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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:17:24 AM »
Thereby creating multiple catalogs can make little sense unless you have a very good reason to do so - it can make sense for example to have a "personal" one, and a "professional" one if you want to keep  really separated say, your family shots from those you make for your customers - maybe you don't want to show your personal shots to a customer by mistake.

I find performance takes a major hit as catalog size increases, even if it deletes rendered previews on a scheduled basis. Therefore I don't work in my master catalog. I create a new dedicated catalog for each individual shoot or day, depending on the situation. Once I've completed my culling/processing/exporting, I open my master catalog and import the new one to it. This way I rarely have more than a thousand photos within a working catalog.

I have two catalogs - a 200,000 image main catalog and an 800 image test catalog.  I can't tell a difference in speed between them.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming March 9
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:15:16 AM »
But this is indeed one of my major griefs with LR - it throws away the embedded jpeg preview of the cr2

If you set previews to "Minimal" or "Embedded & Sidecar" it will use the previews from the RAW file instead of generating one.

It only uses them until it generates its own.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:14:43 AM »
LR has both, for people that prefer it either way.  You can use folders (as most people do) and add collections, smart collections and keywords.

You fail to understand how LR really works behind the scenes.

Wrong.  I guarantee I understand it way better than you do.

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A "folder", in LR, is really a "catalog", because LR needs to import image into first.

A folder in Lightroom is a referenced folder on your hard drive.  LR imports only by reference - it doesn't import your images, it just creates a database of information about your images.  They stay where they are.  A catalog is an SQLITE database stored in a .lrcat file, along with a preview database in the same folder as the .lrcat file.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming March 9
« on: February 20, 2015, 09:30:33 AM »
What are your settings - especially the preview generation one, on import? Are you creating DNGs? Are you applying any development preset and/or metadata/keyword? LR can do less or more while you're importing images. And its speed depends on that. Especially generating standard or smart previews can take a far longer time.

You should perform a comparison using compatible parameters - otherwise it becomes an apple to orange comparison...

Well, with Photos I didn't have to generate any previews at all - it imported my 2,000 RAW files (referenced) in about a minute, and I was immediately able to scroll around and edit with no slowdown.

That's because it isn't rendering the images.  It's just showing you the embedded JPEGs.

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In my LR I generate 1:1 previews on import. I would've had to wait an age to have LR to generate 2,000 previews after import if I did the same test the other way around, something I didn't have to do with Photos. For all my other performance comparisons, I wait until LR has completely finished generating previews and whatnot before scrolling/editing/etc. Photos is still way faster.

Previews (with the exception of Smart Previews and the offlining benefits they provide) are basically a workaround for poor performance.

No, they're a way to show you the Lightroom-generated rendering, instead of the camera-generated rendering.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 20, 2015, 08:51:09 AM »
Are you serious?  You create multiple catalogs for a single job?  I have every photo I've ever taken for every purpose in one LR catalog.  There are so many ways to separate photos that I find I only use about a third of them.

It needs a switch from a "folder" mindset to a "database" one. In a database you don't really care how and where data are physically stored. You care about how to retrieve them with the proper "queries" when you need them, and let the database engine find and return them to you. Just, most computer users are used to the folder hierarchical format, but not to the database "flatter" structure, and its attribute-based search, although the latter is far much more powerful, when mastered.

LR has both, for people that prefer it either way.  You can use folders (as most people do) and add collections, smart collections and keywords.

My suggestion is to use folders as primary, and keywords and EXIF data as secondary means of organizing in LR.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 20, 2015, 07:50:17 AM »
I find that the amorphous blob for me is more organized than the multiple LR libraries I find myself creating to handle items from multiple jobs.  I can have multiple projects, folders, and ultimately jobs in the same Aperture library, whereas I find I can't separate jobs as well in LR.

Are you serious?  You create multiple catalogs for a single job?  I have every photo I've ever taken for every purpose in one LR catalog.  There are so many ways to separate photos that I find I only use about a third of them.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 07:31:36 PM »
First, does anyone know if the March 9th release date is a fact or just another rumor?

Just a rumor.

Ah, thanks.
Have Adobe usually just released new versions of LR without any warning, or do they let us know somehow a short time in advance? I'm sure they've had beta versions available for the public to try out in the past but I can't find any such thing for LR6.

They often do beta versions, but they also don't release information in advance.  So your guess is as good as anyone's.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 06:49:05 PM »
One person's bloat is another's treasure. I like and use the Book feature, and I hope they not only keep it in (a certainty) but enhance it.

Fair enough. Well even though it's running and utilizing resources, at least I can disable the pallet so I don't have to see it :P

It's taking up memory with the code, and perhaps some resource when it initializes, but it doesn't run per se, until you switch to it. Disable it from the pallet and it's consumption is quite small (couple of hundred MB I would guess)

It doesn't even take up memory unless you launch it.  It takes up a little bit of hard drive space.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 03:24:44 PM »
First, does anyone know if the March 9th release date is a fact or just another rumor?

Just a rumor.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:46:59 PM »
My real problem with it is for LR.  It's a database, and I don't want to lose access my database simply because I stop paying a subscription.

You won't.

This went largely under the radar:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2014/07/what-happens-to-lightroom-after-my-membership-ends.html

"With the latest update to Lightroom 5.5 I believe we’ve also addressed a lingering concern in the community: What happens to my photographs after my membership ends?  With Lightroom 5.5, at the end of a membership, the desktop application will continue to launch and provide access to the photographs managed within Lightroom as well as the Slideshow, Web, Book or Print creations that we know many photographers painstakingly create."

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:45:06 PM »
I would never buy the $9.99 bundle because it's a ripoff for those like me that don't use PS.

Is it? That seems highly subjective. I was on LR 3.5 a year or so ago. It was either pony up 100 bucks up front for a one time purchase... or just pay 10 bucks a month, locked in for one year. Roughly the same price. And if you look at is as having free upgrade insurance and access to photoshop... not sure "ripoff" is terribly accurate.

LR upgrades are $79 every 1.5 to 2 years, or about $4.40 a month.  So, yes, $9.99 a month is a ripoff for those, like me, that don't use PS.  Note that I do use PS Elements, but the last upgrade cycle I skipped from version 3 to version 9, and got version 9 at Costco for about $80 or so.  So, that's $80 every 6 years or another $1.11 a month.  Would you pay $9.99 for something you like less than what you were paying $5.50 for?  I'd call that a rip off.

Fortunately, LR will likely remain on perpetual license, at least for a while if not a long while.

So you consider $4.49 per month for the best imaging editing software on the planet a ripoff? That is idiotic.

Please explain how forcing me to pay for something I'll never use is NOT a ripoff.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 19, 2015, 09:12:26 AM »
I would never buy the $9.99 bundle because it's a ripoff for those like me that don't use PS.

Is it? That seems highly subjective. I was on LR 3.5 a year or so ago. It was either pony up 100 bucks up front for a one time purchase... or just pay 10 bucks a month, locked in for one year. Roughly the same price. And if you look at is as having free upgrade insurance and access to photoshop... not sure "ripoff" is terribly accurate.

LR upgrades are $79 every 1.5 to 2 years, or about $4.40 a month.  So, yes, $9.99 a month is a ripoff for those, like me, that don't use PS.  Note that I do use PS Elements, but the last upgrade cycle I skipped from version 3 to version 9, and got version 9 at Costco for about $80 or so.  So, that's $80 every 6 years or another $1.11 a month.  Would you pay $9.99 for something you like less than what you were paying $5.50 for?  I'd call that a rip off.

Fortunately, LR will likely remain on perpetual license, at least for a while if not a long while.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 18, 2015, 06:47:20 PM »
I might suggest that those that don't want/need Photoshop CC are those SOOC folks that are satisfied with
 Canon's interpretation of their image and/or do not have the wherewithal to utilize stringent PP, it does take
   the ability to undergo the learning curve.     ::)

Wrong.

I post process every image I use, and none of them are with CS6 or CC.  Only about 1 in 1000 are with PS Elements (only the ones requiring compositing).  I use Lightroom only for the other 999.

And I started using PS in version 6.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom 6 Coming Very Soon
« on: February 18, 2015, 06:29:41 PM »
CC is not "ridiculously cheap", but a nasty monthly rent that I will never accept.
Especially since I won't ever touch Photoshop because of its totally un-intuitive 1980's style user interface.

Hmmm, that might be the most negative mindset I've seen in a long time. I get it that you don't want to pay a monthly fee, but at least considering my investments in pre-CC photoshop and lightroom versions it's cheaper to just pay the low monthly fee. Your choice to make but it doesn't make it "not ridiculously cheap" for all of us...

What I really don't get is the bash on the photoshop interface. I can't understand what you're complaining about... ? What's wrong with it, because I never experience anything close to that? Maybe it's the fact that most people use shortcuts? I'd think that it would get tedious if you have to pick everything from a menu. But then again, most users with a bit of experience use the shortcuts.

I've used computers since 1981, and PS has the worst user interface of any user application I've ever used.  It's so bad that I use Elements 9 over CS6 just because the user interface is a little bit less horrible.

I would never buy the $9.99 bundle because it's a ripoff for those like me that don't use PS.

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Lenses / Re: Why does 7D II seem COMPARATIVELY soft with certain lenses?
« on: February 16, 2015, 06:47:04 AM »
I'm asking why the 7D II seems soft compared to FF.

Because of reduced enlargement ratio.  A crop camera has to be enlarged 1.6 times as much to generate the same size final image.  This puts extra stress on the optics.  However, that's with constant framing.  With constant focal length, the smaller pixels of the crop camera will extract more detail.

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