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I think it is more likely the 7D MkII remains a high frame rate APS sensor sports oriented camera.

I think the 70D will be a full frame upgrade to the 60D, with a polycarb body and an articulating screen.

I think this makes a lot more sense for Canon. With the 1D going full frame many sports pros still want the extra reach of an APS sensor (C or H) and the pro level 7D would fill that.

A full frame 70D modeled after the 60D makes sense. It would allow an entry level full frame camera, without putting to much pricing pressure on the 5D MkIII.

So I see Canon's line up as:
1DX
3D a high mega pixel full frame camera to match the D800
5D Mk III
7D Mk II high frame rate APS sensor camera
70D poly carb swivel LCD full frame camera (Full Frame Super Rebel)
T4i
T4 entry level APS-C camera
?? Mirrorless Camera designed to use STM lenses.

I added my version to your lineup:
1DX
3D a high mega pixel full frame camera to match the D800
5D Mk III
6D (5DII with new sensor and tech, slightly improved AF)
7D Mk II high frame rate APS sensor camera
70D poly carb swivel LCD full frame camera (Full Frame Super Rebel)
T4i
T4 entry level APS-C camera
?? Mirrorless Camera designed to use STM lenses.

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Maybe with the mystical D600 and rumoured new entry ff from Canon, we'll see the beginning of the end of APS-C in everything but the rebel line.  Really, if you have a ff camera and need more reach you probably can afford one of the TCs.

I would like it to be that way again. The first DSLR I bought back in the film days was "FF" ;-) Call it 6D, 2k price tag, ISO 100-25.600, extensions ISO 50, ISO 51200, improved 18 MP sensor (feasable?), 4-5fps, 5D3 AF (don't have it yet, but I do not read lots of complaints). If you want more, pay more  8)

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Entry Level FF by Q1 2013?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 14, 2012, 01:56:26 PM »
The point made about the 50D not having video was the big reason I think it was not a major hit on the market, and because the AF was not upgraded. To say the 5DmkIII will have similar market irrelevancy is a hard comparison to make, the only thing I can see holding the 5DmkIII back from record breaking sales figures would be the price. That is the one thing Canon can address, if they feel the need to. I'm sure the price will come down some eventually, the question is how much? The answer will be how many does Canon want to sell?

I think the other aspect is what does Canon have up their sleeve? A ~$2k full frame camera may be on the horizon, and that camera would probably be a huge seller. I think Canon hurt some of their potential 1Dx sales by making the 5DmkIII so good (and by getting it to market so quickly), so they may decide to keep the price up on the 5DmkIII to offset some of the lost sales on the 1Dx. The new, lower cost full-frame will probably be the one they look to become the mass seller, pricing it more competitively to get record breaking sales figures. Does that mean the 5DmkIII will be irrelevant? I doubt it because it has all the top features, the less expensive model is sure to lack some of those, making it cheaper to produce and less desirable to those who require all the features. I would suspect the cheaper camera to not have the best weather sealing, a single card, maybe the AF won't be quite as good...sounds a lot like the 5DmkII, don't you think? Maybe it will have lower MP than the 5DmkIII, but the same AF. Whatever it is, I think you can count on the 5DmkIII still having better specs and still having a good place in the lineup, Canon has had a long time to bring that camera to market, and I'm sure they thought about what they would do to make sure it had adequate shelf live on the market.

I will go for the 5D3. But not now. Hope the price comes down within the next 12 to 18 month. Saving up for a WA as well. Not the 16-35, the 17-40 is plenty for me as an amateur. As I already have a 77mm ND 10 filter, it doesn't make much sense. I do daylight longexpoures whenever I get down to  the ocean...In the meantime my trusty 30D will do the job.

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I think it makes sense to move the 70D up to the level of 7D since the xxD series has been bumped up, with the xxxD series taking its place. I guess a 7D Mark II could become an entry level FF but as you said, it doesn't make much sense in a marketing perspective. With a D600 out, Canon will most definitely need a entry FF which is better than 5D2 (with a decent AF). Maybe "EOS 7D F".

I would not call it 7D F. This might give way to the 6D as discussed earlier this year

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: So Nikon D600 is real after all
« on: June 14, 2012, 12:11:46 PM »
Nikon just threw down the gauntlet on canon. It's almost a 5Dmk3 for half the price. They'd better drop the mk3 prices to a reasonable level or make a new entry level camera. Possibly a 5d mark 2 N version with improved AF.

I will stay focussed on the 5D3. But I doubt a lower price tag once Canon catches up with an entry level model. But anyway, 6D or FF 7D would steal some of the thunder of the rumored darkside announcement. Intresting times. Would take photography back to where I started out 30+ years ago with a 24x36 Contax 139 Quartz...don't know how much it cost anymore... 8)

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Someone over at CW just came up with this idea again. CR -3? 8)
Quotation from CW:
"I was a little bit uncertain if I should post this. The rumor comes from a new source, and it is the first time I hear this very rumor. After having had some emails with the source, I had the feeling that I could trust it. However, this is a rumor, and as all rumors it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Ok, here it is: I have been told that Canon is working on a new DSLR, a camera that will be a complete game changer and that will be announced in September (Photokina). Aimed at the super-pro photo-crowd, this DSLR will sport a entirely new sensor, a sensor that is said to be bigger than a full-frame sensor. No word, unfortunately, about resolution or other core specs, nor if it will be medium format or not. Just “bigger than full-frame” (see the pic below to get an idea about sensor sizes). If the rumor turns out to be true, it would mean that Canon is expanding its territory, not only jumping (hopefully soon) on the mirror-less bandwagon, but also invading a domain where others are the main players.

This is a hot summer regarding Canon announcements, and we can expect more rumors to leak in the next weeks and months. We should see a mirror-less camera announced in the next weeks (if all the rumors I and others reported are true). Then there is Photokina in September, where most of us expect the EOS 70D and the EOS 7D Mark II to be announced. And the new, mysterious DSLR with a sensor bigger than full-frame. Stay tuned!"

Here's the link to it.
http://www.canonwatch.com/
Cheers, Pedro

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« on: June 13, 2012, 03:50:23 AM »
Sooo...my 5DmkII is being considered 'entry level' now?

 8) I like that...This turns 5D3 into a "higher entry level" cam. LOL and cheers, Pedro

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Availability [CR3]
« on: June 09, 2012, 10:09:07 AM »
Let's just call it October and make it an even year since the original announcement of the camera.  One full trip around the sun.

Though I still look forward to the 1DX, I am interested to see if any of the cameras announced between now and when it actually ships end up looking better to me because an entire development cycle for most companies will have gone by.

Not a pro. Maybe you either. What if many more people take your route? + Dx could stay on the shleves after pro's are supplied...don't know.

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Well, let's wirte to canon then...if the other label did something thing similar, this would be revolutionary as it builds on the well respected specs of the original 7D. Don't have it, but what I've read here and there, is more than enough. It has a high reputation. A colleague of mine has one and he loves it!

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A 5d2 killer definitely - unless its priced @2600+ and the 5d2 drops to 1899.

I supposed my wishful thinking FF/Crop 1.6 7DX to be a fine replacement of the 5D2. And of course you are right, it wouldn't be a 5D3 killer at all. But an affordable body for many purposes. Tag it  US $ 2400 and you get a nice gap between APS-C and the next level FF body, the current 5D3. Any other comments welcome.

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So, what will a 7DII be like? Are these hints of a probable change towards FF or aps-h?

7DII would never be FF. wildlife & sports photographers would go crazy :P

OR: What if the 7DII or 7Dx will be FF with an implemented 1.6 Crop mode? ISOs up to 25600? Wouldn't it make a perfect lower segment FF multiusable baby-1Dx-body? Or would this convert it into a 5Diii killer? Any comments welcome. Cheers, Pedro.

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So, what will a 7DII be like? Are these hints of a probable change towards FF or aps-h?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Lower Price Full Frame Camera [CR1]
« on: May 15, 2012, 06:58:27 AM »
Nikon is rumored to be bring out a low end FF Body.  It will not be pro level, but have the features of their beginner models. 
 
The Canon equivalent would be a FF Rebel, but even that would be better than the nikon model which, without a AF motor drive, can only use the newer Nikon lenses.  So if you have good but older Nikon Glass, it would be no autofocus. This really runs up the price to the buyer.

I would like to see this materializing. Would take us  back to film days, when every SLR was FF.  The manufacturers may use lesser material in > US $ 2200 bodies and so on, as long as they get back to "the real thing", maybe time and construction cost are due for a move like that.

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"Red has always worked fine and it's what we're used to. I can't think of a situation where the red AF point is not immediately  apparent. On 1-Series bodies I choose to max the brightness of the AF display points. Maybe you'd like the simple option of dimming the points.

You know I'm wondering if the prolonged delay of the 1DX might have something to do with the black AF point issue. Sports shooters would be beta testing the 1DX and they would be blistering in their criticism of the black AF point issue.

Alternatively it may be a deliberate design decision to partially cripple the 5D3 to make the 1DX more attractive to action shooters.

Paul Wright"


Waiting to upgrade from a 30D I would feel kinda strange if they'd "crippled" AF points for such a purpose on the 5D3. If they can do it in my 30D, why here ? Cheers, Pedro

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