From DPI
You can see a new preview of the 1D Mark IV. They have some 100% crop samples at various ISO ranges. I’m still waiting for some real photography samples from the camera at 6400 and up.
http://dpinterface.com/camera-reviews/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-preview/
Gallery of Images
http://dpinterface.com/review-galleries/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-preview-gallery/
ISO 12,800 looks grand to me. As most of you know though, I’m far less critical about noise than some. :)
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How about the photos in the DPI gallery at http://dpinterface.com/review-galleries/canon-eos-1d-mark-iv-preview-gallery/ ? They seem to be the best samples yet.
I personally wish we had more time for entries…
It was a very busy couple of weeks.
– Maybe next time could be bit longer period of time for entries?
Thank you VERY MUCH C.R. for all of this (site, forum, contest, all included. We know it takes LOT of time to keep on this running…)
So what’s the current thinking about new lens announcements? Just the Mark IV and nothing more for PhotoPlus EXPO?
102,400 should have never been there!
WTF is that?
Wow to 12800, just wow. Incredible quality.
While it’s great he has pics up couldn’t he have used a little better test subject (not including the ones at the end)
The books and bird and the guys head weren’t really good comparisons.
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It is a preproduction camera so we dont know if these are really representative of production cameras.
the 12k iso looks very nice with no banding! I might guess 2/3rds of a “stop”in noise over my 5dmk2 plus no banding!
56k looks like it would make useable 4x6s.
100k is pretty wrecked, but hey… its 100k iso….
Someone needs to take a picture with the 50 f/1 at 100k in ultra low light…
Claiming an ISO 102,400 was clearly a marketing department tick mark to put on the box. Awful example.
Is it just me or does the site doing the review look a bit, uhh, underwhelming, given the quality of their example images of (and to some extent with) the camera I have to convlude that they really don’t know what they’re doing…
The advantage of ISO 102,400 is that it would seem to indicate that the image quality for lower ISO’s, such as 12,800 or 6400 is usable.
Sure the image at ISO 102,400 has a ton of noise…but, one, it’s better than nothing if you really need it, and two, it means the whole ISO performance range has been improved.
Men who demand low noise at high ISO are girly men.
+1, how low can you go?
And the women?
If that is the case, then NDA must not allow them to publish any pictures
What?? Women can’t be photographers! Nao get back to the kitchen and make me a sammich, woman!
I’m very impressed with the images! 6400 and 12k are amazing! Now I’ll be able to shot indoor lightening anytime. To be able to just lock the camera on 3200 or 6400 and shoot with natural light! Fantastic. I’m super happy. Does anyone know if Nikon D3s shots look like this at similar ISO?
Oh my, but I’m a man… and I cook… what a confusing world we live in!!
D3s shots
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D3S/D3SA7.HTM
http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/340
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/lens_review/20091020_322884.html
i mean Nikon shots
Women have more important things to worry about, as do real men… but complaining about noise in “expanded” ISO settings … I’m going to stand by the Governator on this.
The Nikon D3s image quality at ISO 3200 6400 12800 etc etc etc is significantly better than the 1D Mark IV. Granted the pixel size on the D3s is roughly 40% smaller on the 1D Mark IV so you would expect to see less noise on the D3s simply because of that alone.
err I meant to say the pixel size on the D3s is nearly 40% larger than 1D Mark IV. It makes a noticeable difference. You wouldn’t expect the 1D Mark IV to out perform the D3s in terms of ISO quality due to this alone.
The gallery was removed.
The reason? The author says only: “I’m pretty sure experienced photographers/readers would know why”.
Fake Chuck said it best: http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/on-canon-taking-down-nocturne/
Good point. So as always one needs to just weigh all the pros and cons (ISO performance vs megapixels etc.) of any purchase and pick one that best suits the photographer. Similar advise can be said to the 1.3X crop whiners. If someone doesn’t want 1.3x crop, then clearly they’re not forced to buy it.
THanks, that was funny as hell
I’m going to assume Canon has asked the galleries to be pulled down since the sample images we are seeing thus far do not compare to the D3s. Really it’s Canon’s own fault for making it a 1.3 crop sensor. Had this been a full frame I’m willing to bet the quality would be really comparable.
So now when Nikon releases the Nikon D4 in Q1 or Q2 of next year you’ll expect Canon to trail in market share significantly. There are some reports already stating the Nikon D3/D3x now control as much as 63% of the market segment upon professional DSLR photographers.
I still don’t think Canon will have an answer for D3x and I am not even sure if the 1Ds Mark IV will be able to compete with it. All they are going to do is throw a 32 megapixel sensor on the 1Ds Mark IV and once again they market the camera as just being 32 megapixels instead of working on the quality aspect.
Just when Canon thinks they are ahead Nikon releases two new cameras that are better. The Nikon D4 and D4x will almost certainly be superior to the 1D Mark IV and 1Ds Mark IV.
The one question I have is if Canon will release a Canon 3D camera with similar specs to the 1D Mark IV, just in a full frame version.
I saw the images, and as amazing as they were, comparing to the D3s images in the same ISO range, the Nikon has a clear advantage.
A few years (maybe 4 or 6 only), Canon was ahead of the competition in the DSLR market, and it was not long ago that I read in a camera review site “that Canon was the indisputable king of low ISO image”. Maybe now it’s Nikon.
I will not change my lenses because of this, thought. The camera may not be the best of them all, but is still better than most. And in time, Canon will probably catch up, this things are ciclical.
I will not buy a 1DIV, not because it is not desirable, but because I am an amateur, and can’t justify such expense on a camera. Nikon may have better image quality, pixel peeping, but this seems to be the hell of a camera.
Only hope the focus really got better, ’cause the focus problem of the 1DMIII seems to have really screwd things up. And as a friend once joked, the focus of the D3 is amazing for a Nikon, it is just like the 1DMII…
It would seem that the ultra high ISO shots (> ISO 3200) were lacking when it came to the 1D4. I can’t see how this can be expected to improve dramatically in the next 2 months as full production cameras make their way out.
I’m led to wondering about whether the 1D4 release was timed a week after the Nikon D3s as a way of saying “don’t forget about us.”
I am curious about what the output of the sRAW (3.9MP) and mRAW (8.9MP) modes will be like when it comes to ISO > 3200.
But most of all, I get the feeling that this camera might be targeted to take some of the video production heat off the 5DMK2. It does 1080p video, in the various frame rates required and in addition, the 1.3x crop factor will change the depth of field (there have been comments that with the 5D2, the large f-stop lenses produce a depth of field that is too shallow on the 5D2.) Although it is almost twice the price of the 5D2, the differences might make that unimportant.
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