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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Price Drops on the Canon Cinema EOS C100
« on: January 24, 2015, 12:21:45 AM »
"A BlackMagic system can knock these out of the water when being used by the right person or team of people."

I've spent some time with a BMCC and absolutely hate the ergonomics (wait, what ergonomics? it's a box with buttons!). Its video performance is excellent, but its physical design is not my cup of tea.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Price Drops on the Canon Cinema EOS C100
« on: January 23, 2015, 08:41:13 AM »
At this price, the old C100 will sit on shelves for a while. I could get a a7s + Shogun for $4500. 4K, FF, ProRes vs. HD, crop, AVCHD.

With the A7S you'd also have to purchase the XLR adaptor, EF Lens adaptor, Variable ND filter(s), and SSDs which will put you closer to $6000.  If your clients are asking for 4K then the A7S with shogun is a good deal and will produce an amazing image.  But when doing Run 'N Gun, weddings, or events the C100 is probably a better bet since many people can use it right out of the box.  Also, the Dual Pixel AF is extremely helpful for any of the situations listed above.  It's really just a matter of what your needs are, what your clients' needs are, and what your budget is.

I disagree on a few things.

1. EF lens adaptor: not so much a disagreement, more like Metabones is very cheap (in this field anyway) so it's not going to upset me budget
2. SSDs have come down in price enough to make them viable, and I hardly ever consider storage device as part of the cost
3. NDs: also extremely cheap and do not remotely affect the total cost
4. XLR adaptor: I don't speak for everyone obviously, but for my work we have an audio guy so on-camera-sound is not part of the equation

So in the end, it's just the SSD pushing the cost higher. $900 for SSDs (if Metabones Canon EF to Sony E = $650)?

C100 battery: $150. a7s battery: $40 for 2. I don't mean to be difficult, but I don't see how a C100 system will save me a lot of money. Especially considering it's the OLD C100 we're talking about here. To me, I could pay a bit more to have 4K AND ProRes AND FF.

A minor note on the run-n-gun thing: I agree that for those hectic moments, the dual pixel AF is handy. But for more documentary or film (staged) work, that function is completely useless. As you said, it depends on what the needs are. For news coverage I can see how the C100 would have an advantage in focus.

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Lenses / Re: Purple fringing of 85 1.2ii
« on: January 22, 2015, 08:16:34 PM »
Purple fringing can be avoided by not taking extremely shiny or glowing objects under the sun (white T-shirt, et al). I've never seen purple fringing on a red car. ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: CN-E 35-260mm f/2.8 Soft Focus Lens
« on: January 22, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »
I have never used a soft-focus lens so I may appear daft here, but the example pictures look like they could be mostly achieved in post.

Also, the Flickr page's images look like some were manipulated by smearing the UV filter. And these are just stills for personal tastes (not seeing too many of these on mainstream media).

Most importantly, I still can't see any real-world, practical applications for this lens in the movie scene. It doesn't make sense for anyone to market a (dare I say it) useless lens to the high-end market.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 22, 2015, 08:01:40 PM »
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the visual language is different.

Couldn't agree more. One looks to capture the moment while the other conveys a continuous action. I do think, though, that for slower-paced events (catwalks, wedding-in-church) stills from videos can work if there's no manpower to spare for a separate photographer, since there's not much to convey in terms of action anyway.

As for the motion blur thing, it seems like nobody does it if it can be avoided. Too much of a workaround?

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Price Drops on the Canon Cinema EOS C100
« on: January 22, 2015, 07:51:03 PM »
At this price, the old C100 will sit on shelves for a while. I could get a a7s + Shogun for $4500. 4K, FF, ProRes vs. HD, crop, AVCHD.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Global Shutter Coming to Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: January 22, 2015, 07:47:43 PM »
Um... global shutter... AWESOME!

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 22, 2015, 03:41:51 AM »
Can you do motion blur video that way? I never even considered this possibility! I imagine a lot of frame interpolation would be required, meaning lots of rendering time?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Discontinued
« on: January 22, 2015, 03:39:52 AM »
I had this lens before and thought it was a little better than the Canon version. Its price, I think, was not helping sales because a lot of white box versions of the Canon 24-105 were available at a lower price, and to the casual consumer, they will pick a "big brand" with lots of ads over a name that perhaps only the more advanced users know. Or maybe they just remember Sigma from the old days, before the Art series, and figured it to be a poor brand.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 21, 2015, 07:14:19 AM »
You raise a good point, my friend. Indeed, I agree most ppl cannot "see" the difference, but there are some customers who will comment that the motion looks "off" and can't describe it. ;) It mostly happens when there are elements of water (fountain, water splash) where the droplets look too sharp. I'm not saying it's a bad thing since different situations call for different looks, I'm just saying that shooting video at high shutter speeds for the sake of photo is kinda doing things backwards. If it works for you, I can respect that. :)

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:21:57 PM »
I respectfully disagree that the 180-rule can be safely disregarded for non-film shoots. Shooting sports at 1/1000s just looks too rough. There still needs to be a certain level of motion blur. The exception would be high frame rate shoots (240fps+), then the visual clarity would help tremendous.

I do agree that 1/125s is commonly used. I do it myself and have no issues. But to shoot at super-high shutter speeds just so we can get a screengrab from it? Seems like the priority is the photo, in which case I'd gladly shoot in still mode. I would not risk shooting a dancing couple at 1/250s for fear of smearing their faces with motion blur.

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Reviews / Re: 85mm 1.8 vs other 85mm Primes for portraits
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:15:30 PM »
Had a sunset shoot yesterday with lots of action involved. I was glad I used the f1.8 version. Keeper rate was very high thanks to the much faster focus speed. It made shudder to think how miserably the shoot would have gone had I used the f1.2.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: CN-E 35-260mm f/2.8 Soft Focus Lens
« on: January 15, 2015, 06:35:28 PM »
So... no real-world examples of a soft focus lens in use? I'm very curious.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 15, 2015, 06:30:38 PM »
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with the 4k video you can probably use screengrabs from any video it outputs as photos

It's actually been done. There was a video review of screengrabs from a 1DC printed to a huge size (A1? can't remember, but it was a roll). The details were exquisite and comparable to the best stills cameras (1DX, D4s).

4K resolution is 4096x2160, which is 8.5MP with an aspect ration of 1:1.9, which AFAIK is rare in print, e.g. magazine page sizes are 1:1.3. I doubt that would make a quality print larger than A3.

I was surprised myself. Here's one of many Youtube videos that prove 1DC screengrabs can print to HUGE sizes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwpvzza_Q04

This is definitely many times larger than A3.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon EOS-1D C Coming Down in Price Again?
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:27:05 PM »
And as mentioned above, it's prone to motion blur because videos are usually shot at 1/50s or 1/60s, so screengrabbing from high-speed events is close to useless.

At "high-speed events" you just bump the shutter speed for 4k frame grabs.  No prob.

-- peer

I don't follow. You're not suggesting shooting video at 1/125s or 1/250s just so you can grab stills from it? That would ruin the video itself. It would be better to just shoot photos at 1/1000s.

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