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From a Korean Web Site

Canon 7D?
Canon 7D?

I can't tell if it's real or fake. Photoshop gurus?

From: http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct&pag…..

*UPDATE* Best Buy Info
The information we posted previously from the Best Buy inventory system has proven to be true in regards to the PowerShot line. The S90 was not an obvious model name, so the 7D's chances of being real has gone up.

The information nailed the G11, SX20, SX120 and S90.

PowerShot Announcements Below!

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  • with such high res… it’s improbable to think that this is fake or photoshopped in any way…

  • Did the curves check – it looks GOOD.

    Also checked the “microphone holes” and they aren’t pure black, or even a consistent colour.

    I say – REAL.

  • Could well be real. And if so, it means 7D will come in as expected at the lower end, possibly as the end to the xxD series. Note the flash popup button and the fact that that body design (from what can be seen) has branding very similar to the way the 5D was designed.

  • Hope it’s real! I didn’t think the 7D would become a reality. Glad I was (probably) wrong.

  • Yeah, looks like they’re going to take xxD even more towards the casual shooter range and away from the semi-pro sport body it had been (IMO). Maybe we’ll see a 3D as well with the next 1D to fill the rung-down sport niche – it’d be a great way to go.

  • Pic of the direct print button or it doesn’t exist ;p

    Joking aside, this looks quite real to me. The Internet will melt down either ways.

  • Flash release / popup button to the left of the logo – identical to those on all xxD and xxxD bodies.

  • Looks like someone photoshopped that 7 in there. The black around 7 has different shade of black than the rest of the logo. Well at least on my iPhone it looks like it.

  • 7 seems a little above the D (not perfectly aligned?)
    so I dunno but it would be the first smart move in a while if it’s real.

  • There’s as much reflection on it as the D next to it, lighting angles are just inconvenient for feeling certain it couldn’t have been faked. At that, though, realize that the PS’er would’ve had to:
    1.) Modify an original 5D logo to make it a 7D.
    2.) Merge this with a xxD body in order to get the flash popup button.
    3.) Light everything to match.
    4.) Fake the EXIF to appear as if it’d never been in PS and was just taken a couple hours ago in Asia.

    Possible, yes, but far more effort than it would be worth to create something this good. Unless you just had nothing else to do.

  • What crappy weather sealing? Both the D300 & D700 have pop-up flashes and they’re better-built & -sealed than the 5D2, or even worse, the 50D. And the D300 even has the space for a 100%-coverage VF with it. j00=0wn3d

  • that’ll really be a shame if thats the case. I think I’ll go ahead and plastic cement all the gaps in the camera (including the microphone holes). honestly how much can it cost canon to weatherseal the things?

  • If Photoshop, very well done.
    BUT…. it looks like it has been used a lot.
    It tells also – it has a built-in Flash.
    If so, than it will be centainly a full frame camera, since Canon faced a bunch of critics that the 5d MarkII didn’t had a built-in flash – comparing with competitive camera’s (Sony, Nikon)

    Well the real announcement should soon happen just about half an hours driving from my home: in Amstelveen (The Netherlands), where almost all the Canon press releases comes from.

  • Quite a bit if they want to do it right, and it requires that the body be designed for it from the outset. We’ll see some innovation in this regard over the next couple years, but it’s anyone’s guess whether they designed this thing from the bottom up or if this is going to be a paniced offering to counter the a850 (say, cram a 5D/2 chip into a low-priced body).

  • Played around with it in PS looks good to me, way to much efford for a fake. The question is will we see it today?

  • @NL
    * Canon 7D
    * CMOS 12MPs Full Frame
    * Digic 4
    * Iso 100 – 25600
    * OLED 3.0″
    * 3.9fps
    * viewfinder 98%

  • How am I blathering about my iphone? I just said it looked photoshopped because of the different shade of black around the number 7. The reason why I said that is because the iphone screen is not calibrated, which may be the reason why the picture looked photoshopped to me. Everyone has iphone nowadays (at least where I live). If you haven’t gone outside in the past 2 years, you should try doing that so you can learn something new.

  • I could see them announcing this with the 1D Mark IV potentially if Canon wants to release more professional oriented gear later to slam any of Sony’s announcements at the end of the month

  • What makes me laugh, is to see all the so-called Photoshop experts here around.
    It was exactly the same situation when the first pictures of the 5D appeared on the web a few years ago. I’ve seen a lot of those “experts” explaining why it was a fake.

    And, finally, it was the real thing, taken from a leaked copy of the official brochure.

  • iPhone sucke. no pro-like-1-series AF. no direct print button. apple loosed on that one

  • If it’s a fake, I hope the person who did it is appreciated by his/her regular customers. Looks good by the numbers, still a little off to the naked eye. Could just be the harsh lighting.

    If it’s real…there’s more to a camera than a number…give me useful guts. Alas, I see a microphone. What buffoon decided to start this trend of putting a video camera in my cameras? What’s next, cell phones, gps, keyboard so I can check facebook….?

  • what the lens is it? looks liks a stabilized ef-s one, but the contours don’t match any real lens. a new ef-s lens to be released?

  • it’s funny how many people in the world right now know exactly what’s going on… yet we are none the wiser!
    That 7D does look real to me, if not, its a very very good photoshop, good enough to not really be worth doing. I just don’t think it will come today that’s all.

  • I agree it sure looks real to me, but I’m not sure how you are all jumping to the conculsion that it is FF? COULD be (and I have no idea) to the 1D as the 5D is to the 1Ds correct?

  • FAKE, look at the sharpening, trying to make some christmas effect to hide the truth it’s just a fake like we had for the 5D mark II during months…

  • i just was outside last week with my weather sealed 1ds. the iphont isnt waterproofed, and it’s no canon. so it’s literally off topic

  • Do it. Do it! And take a picture. Obviously not on your 60D or 7D because they don’t exist…

  • Nonetheless, the cameras released today more-or-less corroborate the Best Buy dude’s claims about what was in their inventory system. Let’s hope he was telling the truth and that there was really a 7D coming too!

  • It very well could be real…

    EXIF SubIFD @ Absolute 0x00000100
    Dir Length = 0x001E
    [ExposureTime ] = 10/80 s
    [FNumber ] = F4.0
    [ExposureProgram ] = Normal program
    [ISOSpeedRatings ] = 64
    [ExifVersion ] = 02.20
    [DateTimeOriginal ] = “2009:08:19 16:20:27”
    [DateTimeDigitized ] = “2009:08:19 16:20:27”
    [ComponentsConfiguration ] = [Y Cb Cr .]
    [CompressedBitsPerPixel ] = 8/1
    [ExposureBiasValue ] = 0.00 eV
    [MaxApertureValue ] = 48/16
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    [LightSource ] = unknown
    [Flash ] = Flash fired
    [FocalLength ] = 10 mm
    [MakerNote ] = @ 0x02BA
    [FlashPixVersion ] = 01.00
    [ColorSpace ] = sRGB
    [ExifImageWidth ] = 778
    [ExifImageHeight ] = 583
    [ExifInteroperabilityOffset ] = @ 0x08DA
    [FileSource ] = DSC
    [SceneType ] = A directly photographed image
    [CustomRendered ] = Normal process
    [ExposureMode ] = Auto exposure
    [WhiteBalance ] = Auto white balance
    [SceneCaptureType ] = Standard
    [Contrast ] = 0
    [Saturation ] = 0

    Signature: 01E4DEC5DF580F8461F51E4430A0C612
    Signature (Rotated): 01E4DEC5DF580F8461F51E4430A0C612
    File Offset: 0 bytes
    Chroma subsampling: 2×1
    EXIF Make/Model: OK [SONY] [DSC-H1]
    EXIF Makernotes: OK
    EXIF Software: NONE

    While the EXIF fields indicate original, no compression signatures in the current database were found matching this make/model.

  • how long will this pic stay up on the cr-website? any guesses? i’d say two more hours

  • In my opinion this is real. Or someone had a lot of time to fake it wery well. You can download the file and read thou the EXIF (or look below). NOTE THE PICTURE AQUISITION TIME. I’ve dowlnloaded it ca. 15:15 CET so the picture had to be done in far east (not surprising as the site is Korean). The camera has the flash button. Any ideas on FF in this regard?

    here comes the exif
    ImageDescription –
    Make – SONY
    Model – DSC-H1
    XResolution – 72
    YResolution – 72
    ResolutionUnit – Inch
    DateTime – 2009:08:19 16:20:27
    YCbCrPositioning – Co-Sited
    ExifOffset – 244
    ExposureTime – 1/8 seconds
    FNumber – 4.00
    ExposureProgram – Normal program
    ISOSpeedRatings – 64
    ExifVersion – 0220
    DateTimeOriginal – 2009:08:19 16:20:27
    DateTimeDigitized – 2009:08:19 16:20:27
    ComponentsConfiguration – YCbCr
    CompressedBitsPerPixel – 8 (bits/pixel)
    ExposureBiasValue – 0.00
    MaxApertureValue – F 2.83
    MeteringMode – Multi-segment
    LightSource – Auto
    Flash – Flash fired, compulsory flash mode
    FocalLength – 10.00 mm
    FlashPixVersion – 0100
    ColorSpace – sRGB
    ExifImageWidth – 778
    ExifImageHeight – 583
    InteroperabilityOffset – 2266
    FileSource – DSC – Digital still camera
    SceneType – A directly photographed image
    CustomRendered – Normal process
    ExposureMode – Auto
    White Balance – Auto
    SceneCaptureType – Standard
    Contrast – Normal
    Saturation – Normal
    Sharpness – Normal

    Maker Note (Vendor): –

    Thumbnail: –
    Compression – 6 (JPG)
    Make – SONY
    Model – DSC-H1
    Orientation – Top left
    XResolution – 72
    YResolution – 72
    ResolutionUnit – Inch
    JpegIFOffset – 2440
    JpegIFByteCount – 8192

  • My 20D has been through rain forests and torrential downpours, and with a little basic care I have never had a problem with the weather sealing. Not a big issue for me.

  • Oh the pain of waiting is excruciating

    I hope the price of the 7D will be reasonable,
    just hope my wait for an upgrade is worth it

  • probably fake…. from upside looks similar with the good old 5D… (look at the dial: auto, P, Tv, Av, B, M, C)

  • Yup, fake ! it is the exact form of the 5D, no video nor flash.

    The first pic seems more interesting.

    Fingers crossed.

  • Only problem with that box is that I can’t see the lines that would make up the pop-up flash that is suggested by the earlier picture.

  • i think this is the same “fake” photo of the “7D” box that was posted here previously. if you read the comments in korean, they call it out that the photo is a fake and the op admits that he was just playing around and posted a picture he found on the internet. unfortunately, this won’t provide any more info about the 7D…

  • I don’t know I lived in Korea for three years and I remember both the 50D and the 5D Mark II having leaked photos before they were released. Again, they didn’t last long on the site, it looks like slrclub.com was testing adds that would eventually go up full time once the cameras were released.

  • 3.9fps? No thanks. I’d rather the D300. When are Canon going to make a camera to compete with the D300? Fast camera with good quality at high ISO. Is it really too much to ask?

  • It has a pop-up flash button, so it is not the exact same form as the 5D. More like an xxD body.

    Still think it is fake though.

  • Whoo hooooooo

    A nice talking printer! And yes, because of all the received feedback showed us it’s a key feature: There’s direct print too!

    You even can make voicecall to start it! Isn’t that cool?

    I am really really so happy right now !!!!!!!

  • So far the Best Buy rumor has been correct therefore the 7D should be shipping with an EF 28-135 and not the 24-105.

  • Dear CR Guy,

    There’s a lot of talking about useless P&S shizzle and usefull DSLR’s, but is there any information about lenses that are really needed in the Canon Community, like:

    Canon EF 35 1.8 USM (replacement of 35 2.0)
    Canon EF 50 1.4 USM II (ring-USM)
    Canon EF 100 2.8 Macro IS USM (Hybrid IS thing)
    Canon EF 200 2.8 Macro L IS USM (replacement of the 180 3.5 and the 200 2.8)
    Canon EF-s 17-85 f/4 IS USM (replacement of the 17-85, which had bad reviews)

    ?

    I will buy them all!!

  • according to my canon service point’s boss, there will be NO 7d, but next month a D4 with video.

  • Hoping it would be a new version of this lens ! It has been such a long time Canon did not renew its medium EF lenses !

    This kit could be explained by the price of the 7D which should be less expensive than 5D and by the fact that 7D is FF so it can not be sold with 17-85.

  • Nobody wants a 7D. If Canon can’t make a camera to compete with the 300D then there is no point in carrying on. What we all need is a fast camera (8fps like the D300) that can match the D300 at high iso settings. Is that too much to ask? Who cares about another FF 3.9fps camera? Save up and buy the 5D instead if you like the sound of that so much. Canon have until the first week of September to meet my demands or I will walk into the first store I see and purchase a D300 and will auction off all my Canon gear and never come back again.

  • At first glance (looking at the thumbnail) I say it is fake. However after looking at the bigger image I would venture to say it is real. I am pretty darn good a Photoshop and to do this a fake is really excellent work. There are a lot of very minor details they went through to make it a fake- if it is a fake. Not saying it can’t be done, but, too time consuming to get it to look that good. I would almost say it is the real thing.

  • Just mentally replace the “Well at least on my iPhone it looks like it.” with “Well at least on this small, uncalibrated LCD I’m using to view this picture it looks like it” and stop being so pissy.

  • With 3.9fps? Don’t make me laugh. The D300 is twice as fast as that. I would rather have the speed over what I would expect to be very little difference in picture quality.

  • first photo looks real. Second is fake. The body in the first looks very similar to 50D, but the badge is a completely different style/position. Also letters are embossed, unlike either 50D or 5DII. Mic holes are different from 5DII.

    Does anyone know what lens is attached in the first? The focus/IS switch that is partially visible is very close to the lens mount, and recessed (as in some newer designs) – I don’t recognize it. Also can’t see the red dot/white square. Is it possible it’s an EF-S lens?

  • Hi, can you please keep the comments here specific to the 7D? Who mentioned anything about lenses?

  • A D4 with video eh? Firstly, who cares, and secondly, what makes your CANON service points boss an expert on Nikon? We all know there will be either a 60D or a 7D, so if this clown you speak of denies there is a 7D, then one must assume either he doesn’t have a clue, or there is a 60D coming.

  • Good post and about time somebody spoke up. The point and shoots should be further down the food chain after the SLR bodies and lenses. It is infuriating that we get worked up about these announcements but are fed a load of information on toy cameras for children.

  • Oh, crap. If this picture is real, it’s NOT full frame.

    Look closely at that lens mounted. Pull out an EOS with an EF lens mounted on it. If that were an EF lens, there would be a red dot visible in the picture diagonal from the flash release button.

    It would work if it were an EF-S lens, though. The white square would be lower and out of the frame.

    EF-S means APS-C sensor size.

  • I can’t see any pictures – I click that link and I am sent to a page with only Chinese letters and no pictures.

  • Why is it bad news for them? They knew when they bought them that they could never mount them on a FF body, and as technology develops and the market gets competitive of course it will get to the stage where FF cameras can be produced cheaply. It’s not as though their cameras and lenses suddenly stop working, there will still be APS-C cameras at entry level who these lenses will be an attractive second hand buy for.

  • Why bad news?

    I think it’s a smart move to make the xxD fullframe.

    xxxxD and xxxD can be APS-c and xxD and xD can be APS.

  • Also, that 7D logo isn’t the same shape as the logo for the 5DII, original 5D, or 50D. Which lends some credence to the “It’s real” theory–it’s not just a case of replacing a 50 with a 7 and adding some microphone holes.

  • No, just the one picture. There’s a lens mounted in it. You can only see a little bit of the base, but that little bit of base you can see would have a red dot on it if it were an EF lens.

  • I have looked EXTREMELY closly and can confirm that this is a real picture. The 7D is upon us. But sorry, we will not be buying another FF 3.9fps camera, we want a fast camera that can compete with the D300 in low light at high iso settings.

  • Sorry, but it is absolutely impossible to determine anything about the lens with that picture.

  • You might be right…that would be really weird if they changed the model numbering system to XD but not the sensor size. Weirdness…

  • Yes it is. Go look at any EF lens ever made. Look at where the red mounting-alignment dot is. It’s in the same place on every EF lens (for obvious reasons). Mounted on a camera, it always falls in the same spot. That spot would be between the lens release button and the flash pop-up button.

    Compare this with the white square of an EF-S lens, which is further down the lens, and which would therefore land just out of frame.

  • (Although I suppose it’s possible that it’s a third-party lens. But that switch you can see a little bit of looks the same as the switch on my Canon EF-S 18-55)

  • You are incorrect.

    Some lenses like the 85 f/1.2L II have the red dot hidden underneath the barrel, flush with the lens mount

  • it’s not a 10-22mm, the switch style is different. It is more similar to the design of the IS switch on the 55-250mm, but not sure. If you brighten the picture you can see the switch is at the bottom of a panel that sticks out from the main lens body. Could it be a new EF-s lens?

  • …although I just looked through Canon’s current lens lineup and the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are the only ones for which that’s true. It’s clearly not the 85/1.2, so that just leaves the 50/1.2 as a possibility.

  • It looks like a modified 50D body. The lines are the same, but it looks like they changed the top face:

    http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS50D/images/3qtr-001.jpg

    Also, the lens looks like it’s an EF-S, because the white dot is low enough, and the red dot would be higher. Further, I think it’s the EF-S 18-55 IS II

    http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-18-55mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS-Lens-Review.aspx

    Scroll down to the part where he has different lenses that you can see with the mouse over.

    -The 28-135 IS has the red dot too high. The white dots are low enough.

    -The switches for the 18-55 IS seem to line up best with the slight bump down.

    Which likely means that it’s an APS-C sensor (or at least accepts EF-S lenses). Assuming that, you can then say that the rumors involving the APS-C sensor are probably true:

    -8fps

    -15 or 12 MP

    -slightly better weather seals (like 5d II, nothing really great)

    -good HD video

    -and many of the things DPP can do, but on the camera

    What do you think?

  • Keep in mind the D300 drops to 2.5fps the moment you want 14-bit processing :)

    but i agree, i dont want full frame, i like crop and i dont want to see ANOTHER stupid full frame camera :/

    And i dont want a 1D because a Mk2 has equal noise performance to what i have, a mk3 is too expensive and id lose compatability with my 10-20

  • I think that if you’re right, I will be really, really happy. Canon has to keep some investment in the ASP-C world so as not to leave all of us ER-S lens owners high and dry.

  • If the 7D was APS-H and 8fps – now that is the camera we all want. It would be the D300 killer, without a doubt.

  • Why not a FF camera that would accept EF-S mount ? Same way as nikon did with DX.

    That would make sense : this would be the camera between XXD and XD world.

  • Fine, fine.

    To restate: Assuming it’s not using a previously unreleased lens with its red dot in a different-from-normal spot, and assuming it’s not using a third-party lens I’m not familiar with, the lens in this picture appears to be an EF-S lens, which means (unless they’ve done some wackiness with the fundamental operation of the reflex mirror) it’s an APS-C camera.

    Better?

  • The thing that buggers me off the most is that I want to upgrade my 450D. Yes, I want to throw money at Canon, but none of their current line up are tempting. Surely they’re missing a trick if customers want to buy their gubbins but they have holes in their line-up?

  • What was on the brink of a 50d or d90. Frankly the d90 was winning despite the 50d being in a slightly different grade than the d90.

    I think the price of the new canon will play a large part in its success or failure. The new d300s is 1800 body only plus 850ish for the new VRII 18-200 lens.

    If they come out with one and it’s 2700 (best buy rumor) with a 28-135 lens, that seems expensive.

    I want a body and lens for 2K myself.

  • I agree.. the lens is one of 3: 18-55, 18-200, or 55-250.. Those are the only options with the given picture

    The 7d still could be full frame

    * If I were marketing this (FF) camera, EVERY picture would have an EF-S lens on it! Just to show it’s compatibility with all lenses, and ability to crop in camera. It could be the cameras selling point.

    It also would justify the $2700 price. “FF camera with ability to use your EF-S lenses”

  • I just checked this too… there’s no model (that I’m aware of) with a badge layout that looks like that, not to mention the very real-looking microphone holes.

  • Stupid question, if this is a brand new cam, why does the logo look like it has been through the desert of Iraq? It looks “dusty”, not “shiny matte black” like one would expect.

  • Yeah, $2K would be the ideal price range and would actually make sense. Otherwise 5DMII would seem a way to go…

  • I passed it thru several filters and all looks very real even the inverted colors which is easy to spot a fake.

    Only real problems are the aliasing on the 7 lines and the perfect horizontal pixel line in the top part of the seven. The rest of the image is somewhat anti aliased.

    Still this could be real but shot perfectly horizontal and with a crappy camera in this case the EXIF says:

    Camera Make: SONY
    Camera Model: DSC-H1
    Image Date: 2009:08:19 16:20:27
    Flash Used: Yes (Manual, return light detected)
    Focal Length: 10.0mm
    Exposure Time: 0.125 s (1/8)
    Aperture: f/4.0
    ISO equiv: 64
    White Balance: Auto
    Metering Mode: Matrix
    Exposure: program (Auto)

  • It’s real.

    Just look at the curve of the part of camera where the flash button is. It almost makes a smooth curve into the area where the 7d badge is placed.

    Now, bust out google image search and compare it with the 5dmk2 (totally different angle, different position for mic holes, drastically different top piece where the control dial would be), Rebel t1i (similar mic holes, but the 7d is way bigger, room for a dial above the badge), 50d (the area with the flash button is not nearly as curved, the 7d has a more aerodynamic look).

    The 7d photo looks very much like the 50d in overall design and configuation, with added mic holes. But the fact that there is a different curve to the body where the flash button is, suggests very strongly that this photo is legit. It’s one thing to fake a badge and add mic holes, but it’s something totally different, and barely plausible, to think that someone took the time to design a new shape.

    I say myth confirmed and we’re looking at the successor to the 50d. Now, I’m just hoping they officially announce it soon. The 1d4 announcement on 9/1 seems pretty solid, maybe they’ll announce the 1d4 and 7d… and the rebel t1.

  • Thats an awesome idea, at least a touch screen keyboard ala the iPhone, the screens are getting large enough for it.

  • APS-H with EF-S capability makes the most sense to me… otherwise why change the naming convention? And if it were FF would it not seem a bit strange selling alongside the 5DII?

    Not to say that I think it ought to be APS-H…the whole thing seems pretty weird to me these days.

  • Maybe it’s a demo cam or someone is testing it for them. I don’t think this is enough to disqualify this image as fake.

  • Looks fairly real. That angle and feel is hard to fake but, there’s always a chance.

    Overall though i think this is real plus the Best Buy sku# thing.

  • I think the APS-H makes the most sense for a sports version of the 5d II. If it had 12mp on an APC-H it would be exactly the same pixel size as the 5d2.

    So, in theory, it would have the same Hi-ISO ability as the 5d2. It would have the extra reach, and most likely 10-12 FPS.

    If these were the specs, I would imagine that 95% of the upgrades would be from the xxD series users. So the ability to use their EF-S lenses could be the deciding factor.

  • A number of people checked this image through Photoshop and it does look real. Whether the badge itself is from a real camera or not – thats another question. Also, it really bugs me that how come whoever took this pic did not take the pic of the whole camera??? Why zoom into a small detail (badge) and not get the whole camera pic??? Unles this is an “officially leaked teaser” from Canon ;)

  • yeah i agree.
    but maybe the one who took this picture was Canon’s underlings, with the intention to torture us to death haha

  • Price??? If the Best Buy info turned out to be correct, then the price is likely to be correct. I like everything I’m hearing about the 7D, except the price.

    fingers crossed…

    Chris

  • Indeed… that’s what I’m thinking, perhaps with EF-S compatibility. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

  • D3/D700 are really bad, because they are made by Nikon.
    Canon is better.
    Full stop.

    Go back to boredom.

  • It is good news. Doubt it will replace the xxD line though (6.3 fps & EF-S should be it’s own market unless they are going to beef out the 500D more)

  • Based on shadowing on the left side angle of the seven being very strong and not consistent with other similar angles within the label it’s a fake, but very will done with this one exception.

  • I think it is the 85ii. It matches. Or it’s a new lens! Which would be very good indeed. 35ii anyone?

  • On the other hand, now that all PS (sorry – P&S) new “cameras” and the talking printer (I bet all the blonds were waiting for it patiently for quite a while now) got out of the way, all rumors can concentrate on something that might (or might not) represent a real technological achievement by Canon – a new dSLR. Now the real countdown begins. Too bad nobody knows when it ends, but thats another story. Maybe next time Canon will “leak” a new neck strap or something….

    In the mean time people keep giving their hard earned cash to Nikon… I’m sure Canon has a plan, its just nobody can figure it out.

  • Why would the price a lower end model so similarly to the 5D?

    Also, if that price is correct, there’s no way they’d kill off the 60D.

  • Ok so my predication is that it is real that it is ff that it is lower mpx and we get the other things we want including more fps and af points. Weather seal would be a bonus but could be possible given the redesign that may or may not be hinted at by this little photo leak.

  • Agreed. And the crop factor that would be applied for EF-S lenses would actually be reasonable – you maintain 66% of your full resolution. For 16MP APS-H -> 10.6MP APS-C. I think. Most EF-S lenses don’t resolve very well beyond that point anyway. It makes sense in a weird kind of way.

  • Thank goodness Anonymous came along. You’re insight is invaluable! I guess that pretty much sums it up for all of us. Fake. Thanks again Anonymous for your expert opinion.

  • ALL FELLOW RUMOUR-MONGERS

    *** IMPORTANT ***

    THE 7D IS REAL & WILL BE LAUNCHED 01/09/2009 – USA & EUROPE
    IT IS A FULL-FRAME CMOS 21+ MP (36MM X 24MM)
    LIVE-VIEW
    3″ LCD
    HDMI
    9 FPS
    21 AF ASSIST POINTS
    57 AF POINTS
    DUAL MEM CARDS – CF & SD
    DIGIC 4 PROCESSOR
    POP-UP FLASH

    PLEASE NOTE:
    ***D designation camera = entry-level/beginner
    **D designation camera = Amateur/Enthusiast/Intermediate
    *D designation camera = Professional/PhotoJournalists/Rich

    This is a 7D – totally high-end professional camera.

    I will be at the PRESS LAUNCH

  • Teh funney. You don’t even understand Canon’s naming convention. If we take your specs then the cam should have a higher designation than the 5D2, therefore lower number (3D). j00==bad math

  • +1

    Though I would guess the redesign of the body suggests a new product category. I expect a 60D in addition to this one.

  • Mr. chammy… are we to assume, then, that the XXD line will continue undeterred in APS-C world??

  • i vote fake the pixels are perfectly level with the 7 and the lines on the d

    not that i know enough about photoshop to agrue my point

  • The body in that picture is completely wrong for a Canon body. The flash button is on the same plane as the badge, it should be should be on the lens mount like all other canon DSLR’s with popup flash.

    The badge itself is the wrong shape, it’s completely different from every other Canon DSLR badge.

    Big manufacturers like consistency with things like this in their products, it helps to keep manufacturing costs down.

  • Guys if you take the time to compare this image with every other Canon DSLR out there you’ll see this is an evolution from the 50D body style, but the logo is completely different. Given that this is a new line it makes sense for a new logo style.

    You can’t take an image of an existing body just photoshop it. It would be less work to build a plastic shell, which this would be if it is fake. The image is real and since its unlikely somebody would take all that work to make a plastic shell, I say the 7D is real.

  • This photo is most definitely leaked from canon.. if you think about it.. it showed up today when everybody was checking what canon is going to announce.. but all there was were P&S, and they kind of wanted to hold us in the loop with the leaked info about the most talked about eos

    ..my 2cents..€

  • Unless the 50d is designed differently from my 40d and 20d sitting next to me, the position of the screw next to the lens mount in this picture is different from other xxD-series cameras, indicating another detail that would have had to have been manipulated if this is a fake. A full pixel peep makes this look pretty good. For those of you saying that the 7D specs mentioned don’t compete with the D300S, I’d like to remind you that the 7D specs list it as full frame. Full frame trumps the D300S autofocus system and the frames per second. Unless you’re spraying and praying or doing pro sports (in which case you’d have the 1D III or a 50D), 3.9 fps is plenty fast. People are just grasping for things to whine about these days… This gives you a more affordable way to maximize your 24-70 and other L lenses which have always been designed with the full frame in mind (17-40 excluded). As for the video, last time I checked a camera at this price point is designed for PHOTOGRAPHERS, not videographers. I understand the need for it on a 1D III replacement for sports, but the 7D does not need a video mode. If you want video mode, buy a friggin’ video camera. Sheesh.

  • If this was an FF camera, it could not take the EF-S lense that appears to be mounted on it. If it was an EF lense mounted, the red alignement dot would be visible in the picture.
    It is not, so 7D is not FF.

  • This would be a great cam, but as others have noted, this would place the 7D as a far superior model to the 5dmkii, which would violate the naming convention.

    Also, if this were true, it would sell for far more than the 5dmkii and far more than in the best buy rumor.

  • The best buy rumor, which we are now using as the gold standard since it proved accurate with the P&S models, states that there will be a kit for the 7D with the 28-135 lens. That’s the same lens packaged with the 50D; you can walk into any best buy and see for yourself.

    This will be an APS-C camera with the same kit lens as the 50D.

  • Absolutely accurate that we should be seeing a red dot if it were traditional full frame. BUT, the image is inconsistent with an EF-S lens as well, meaning this could be an entirely re-designed mounting system that may accept both EF and EF-S lenses on a full frame camera. If they were going to build a 7D, it would have to be a bridge between the xxD series and the traditional xD series. That may very well be what we are looking at. I have a hard time imagining Canon building the 7D with an APS-C sensor given the market gravitation towards FF. A 12mp, FF camera that accepts EF and EF-S lenses (in a crop mode, possibly with faster frames per second), would slaughter the D300s on the market, given equal pricing. Canon brought us the 5d Mark I when few thought a FF camera could be financially accessible to the prosumer. An FF 7D would represent a continuation with that line of thought.

  • As for the 28-135 lens package indicating it’s APS-C, what lens do you think they’d package with a prosumer FF? A 70-300?? The 28-135 makes the most sense. The 24-105mm would put the kit too far into the pro pricing arena. This is supposed to be the working man’s full frame.

  • You guys are idiots, point and shoot is how Canon makes alot of their money, just because you don’t care about it doesn’t mean the site admin should neglect it, idiots.

  • Right, the XXD range makes a good alternative “sports” camera for people who can’t afford the 1D series.

  • I’d say 90% of people who complain about weather sealing on Canon cameras never really need it.

  • This photo is way to sharp.

    I only believe blurry shaky shots taken with a cell phone (“Sorry about the quality” shots).

    LOL

  • Any reason why Canon wouldn’t release BOTH a 7D FF and a 60D APS-C over the next month or so? Everyone seems to be talking about “Either / Or” but I think there’s a market for both a scaled down FF for low noise and a higher-end APS-C with fast FPS.

  • I totally agree and would be tempted to buy both. Want the best crop camera with extra speed? Here ya go. Want a FF for a better price but not hung up on huge MP and speed? Here ya go.

    Which form of payment will you be using today?

  • The shadows, bright points, CA around all parts of the image ALL match perfectly and it is a very high res picture.

  • “loosed” did they?! Loosed their belts or something.

    LOL. Also, what does “sucke” mean?

    How old are you? 12? :P

  • For the Logics somethings els now:
    Why 7D ???
    Ok, let’s count the future editions: 7D, 8D, 9D, 10D, 10D???
    Oops, I have a 20D (already!). And I am looking for a good 2nd hand 40D (since the 50D ended up in a kind of marketing failure). I hope that Canon will be back right on track with the 60D.

    Actually, at this stage the improvements and the innovative moves should come from the lens corner. Find a way to make L-lenses become at least 50% less expensive.

  • Correct. There is a problem with the lighting/shadows. And if you look very closely, you can see that the rubber-gap around the logo is photoshopped. The logo itself looks like a cutout from a Minolta Dynax. The picture is 100% fake – but a very well done fake.

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