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What lenses were used? I would imagine the differences in lenses would be as likely a suspect for perceived differences as anything else.

I found a link to some higher bit-rate mkiii footage over at cinema 5D. Once you click on the link, you can download it with the tab on the right.!365&sff=1

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:39:16 AM »
4k is nice, but I'd be perfectly happy getting the C300 image quality in a much cheaper camera. If that has to be a DSLR, then fine. I'll buy.

4k, yes. Better DR and low light performance than the c300? Doubtful. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« on: March 12, 2012, 03:59:54 PM »
The 5D3 is basically a merging of the 5D2 and 7D cameras and lines.  The 1Dx is now the sports action camera, so the space remains for the "Studio" version of a DSLR with a full-featured video spec, in a 1D-type body...

I agree that the 5d3 can be seen as the merge of the 5D and 7D lines.

But I think that the new cinema DSLR will be more of a video-first, stills-second cam, and therefore not a serious studio portrait option. 

If you have a 1080 clip form the mkiii could you please post it?

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Teases Exclusive Screening at NAB 2012
« on: March 11, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »
Swap a new censor into the 1dx and you get your 4k dslr.  I agree with the previous posters who say it will be 4-6K in price. They want to undercut RED.

EOS Bodies / Re: The writing on the wall
« on: March 08, 2012, 04:11:51 PM »
Sony is a bigger company, but they are not exactly overflowing with cash for R&D.  There is a reason their stock prices diverge(see below).  It's in large part because Sony is operating at a loss and Canon is not.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Real video samples from 5d Mark iii?
« on: March 08, 2012, 02:33:49 PM »
indeed, every video I've seen from the 5D3 looks soft, even the 1080p curtain flick "straight from the camera" that appeared yesterday and quickly disappeared

I don't know how they managed that, after using a sensor that's exactly 1080p times 3 so downsampling becomes easier

so yes, it has no moire/aliasing, massively improved high ISO, and hopefully a better codec (no all-I samples out yet), but limited to 8-bit 4:2:0 and looking this soft... lots of people seriously rethinking 5D3 for video right now

What makes you think it is 4:2:0? The bit-rate numbers suggest that it is 4:2:2.

I am very interested to learn if the All-I mode is 4:2:2 or 4:2:0.  4:2:2 would be a great help for green screen work.

Canon can always send out a firmware update if their calculations indicate Nikon is hurting them more than cannibalism of the C series would be.

Using AVC-Intra100 as a benchmark, which is 100mbps with 10 bit intra-frame sampled @4:2:2, the 8-bit Canon coding would need to be 4:2:2 to be close to the 90Mbs claimed on the Canon specs.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Is the 5DM3 better for video?
« on: March 07, 2012, 11:52:35 AM »
See there's your mistake, thinking that the fact that he had a C300 made ANY difference in the story whatsoever.  In video the story is 100x more important than the camera.  You can't just give someone an Alexa and expect that to make the story, it absolutely will not.  People would much rather see a good movie with lower resolution than some piece of garbage shot on a really high end camera.

I think my point was two fold: 1. Take a cheap shot at an overrated photographer. 2. Point out that he is criticizing (on specs alone) a camera that he hasn't used.

As to your point: On a personal level I could not agree with you more, but I'm not convinced the general public feels this way.

I watched "Downton Abbey" over the weekend, and I swear this show would not be as popular without the Alexa. That camera makes each scene interesting because of the color and detail.  Have you seen it?

EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon D800 vs Canon 5d3 sample images.
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:18:37 PM »
I have the 5d3 preordered, but I do see the soft-ness people are talking about. But I also believe we haven't seen an image from a final version of the camera. There could be a million and one reasons why the pictures are one way or another. Who really knows but Canon is a large org with millions of dollars in R&D /Marketing / Production etc behind this camera and I doubt they would let something released that really would have this big of a problem.

Applying this same reasoning you'd think they'd know how to produce decent samples..

At least that guy from the review above knows how to take a decent shot.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 5DM3 for video?
« on: March 06, 2012, 12:05:10 PM »
^I think it's time we all start calling it the m3  ;D

I'm torn between upgrading to m3 from mkII or making a big lens investment.

EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon D800 vs Canon 5d3 sample images.
« on: March 06, 2012, 12:01:26 PM »
^That's a good one. I still can't believe in the set of samples Canon choose. How can the Japanese be so good at making cameras, but so bad at photography?   

EOS Bodies / Re: Understanding the price increase on the 5DIII
« on: March 05, 2012, 08:58:13 PM »
It costs money to switch over to Nikon. Canon won over a lot of market share with the mkii, so this is one justification (economic) for the price premium over Nikon.

EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon D800 vs Canon 5d3 sample images.
« on: March 05, 2012, 03:02:31 PM »
Look the Canon people chose 4 guys on bikes in a warehouse to showcase their new cannot judge the camera until you see some independant users get their hands on it.

I envisioned Canon engineers being let out of a giant hamster cage ,  then told they have 1 hour to shoot something for the website. And if they don't return and upload the pictures in 1 hour,  their explosive collars will surely detonate.   :o

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