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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L Macro USM
« on: October 24, 2011, 09:40:08 AM »
Uh Oh, you loaned a reviewer  a bad copy  :-\ ....

You can see from the 2 pics above, it is pretty sharp. I agree with your friend though that the non-L non IS version of the 100mm f2.8 is one very sharp lens!

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L Macro USM
« on: October 23, 2011, 08:05:43 AM »
I used to own the 180L macro some time ago and found it to be too soft.  After owning it for about a year and a half I wound up selling it.  I am not sure if I just had a bad copy but I do know others who have had similar issues.  I also own the 100L IS macro and the MP-E 65. All three are completely different macro lenses, but in terms of pure sharpness the 180 was easily in last place.

The 180 is a useful lens and I used it quite often when I traveled to Mexico for photographing lizards.  It also does a good job for butterflies.  For dragonflies I find my 300/4 a bit more useful because they can be a bit skittish.  For flowers I tend to prefer the flexibility of the TS-E 90 + extenders.

I absolutely love my 100 IS macro.  It is a sharp lens but the main drawing point is the macro.  I use this lens quite often when traveling in markets and shops to photograph small things and I almost always do this hand held.  Without the IS it simply wouldn't be possible.

If Canon were to come out with a new version of the lens I would probably pick it up once reviews confirm that it fixes the sharpness problems of the original.

You are the first person I have heard saying the 180mm is soft, if anything this and the 135 f2 are perhaps Canon's sharpest lenses. Maybe you had a misaligned copy and thats just unfortunate.

You are right, in the macro world, the smallest things are amplified, so this and the 100L are quite different. Also I owned that one too, it was sharp, less sharp than the non;L version but very close, but the 180 seems sharper.

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 L Macro USM
« on: October 22, 2011, 07:28:09 PM »
Love the 180mm !!

Not easy to work with though   :P

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United States / Re: Canon 135L or the 100L Macro?
« on: October 21, 2011, 01:14:49 PM »
........  You just have to get closer than normal to your subject to narrow your depth of field.  This may make your human subject uncomfortable and act less natural.
......


 :) Yes, thats one of the reasons I got the 180mm 3.5L macro. Gives more more distance from the subject and the amount of bokeh is more than the other lenses due to it's longer reach. See a comparison of Bokeh of the Canon 65mm/100mm & 180mm here: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-100mm-f-2.8-USM-Macro-Lens-Review.aspx  Go down about 50% of the page to see a comparison.

Ofcourse, this might get too long for you then, but will do very nice portraits and Macro all in one.

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United States / Re: Canon 135L or the 100L Macro?
« on: October 21, 2011, 12:13:53 PM »
I have tried Diapoters...

It is hard as it is taking good macro shots... let's just say adding more glass to existing lenses just makes it less fun. Get a proper Macro if you are into Macro..

Unless you really need IS, the non-L 100mm f2.8 Macro is a great buy for the money, I had one, it was sharper than the L version. It also takes great Portaits. Thats another option.

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Landscape / Re: Water Reflections
« on: October 21, 2011, 10:51:34 AM »
Wonderful Ions, the first one is so palpable!

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Landscape / Re: Water Reflections
« on: October 21, 2011, 10:50:28 AM »
Please post your reflective pictures of liquid reflections in a natural setting here :-)

Entries could be ocean/shorelines, rivers/creeks, lakes, ice, air ... no matter where ... only that there should not be manmade structures in the main focus of the picture or artificial reflections on glass, chrome, steel etc ...

To give you an idea I will start this with some of mine and hope you will soon add more :-)
         

I love them... I would have backed off the vibrancy just a little though...  :)

I love the bright green grass where the sun hits them. The sun in the last one is a bit overdone, (something easily fixable) but it is a very interesting rendition. Great compositions!

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Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: Canon EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM
« on: October 19, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »
Love the lens...

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 02:39:13 PM »
This sounds like Canon have read my thoughts and made my perfect camera......how do I pre order? waiting till March is going to be torture to try one of these beasts out!


Macfly pulled a Kenraw instead ...

Kenraw is no longer jumping ship guys!!  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:20:32 PM »
Samples from the EOS 1DX:-
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html

 >:( though a bit too small..

Notice the 8-15mm EF lens there? :)

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Canon General / Re: New 65 f/2.8 & 180 f/3.5 Macro Patents
« on: October 17, 2011, 02:14:37 PM »
I'll bet the 65 is a replacment for the 50 [very dated, life size converter discontinued], not the MP-E. They really need an EF lens in that range that'll go to 1:1.

Even though it isn't mentioned I'll also bet the 180 will have IS.

Perhaps, however the lens is already pushing $1570... add IS and it could top $2000. The lens is heavy, and meant to be used on a tripod (collar comes standard): So unless they can change the size of the lens, I won't be super depressed if IS is missing. I would like to see it focussing a bit quicker though.

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Canon General / Re: New 65 f/2.8 & 180 f/3.5 Macro Patents
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:47:08 AM »
The 180mm macro design speaks for itself, and I think the 65mm macro design is for a direct replacement for the MP-E.  Knock on wood, haven't bought either lens yet.  I'd wished they would have increased the 180 macro's aperture a bit but the new design will probably be worth it regardless.  Lots of interesting patents from Canon lately - if refreshes are your thing.

180mm:  Good for you guys and the guy that sold me his 3 days ago...   :-[
Well, there's a good reason I shouldn't have written that.

First, you knew what you were doing when you bought the lens, so go use it and don't worry.

If you still are worried, why?  The price of the new (and unannounced) lens won't start impacting that of the old lens for some time.  Few enough people probably even know of these patents and it will take a long time (Canon or Nikon doesn't matter here) for it to roll out, even if they announced it today.

I haven't followed pricing trends before a replacement launch strongly but my belief is that lens prices of a previous version should dip most right before and right after the launch, and then stabilize after.  If you're so worried about the price of the purchase (which I don't think will dip enough to really make it a "worthless" buy) then you perhaps couldn't afford it in the first place.

Your best chance for a belly laugh is to go out and make pictures that I can't since I don't have a macro lens.  And even if I do get a newer version macro, it'll be more expensive and you'll still have some lead time with better pictures out now.

My final thought is this - if you go out right now and buy a camera body, how long will it take until that camera's value is reduced appreciably?  Even camera bodies, which are arguably obsoleted by newer models (depending on who you ask of course) do retain some of their value, but people buy them regardless.  If this were a camera body I would be more careful with my words since a lot of people's feelings get hurt about new camera bodies, but with a lens that's to be replaced by a lens that will be more expensive (partly due to inflation adjustment, partly just the cost of running newer equipment to manufacture it) I don't see the worry.

Anyway, go out there and take some pictures without worrying.  You needed it, bought it, and nothing is preventing you from being happy with the investment aspect of it either.  For all we know the current version will become regarded as a "classic" and people will still demand it later on.

True... and thanks!

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR on Tuesday, October 18, 2011. [CR3]
« on: October 14, 2011, 11:53:07 AM »
I keep coming to this thread and see how Lack of any news/ leaks from Canon has all of us in a Frenzy here... now THAT's marketing  ;D
+1, i've also bee doing my own google searches and canon news feeds hoping for somethin CR guy may have missed - can't find anything.

I couldn't afford anything up towards the high end anyway -- yet i'm still bothered - grrr, why is that?

I tell you what... maybe we can pick up used 5d2/ 7d's at great prices once neuroanatomist upgrades to the new bodies.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR on Tuesday, October 18, 2011. [CR3]
« on: October 14, 2011, 11:25:43 AM »
I keep coming to this thread and see how Lack of any news/ leaks from Canon has all of us in a Frenzy here... now THAT's marketing  ;D
+1, i've also bee doing my own google searches and canon news feeds hoping for somethin CR guy may have missed - can't find anything.

I couldn't afford anything up towards the high end anyway -- yet i'm still bothered - grrr, why is that?

And someone just smited me for that observation...   :-X

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR on Tuesday, October 18, 2011. [CR3]
« on: October 14, 2011, 10:10:15 AM »
I keep coming to this thread and see how Lack of any news/ leaks from Canon has all of us in a Frenzy here... now THAT's marketing  ;D

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