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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina
« on: Today at 08:46:56 AM »
If what we posted turns out not to be true, it will be the greatest hoax of specs that I have seen in the 6 years we’ve been around.

But it could still be 20.2 and be a new improved sensor (not identical), what you've posted still true and for you not to have been hoaxed though, no?

I remember voices from past Canon Rumors claiming different prototypes were around, couldn't it be the leaked specs are a mix of several different "experiments"?...

The good news is that if it is a totally new sensor, it may be much better than the 70d and it will have better high ISO noise at 20.2 than 24 mp. Im all for a smaller sensor in aps-c. Truthfully, I wish it was closer to 12 or 16. We'd have a killer crop camera!

Partly agreed.  As I said in Don Haines' poll thread, either a low res/good high ISO IQ old tech sensor, or a high res/supposedly better high ISO IQ new tech sensor would do for me. I put better high ISO IQ than the 7D on top of the specs in order of importance, otherwise to me it's 70D or 80D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you planning to purchase a 7D2
« on: Today at 06:03:59 AM »
I haven't read this thread yet, just voted and now I'm writing this, I'll post and then read all.

I voted "No, unless it exceeds what is expected", of course meaning what the rumor on the specs says. But I'm going to buy a Canon APS-C camera anyway. Should the sensor, and therefore IQ to some extent, be the same of the 70D (or of the 80D which will probably follow soon), there's no compelling reason for my needs to want more, except maybe weather sealing: 8 fps should be enough, coming from a 5D2 which didn't allow me to shoot birds, wildlife and sports: I'll be a beginner in those departments, I've tried just for fun, but my keeper rate was ridiculous, due also to lack of a proper focal length.

I resolved not to be an early adopter this time and to wait for the price to lower a bit since I also need a longer lens, my longest at present is 300 mm, not enough, and I'm budget limited.

I had great expectations on the 7D replacement as concerns IQ, and also in all the other compartments TBH, but I put IQ on top. Unlike te majority here, I'd gladly sacrifice resolution in order to have a considerable advantage in high ISO IQ over the 7D. Craig says he's "90% confident these are accurate EOS 7D Mark II specifications": I'm hoping that 10% remaining includes sensor specifications and FPS :). Either 15-16 MP with the old sensor tech and a crazy 12-14 FPS, or 20-24 MP with a brand new sensor and 10 FPS: both options would do for me. Otherwise, like I said, it's 70D or 80D.

Reading the thread on the specs was fun, 51 pages, wow! But it was also bittersweet pain and pleasure, I stayed out of that, some of you guys should calm down a bit sometimes.

I'm going to post this and read this thread now, cheers!

And peace!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: Canon EF 180mm f/3.5 DO Macro
« on: July 29, 2014, 06:10:26 AM »
The 400 and 70-300 DO are 13 and 10 years old, respectively. Moreover, they were the first of their kind to appear as photographic lenses (I think, as far as I recall, were they actually?). So why do we assume the new DO lenses, should they ever hit the shelves, will have the same IQ issues of their predecessors? IMHO, along with a higher price as compared with their non-DO counterparts, if any, they will offer much better IQ than the previous generation of DO lenses.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Announcement September 5, 2014?
« on: July 07, 2014, 03:46:01 PM »
 :) ;) :D ;D 8) :P  :-*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« on: June 19, 2014, 12:52:18 PM »
I think CR guy knows more than he's reporting. C'mon Craig, tell us something more!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Mirror flip speed limit?
« on: June 14, 2014, 01:09:44 PM »
[...achieving a speed equal or even better than the 1Dx in an APS-C-sized DSLR represent a much smaller engeneering effort than that required for FF since the mass of moving parts (mirror and shutter) involved is approx 1/3 of a FF camera, so much less inertia and, consequently, less energy required.
Would anyone familiar with mirror flip physics care to speculate on what the maximum achievable (and durable)frame rate might be?  (Speaking APS-C size mechanics only, disregarding processing speed  ;) )
I would, if I were familiar with maths and physycs, but unfortunately I'm not. Apart from the logical statement that moving a small mass requires less energy than moving a bigger one, I can't produce mathematical evidence of this. But I think the maximum 'achievable' frame rate, disregarding processing speed, could be higher than the maximum 'convenient' (or 'applicative') frame rate since, as you mention yourself, durability kicks in, together with image quality degradation due to vibration. I think a 'theoretical' burst at 25 fps would possibly introduce an unacceptable amount of vibration blur.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 14, 2014, 12:44:12 PM »
do the Magic Guys have to begin again from scratch every time they 'assault' a new model or can the previous work be transferred, in the form of pieces of code or at least expertise, from one camera to another?

No, the basic ML codebase stays the same and is very mature by now - i.e. integrating with Canon DryOS as far as setting props and memory allocation is concerned. The 7d1 has a unique catch though which might also apply to the 7d2: real dual digic-processing (and not just offloading the af to a digic).

That's the reason the 7d1 port didn't get started for some years as it wouldn't boot at all, and even now some features don't work at all. In general, my estimation is one year from "Hello World" on a newer camera to a release which has been tested enough so everything works w/o hiccups. *If* a maintainer for the camera is found, and that's not very likely since it's an unpaid job requiring months of man-work. Btw the 6d is unmaintained right now (but somehow working), and so is the 100d (not working at all).
Thanks a lot!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Mea Culpa! - The World Cup in Brazil
« on: June 13, 2014, 10:24:53 AM »
Pity about Fred's cheating and Neymar dirty play though.
Indeed!
Wonder just how many togs were at that game, the entire pitch seemed to be surrounded by them. How do they all earn a living with such saturation?
Well, it's the FIFA World Cup...   Rather, how do they not intertwist and tangle with each other, clumped and compressed as they are in such a tiny space! Looking at them it seems impossible not to bump and push others as they follow the action.

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EOS Bodies / Re: re
« on: June 13, 2014, 09:10:21 AM »
...IMO, the most critical thing that absolutely must be present is an appreciable increase in IQ / reduced noise.

...we need better noise performance at reasonable ISO's from 1000+ which is commonly needed for wildlife shooting.

... I will be ecstatic if there is increased IQ / reduced noise.

...If, on top of an IQ increase, they could squeeze a few more MP in, I would not complain.
Welcome to CR! I wholeheartedly agree, and voted 'other'. The only specs that matter to me are related to IQ and FPS, so my wishlist is limited to:

1-2 stops better high ISO performance over the 7D (even at the expense of resolution if necessary), and

12-16 FPS (yes, equal or better than the 1Dx).

Before you label me as heretic, I would like to underline that achieving a speed equal or even better than the 1Dx in an APS-C-sized DSLR represent a much smaller engeneering effort than that required for FF since the mass of moving parts (mirror and shutter) involved is approx 1/3 of a FF camera, so much less inertia and, consequently, less energy required. This is entirely possible, and concern about possibly eating the flagship's sales is BS: I imagine a lot of 1Dx owners buying a 7DII to complement their flagship. Plus, amateurs like me, who cannot afford (or justify) the financial effort for a 1Dx and related big white glass, could finally deal seriously with sports and wildlife for less than half the cost of FF. In addition, should Canon lose a bunch of 1Dx sales, that would be largely compensated by selling other Canon gear in the form of 7DII.

On a side note, the high MP option of APS-C is already here: it's called 70D, and at this point, given the turnover of the xxD line, the 80D is not even so far away after all.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 12, 2014, 02:37:06 PM »
Knowing Canon, they will take great care not to deliver a "mini 1dx" at 1/3 of the price that even works better for wildlife in good light because of the gain in reach.
I hope and fear at the same time that if Canon deliver a true mini 1Dx, it will be priced around 1/2 of the current 1Dx price, which means approx as much as the 5DIII at release date. At this price tag it wouldn't eat away 1Dx sales by much.

Whatever comes, I hope all the hard work carried out by the ML guys on the 7D will be in some way profitable for the 7DII firmware hack, too. You're quite The Expert among CR members on this matter, so please excuse my ignorance, but I'm curous and have to ask: do the Magic Guys have to begin again from scratch every time they 'assault' a new model or can the previous work be transferred, in the form of pieces of code or at least expertise, from one camera to another?

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:37:44 PM »
At my own risk, let me add - and let the bashing begin! - that I'd be happy to see fewer and better MP than the 7D along with FPS equal or higher than the 1Dx.

To me, more pixels means better image quality (yes, including noise performance)
At base ISO or low ISO settings yes. At high ISOs, I respectfully disagree. There's a reason the 1Dx has the best (to my eye) IQ of all the DSLRs available to date (yes, better than any Nikon I think): its 18 MP FF sensor. And there's a reason why Canon developed a prototype sensor with photosites 7.5 times larger than the 1Dx: to capture quality video in candlelight (candledrkness sounds better, though). Don't know if you remember, but check these:

http://www.canon.com/news/2013/mar04e.html

http://petapixel.com/2013/09/13/canon-debuts-exciting-prototype-sensor-exceptional-low-light-capability/

Nice thread, too bad I have to quit now, see you later guys!

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 01:36:20 PM »
One of the main reasons that I use APS-C is that they are smaller and lighter than Full Frame cameras. Why would I want a gripped body that is larger and heavier than a 5D3 ??? Makes no sense to me, therefore a Deal Breaker..
I used to think the same.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13390.msg241020#msg241020
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15327.msg278841#msg278841

Lately, I'm reconsidering my preferences due to the many valid reasons voiced by other CR members in the above linked (and other) threads; not that those of the ungripped body camp aren't valid reasons, either. At present I'm 50/50, both options display advantages and disadvantages. So it seems I won't be disappointed in any case.

At my own risk, let me add - and let the bashing begin! - that I'd be happy to see fewer and better MP than the 7D along with FPS equal or higher than the 1Dx. Overoptimism on my side? Maybe, but I don't think so. I'm awaiting for this baby weanling unicorn to finally deploy its wings, come on!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 12:32:49 PM »
I cannot see how the body size has any effect on the IQ but does the bigger battery allow the larger telephoto lenses to move faster?  Would a battery grip have the same effect?

Short answer: yes and yes (with 2 batteries).

Note that if you put 2 x LP-E6 batteries in the grip, the available power (wattage, i.e. voltage x current) is still lower than a single  LP-E4N battery, but the difference is not big enough to expect a significant difference in focusing speed.

Check this long thread, a lot of what we are talking here has been already extensively discussed there:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13390.0


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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 11:24:37 AM »
If this is in a 1D body with built in battery grip, I can see a lot of enthusiasts disappointed. When the 80D or 90D comes out, they'll say that is what the 7D2 should have been.

Oops! You beat me for a couple of minutes... As you said, I would have been disappointed in the past, but honestly I must say I'm changing my mind as time passes, despite what I had said in prevous discussions. Anyway, the assumptive departure of the mode dial only suggests a higher chance for an integrated battery grip, I can't think of a valid reason for a non-gripped body not to sport an EOS 1-type top plate.

Pop-up flash: I like, IR flash triggering should be there in this case, but radio? Having both options would be really great.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 11:03:23 AM »
So, if this CR1 is true, should we expect an integrated grip body? I wouldn't dislike, though I've always been saying I'd prefer a non-gripped 7DII. Actually, the more I think about this (also re-reading some old threads on the topic), the more I appreciate the gripped option. The 1-style top plate points towards an integrated grip.

On a side note, this time I resolved not to be an early adopter, but really I don't know if I'll resist...

Can't wait for more reliable rumors!

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