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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 135 f/1.8L IS
« on: August 01, 2012, 05:32:54 PM »
I really like the 135mm f/2.0L, however, I don't use it as much as I used to because it is starting to show its age. The lens isn't much faster focusing than the 85mm f/1.2L II (feels like it has slowed down over a few years) and I think the focusing speed needs to be improved to keep up with the 1DX. 135mm is one my favorite focal lengths for basketball so I'm looking forward to a new model. I don't need the extra 1/3 stop of light or IS but will happily take any improvements I can get my hands on.
Interestingly, this LensRental article published today might just agree with exactly what you wrote


The two newest Canon cameras have more accurate phase-detection sensors than their previous cameras. The newest lenses have more accurate focus movement (or provide more accurate focus movement feedback, or both) that takes advantage of those sensors. Older cameras don’t have accurate enough AF sensors to take advantage of the new lenses’ capabilities.  Older lenses can’t move their focusing elements with enough accuracy to take advantage of the new cameras’ accurate sensors.
So, a lens might appear to slow down if you've upgraded bodies over time, or, if you've gotten a newer lens  that pairs better with a newer body. The 135L being a 1996 lens would suggest that's likely, and so an upgrade to it might make an already fast lens even faster.

Lenses / Re: Canon EF 135 f/1.8L IS
« on: August 01, 2012, 03:32:49 PM »
Looks fake to me too.

It looks like a merger of current 100L Macro and 24-70 f/2.8 L USM II.
But, who's to say that it won't end up looking like a merger of the two. It's likely to have the same IS system as the 100L, and if they are moving it to f/1.8 from f/2, it might need a larger front element (thus the 82mm). In fact, any new 135L would probably look really similar to the 100L based on the focal length.

I agree it looks photoshopped, but, the reason its a believable one is because the lens will probably look very similar.
maybe some dudes will fleabay their Mk.1's and we can get them at nice prices...
They are already at nice prices. That said, if Canon releases a new one at $2000+, you won't get the Mk. 1 for very cheap. If anything, it'd increase the prices as everyone who wanted a 135L can't afford the $2k and will settle for the Mk1 at $1000ish...rather than the $800ish they go for now.

I'd say $1700 for the new 135L, but, IS might push it up a little more

EOS Bodies / Re: Pull the trigger on a 60D? Pricing...
« on: August 01, 2012, 10:15:37 AM »
Thanks for that info, that is a heck of a deal!  I'm trying to weigh out the pros and cons to buying a refurb.  I understand they can be scuffed up a little, and you could end up with a camera with a shutter count of 5 or 10,000... you just don't know what you're going to get.  Which makes it difficult to make a decision.
Well, I am currently using my refurb 60D that I got nearly a year ago. Mine came in great shape (about 200 shutter count), and that is generally how they come. In that year, where I feel like I've used it a lot, I've added about 9,000 to that shutter count. That includes multiple time lapses and a two-week long photo trip in Glacier. The shutter is rated to 100,000 actuations, so, theoretically, I can use my camera just as heavily for 9 more years and still be good to go.

So, while its nice to get one with 50 instead of 5,000; in reality, you're talking something that has a life that is much, much longer than that. I'd recommend getting an extended warranty or insuring your gear, just in case, and then you don't even need to worry about what kind of shutter count it has

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is this a good time to buy 1D X?
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:07:53 AM »
The 1Dx is the most advanced camera canon has produced to date. If it doesn't satisfy your needs, I doubt any camera could.
Except if its gonna fail on you for the entire trip, then its a big risk to take when you won't be able to exchange it.

See this thread for examples: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8158.30

Personally, I'd wait until Canon acknowledges the error and fixes it, that way you can avoid getting the error. But it sounds like resetting the camera to factory defaults can be a workaround if it acts up. If you're willing to deal with the potential hassle of resetting, then the benefits (insanely fast AF, awesome low-light, etc) could be worth it

EOS Bodies / Re: Upgrade from my T3i Need Advice!!
« on: July 30, 2012, 10:33:33 AM »
I sold my T3i because it was lacking in autofocus speed, and build quality (not weatherproof, etc) and @Mt Spokane Photography I would buy a 1D series but i only have $2100 to spend!!
Yeah, then I think you would likely find the rumored Canon full-frame to be a little lacking based on build; the rumors were that it was going to be more plastic than metal in the body, so probably similar to say a 60D build quality. I'd be surprised if it was as weatherproof as the 7D body.

So, you'd get the AF of the 7D, and the benefits of full-frame, but probably not the build. If you liked the video the T3i provided, but not the pictures, than the 7D is probably your answer. If you didn't like the video, then you're probably looking at saving up more and getting a 5dIII

Portrait / Re: Heat Wave! 100 Liters of water + model + sunshine....
« on: July 29, 2012, 11:50:15 AM »
looks kind of overexposed to me
I was thinking the same thing, but, my guess is that its just the reflector side being very bright compared to the other side. The concept is great, just seems like you lost some face detail with the reflector light being bright.

Not the easiest conditions to nail exposure though, and the overexposure is only there when you look closer

I'd opt for the T4i and the 40mm STM pancake lens and / or  18-135mm STM lens.  This is the first Canon DSLR that will autofocus while doing video, and it is designed to work with the STM lenses which have relatively silent AF motors.
The T3i is not optomized with these lenses.  It won't autofocus while doing video, so spending money on a AF lens for video is a waste, no matter which.
If you're an actor and making movies, you won't be using that AF anyway, as its not any better than pressing the shutter button and letting the camera hunt for focus. Everything is manual focus; they reason to get lenses that AF is if you plan on using the camera for stills as well.

I'll agree with others; get the T3i, get the Samyang lenses, learn to MF and expect a steep learning curve. If you're going to be doing just video work with the camera, start researching legacy lenses (Contax-Zeiss, Nikon AI, etc) as they are much cheaper than the modern Canon equivalents, and they work just fine with adapters for narrative video work.

When you are looking at lenses, you're not looking for what stills people look for. The 50mm f/1.8 has great IQ for its price, but its the worst lens Canon makes for manual focusing, which makes it hard to work with for video. The 40mm has the same limitation (tiny focus ring). That's where the Samyang lenses are so great

EOS Bodies / Re: A New 100-400 & Coming Announcements [CR2]
« on: July 25, 2012, 09:02:05 AM »
I hope for a new 300 f/4 or 400f/5.6 but i doubt if the 100-400 f/4-5.6 is as good and sharp as the 70-300 f/4-5.6 !
Yeah, I think the new 100-400 is going to be the replacement for both the old 100-400 and the 400 f/5.6, as CR mentioned as much a while back.

Either way, updates to the non-f/2.8 300mm and 400mm lenses would probably put them more in the $2000-2500 retail space, which kind of kills their market anyway. Seems like the just over $1000 L lens marketplace is gonna be disappearing over the next few years

Lenses / Re: 40mm f/2.8 or 50mm f/1.4
« on: July 24, 2012, 05:27:19 PM »
My L lenses are 17-40 f/4 and 70-200 f/4 and i need a fast prime for shallow DOF other than 100mm f/2.8.

85mm on a APS-C sensor is a little bit long (not a big difference from my 100mm)
You sound like the perfect candidate for something like the 35mm f/2, or the 28mm f/1.8. They each would give you 2 stops over your zoom in that range, but also a different perspective than the 100mm. I think you might find a 50mm and 100mm to leave you without a wide low-light option. When "people" is more than 1 person, both the 50mm and 100mm will be too close, in a way the 28 or 35 wouldn't.

The 28mm would hold up if you ever moved to full frame, though the 35mm would probably be a little lacking (40mm would be sharper and the light gathering negligible).

So, I'd say either the 28mm f/1.8 for group stuff....the Sigma 30mm if you know you'll stay APS-C...or the 50mm f/1.4 if you rarely shoot more than one person

EOS Bodies / Re: could the new EF-M mount support FF sensors too?
« on: July 24, 2012, 10:14:14 AM »
The enigmatic individuals who'd prefer to spend their money on a FF mirrorless rather than a 5Diii would only want small, high quality primes specifically designed for the body.  They're not concerned with DSLR usability. Their driving desire would be unparalleled image quality.
This is a fair point, but, it begs the question of how many people like this their truly are. Because to get that IQ, you'd be talking a new body design, a new sensor, all new lens designs, and those costs have to be spread out among all potential buyers. Would Canon see it as worth it, making a system that's gonna cost as much as their 1-series cameras and cost nearly as much as Leica? Or is that more the role of niche companies to fill, especially if compatibility with EF/Canon equipment isn't crucial. Then again, it's probably not even as small a market as the $20k cine camera market that Canon just entered with the C300 and that series, so who knows.

Being able to use EF lenses on a mirrorless is I'd say a bigger issue since its questionable how large the market for dedicated quality mirrorless lenses is, you look somewhere like amazon and sales of everything but 1-2 pancakes and budget telezooms are very very low indeed compaired to SLR lenses.
To this, I'd agree that that audience isn't as large as say, the wedding photographer audience, etc. But, there are a lot of adventure photographers (think extreme sports, Nat Geo, etc) who would eat up the size of a mirrorless camera if it could match the performance of even the current 5dIII. Much easier to carry an NEX-7 and a pancake in the pocket of your ski jacket, or back of your kayak, then it is to carry a DSLR.

Of course, the demands of those activities are exactly where mirrorless is falling short at the moment (AF performance, handling of difficult light, etc). But when they figure it out, thats a target audience that won't turn back to DSLR's, because size and weight are critical on multi-day, and the only reason they are using DSLR's now is because its what works.

Again, this is a niche market though, so I'm not sure I'll see Canon as the first company to fill that need. Especially when Sony seems to be about 5 years ahead of them in that market

Lenses / Re: EF-M 22mm pancake, 18-55 IS STM
« on: July 24, 2012, 09:55:01 AM »
I wonder - will Canon give us similar lenses with EF or EF-S mount? Or, is there any physical possibility someone will hack together an adapter mount to retrofit EF-M on EF-S APS-C cameras?
Well, that adapter would either have to

a. Physically put the lens inside the camera body, and in the case of the 22mm lens, probably put a decent portion actually inside the traditional EF mount. It has to make up for 10+mm of flange distance...not an easy task

b. Use glass to distort the image from the lens to match the EF style. So, now you're talking an adapter that is either really expensive (think $3-400+), which negates the point of using those lenses (you can get a legacy 28mm f/1.8 cheaper). Or, you're talking a $30 adapter that ruins your image quality because they use crappy glass

So, I wouldn't expect an EF-M to EF adapter. More likely, you'll see people realize that EF-M means they can potentially use the same legacy glass that Sony E-mount cameras can, which means there is a lot of older, cheap but great lenses they can have instead

EOS Bodies / Re: No Full Frame EOS-M EVER?
« on: July 24, 2012, 01:02:26 AM »
Sony is coming out with several more APS-C sized E-mount lenses, but for a FF NEX they'd have to create yet another whole series of lenses.  Unlikely.
Yep, like I said in one of the other threads, to pull off a full-frame mirrorless, companies either would have to use their DSLR mounts (meaning the camera's aren't much smaller, negating size advantages), or they'd have to release an entire system of lenses that can match the current DSLR offerings. And since it's taken decades for Canon and Nikon to do that DSLR wise, I can't see anyone nailing that side of things in the immediate future.

I do think Sony would be the first to make a full-frame mirrorless, because they have a reason to innovate that Canon/Nikon don't, but they'd have some really tough choices to make to get there

EOS Bodies / Re: could the new EF-M mount support FF sensors too?
« on: July 24, 2012, 12:58:58 AM »
Existing EF lenses might have their images come out in a different way (they might be "fatter" at the point of the mount - leading to loss of image / vignetting at the edges.  They might not be 100% compatible with a FF EF-M mount.  But they would still work in crop mode.
Except you've now destroyed the point of a full-frame mirrorless camera. Who is spending $1500-2000 (or more) on a camera that can't even work with their existing EF lenses with an adapter? Where they can still only get APS-C quality out of their L lenses.

It would require Canon to create at least a dozen L quality EF-M lenses, comparable to the EF versions, releasing before or at the same time as the full frame mirrorless...and customers that wantt to spend the extra money for all new lenses as well. By that point, it might not even be genuinely cheaper than a Leica system, because it'd be such a niche product they'd have to charge a premium.

It's why I'm not sure I see a full-frame mirrorless anytime soon. The current systems don't quite match DSLR usability, and the only way Canon could really pull it off would be to make it EF mount, which means the size advantage would be fairly limited as well.

Lenses / Re: Which to keep? EF 70-300 IS USM or 70-200 4L IS USM
« on: July 23, 2012, 10:38:07 AM »
Consider selling the 70-300; keeping the 70-200 f4L then adding a 300 f4L (which you can get that used for under $1000).
That would kind of defeat the purpose of downsizing, especially since it'll cost more.

I'll agree with the 70-300L suggestion if the downsizing is just literally to have less gear, and not to recoup some money as well. If there are monetary considerations, then its a different story.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M Specs
« on: July 22, 2012, 05:05:53 PM »
1. With any lens, it is not pocketable.
2. Requires company to make an entirely new set of lenses on a new mount.

What kind of customer is best suited for this niche?
The same one who is suited for a G1x or the entry DSLR really..its smart for companies because its still a small form factor that makes it convenient to travel, but you can milk customers for money on lenses in a way you can't with the G1x.

Maybe in 5 years Canon will actually have the mirrorless thing figured out and I'll be interested, but, with all the likely problems of a first time system on top of the usual problems for early adopters, I think it'll be best to wait and see how it turns out.

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