not an easy task to convince serious professionals to invest thousands of dollars on a camera system without a great line of lenses, flash and accessories. Sony lost a lot of money in the beginning of the Alpha DSLR line. All professionals (inexperienced) that used Sony Alpha in my town, have given up now.

If Sansung executives lose patience and decide they can no longer expect the market share planned, they can just leave the high end photo market.
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I have little bit of Sony mirrorless gear. Hope not to end-up in the same road 8)
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Most photographers who pay their bills through the profit on your machine, you can not afford to invest in 2 (or 3) camera systems, lenses and accessories.

I understand the search for the "best" system, and Sony may be the best for some types of picture. But it would not be surprising if Sony abandons a market segment, as it has done repeatedly in the past.

If I was in your position, would save the Sony photos in TIFF, or other universal format. I would not want to doubt if in ten years the software will continue supporting RAW of a particular camera model.
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My #1 reason for photography is my kids. The more I shoot, the more I feel mirrorless fits my style. After getting into DSLR late in 2008 with a used combo 40d + 50f1.4, the beauty of shallow DOF really got me into 5D II, 5DIII and now 1Dx. In the past 7yrs, I went through many Canon legend L lenses - 50f1.2, 85L II, 135f2, 200f2, 400f2.8 etc....

I'm at the tipping point switching from DSLR to 100% mirrorless. Primary reason I'm still shooting with DSLR because FF mirrorless doesn't have native long fl f2.8 lenses yet. I didn't picked Sony for better sensor. I picked Sony A7 system because they are the ONLY camera company offers what I want and what I need - 35mm sensor in smaller and lighter body. This means a lot to me, I'm sure it also means a lot for some CR members here.

Wildlife shooters will cont. enjoy their big white(s) and stand by 1dx II and 5D4. As I recalled in some interviews, the big guy at Canon said they are serious about mirrorless. If you look at their recent releases, I really have nothing much to say ???
 
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jrista said:
I had read that Samsung was readying a replacement for the NX1, which was why stock was being closed out.
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If that's the case, then it can be taken as further evidence that they don't understand how to give purchasers confidence in buying into a premium system such as the NX1 and it's lenses. They're great at washing machines, TV's and tablets, but have a track record at leaving markets (e.g. the laptop market in Europe). Therefore rumours like this need to be quashed as early as possible.

Saying nothing to such rumours, coupled with their own website showing items either not available online anywhere or reduced by 50% is completely the wrong way to retain confidence in the system for existing owners or potential purchasers of a possible NX1 replacement.

Having said all that, I have zero regrets buying myself a Samsung fridge.
 
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#15
rs said:
jrista said:
I had read that Samsung was readying a replacement for the NX1, which was why stock was being closed out.
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If that's the case, then it can be taken as further evidence that they don't understand how to give purchasers confidence in buying into a premium system such as the NX1 and it's lenses. They're great at washing machines, TV's and tablets, but have a track record at leaving markets (e.g. the laptop market in Europe). Therefore rumours like this need to be quashed as early as possible.

Saying nothing to such rumours, coupled with their own website showing items either not available online anywhere or reduced by 50% is completely the wrong way to retain confidence in the system for existing owners or potential purchasers of a possible NX1 replacement.

Having said all that, I have zero regrets buying myself a Samsung fridge.
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Samsung is the honey badger of electronics business.

http://www.amazon.com/WHATONEARTH-Unisex-Adult-Honey-Badger-Shirt/dp/B00ESMUZ8I
 
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9VIII said:
Well that's a 180.
Samsung is supposed to be constantly undercutting and iterating, not bursting out and then abandoning new markets. I guess the high end photo market is too stiff for a helpless, insecure company like Samsung.

It's like they think they can enter a market that has roots going back half a century and take ground in a week. At least Sony is still trying after 10 years, and finally they're getting somewhere.
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Samsung has been shaking up the company and making changes and consolidating business units their imaging systems is a small unit and might just make phone sensors
 
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#18
jrista said:
I had read that Samsung was readying a replacement for the NX1, which was why stock was being closed out.
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That's the most likely correct answer.

The going out of business rumor is now a year old and still circulating as people rediscover it and bring it to the front. Samsung has denied it, but those who love intrigue keep repeating it.
 
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#19
Looks like almost everyone got it wrong. The latest update from the same rep is a total reverse, and is now on EOSHD forum. "Let
me rephrase what I've mentioned a while ago that we discontinued
manufacturing nx1 since we already producing a much better or upgraded
version, and it was developed by taking consideration some of the faults
or issue from the nx1 model."
So there is a new modeling coming out!

http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/9451-is-samsung-shutting-down-their-camera-business/?page=13#comment-122047
 
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#20
Except that the latest turn in the saga has the rumors being true after all. Supposedly they are taking a "time out" for 2016, which I imagine would be permanent, since they would have a tough time persuading anyone to buy their stuff afterwards.

I think if all this does turn out to be true all I can say is that the mind boggles at their marketing department and their idea of strategic planning.
 
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