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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Leica M 240 vs 5D III vs Nikon D800
« on: January 30, 2013, 02:41:52 AM »
Have you considered the Sony RX1? I'm really impressed with it's performace and if you like 35mm, it's perfect. It's low light is outstanding, and the lens was just rated as one of the sharpest lenses on any camera system(forget where i read that a few days ago.)
You can probably pick one up for around 2500 bucks these days if you look around.

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this is really cool. it's like google earth, but with more detail. i'll be checking this out all day.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: MTF Chart for New Nikon 800mm f/5.6
« on: January 30, 2013, 12:25:11 AM »
i really don't know how to read MTF charts either... but I saw this one and definitely noticed a difference from other lenses.
anyone have any more insight in to what this actually means?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Where are you EOS 70D?
« on: January 24, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »
Wow... Sad news for Canon fans. If the 70D has the same sensor as the 60D and similar AF, then it will truly be a waste of an upgrade.
As has been said beforee, the 7D is ancient by now(2009!) and badly needs an upgrade.
If Canon releases any other cameras over 800 dollars with that same 18MP sensor it will be ridonculous.
This is why I switched, I got tired of the same glacial change and ultra high introductory pricing of Canon products.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d
« on: January 18, 2013, 03:11:13 AM »
Rockwell Sociopath?! No!
Just a guy trying to make an almost honest buck preying on the weak and the confused.
why do people hate Ken Rockwell so much.
Who cares?
 His advice isn't the best, but he is fairly consistent overall. I like having one place, with one person who reviews everything from the same perspective. When i'm bored, or need some general info about a different lens or a quick place to find out some specs and a general review, it's a good resource to have. His downloadable PDF guide to the Nikon D700(and AF) is awesome. I have it on my Kindle and read the whole thing. I've never bought or sold anything based on his reviews and have never used one of his links to buy anything. I don't see how he is preying on anybody. I honestly don't really like him, but I have zero reason to be angry or passionate about anything he's done.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 07:00:55 PM »
ANOTHER incremental update to an APS-C Canon Camera? lol
Hearing this, I feel like they will just swap in some new features, swap out some old features, raise the price back up to full retail and call it a day.
If this camera STILL has the ANCIENT 11pt, or 9pt AF I am going to laugh for days.
When the 60D came out, I was expecting a more sexy, 50D style of camera, instead, just a bunch of recycled crap came in the form of the 60D.
If this is the case, I'm guessing the 70D will have the 11pt AF from the 6D with the touchscreen of the rebels with maybe some WIFI or GPS and a little tiny bit of weather sealing(or something of the same ilk.)
Good Luck Canonistas!

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Canon General / Re: Canon Experience Stores Coming Soon [CR3]
« on: January 11, 2013, 08:55:59 AM »
The one in Tsim Sha Tsui in Hong Kong is already open and awesome. They have all the lenses on display, and every camera available out on display, ready to play with. I played with the 1DX and the 5DIII for the first time there almost a year ago. They have all the lenses on display and you can ask to use any lens and body combination you want. I did a test drive of the 24-105 on my 5DC which convinced me to eventually buy it.
Also, the store is up pretty high in a skyscraper, and they have the 400, 500 and 600mm lenses set up on different bodies and tripods to use. Every time I go to Hong Kong I love to step in there and play with all the fun toys!
The only problem is that everything is priced at full retail, so they are definitely not the place to buy things.

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so guys and gals,
who's going to be the first one out there to pre order one of these things?

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Software & Accessories / Re: Black Rapid and dropped camera?
« on: January 07, 2013, 10:21:15 PM »
If you're looking for alternatives to BR, check out the Bos Strap. It attaches to the usual neck strap connector, except only on one side. It is very sturdy and they claim the neck strap lug can hold 150lbs.
The Bos Strap is also about half the price of the BR.
I really really wanted to just buy the BR and not worry about it, but I couldn't get the idea of the screw coming unscrewed out of my mind. I feel like when i'm walking I would constantly be checking to make sure the camera didn't spin and loosen from the screw connector. Additionally, the tripod mount is not how the camera manufacturers intended for their cameras to be held, thus it is not made to support the full load of a camera and heavy lens upside down(at least from an initial design perspective.)

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PowerShot / Re: Canon Announces The PowerShot N
« on: January 07, 2013, 09:48:22 PM »

He slams the 5DIII as an upgrade - in what world is the 5DIII not a decent upgrade to the 5DII?  Yes, the 5DIII has DR capabilities (and IQ) equivalent to 5DII, but if it's crap, why are he and his friends still using it?  I contend that the thing about the 5DII that didn't need upgrading was the IQ - and Canon did a great job with AF, frame rate, dual slots, sealing, etc., i.e., everything else.
The 5DIII is an ok upgrade to the 5DII. In terms of what matters to me, the 5DIII basically is a 5DII, except with a vastly superior AF. They have similar sensors, MP, DR, etc. The 5DII had awesome image quality, when the 5DIII came out, no one was shocked or astounded by how good it was. Rather, we were told that in JPG, we might get 2 stops better ISO, maybe 1 stop better in RAW. I'm sure the 5DIII is better, but it is rather similar to the 5DII image quality wise and I'm not hearing many 5DII owners complaining about IQ compared to the III. In fact, for months after the 5DIII came out, when Nikon fans were showing reflections in eyeballs at full screen and giggling about how good the D800 was, Canon users were complaining about black borders at high ISO, smearing of details, and overly aggressive AA filtering. Now, the firmware is a little better, LR has better tools in place for editing, and now the 5DIII has settled in as a great camera(as the 5DII was.)
However, for me, the 5DIII is what the 5DII SHOULD HAVE been. If the 5DII had the AF of the 5DIII, then it would have KILLED the D700 in every way. Instead, the 5DII was awesome for video, while the D700 was more of a sports camera. If you want video and great skin tones, you went Canon, if you wanted AF you went Nikon(or 1D.) When the 5DII was current, all I wanted was better AF and I would have bought it. Me, and many other people think the 5DII should have had a better AF to begin with. Thus, prior to the 5DIII, all I really wanted was a 5DII with a better AF. However, given time, technology, etc. I thought that this upgrade would come in at a similar price point(every new Macbook pro with better features remains similarly priced to previous models.)
INSTEAD, the 5DIII came in at 1000 dollars more than the 5DII. The most obvious difference is the AF. So, in 4 years of waiting, Canon managed to release a somewhat similar camera to the 5DII, but with the AF the II should have had to begin with, and at a $1000 higher price.
So yes, for me the 5DIII was just an updated II with an inflated price tag. It looked like a great camera, but it should be for $3500!!!
I realize that you love Canon Neuro, but you need to understand that many people want to love Canon and were very disappointed in their products. I was a huge Canon fan for several years, but in the past 2 years got sick of their ridiculously inflated pricing on release(obv not a problem for some people here.)
Yes, the 5DIII was an upgrade, but it didn't come cheap, the price was also significantly higher.


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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Resolution Tests
« on: January 07, 2013, 03:17:19 AM »
The only thing that holds this lens from being an excellent lens is price.  If price goes down to at least $900, then this will become one of the best lenses out there.  I'd buy this as a kit lens with 6D if Canon somehow finds a way to bundle it with 6D.  6D + 24-70 F4 IS for around $2500, I think everyone will be very happy.

+1.  Lower the price and this is perceived as a very good lens.
i agree. I liked the 24-105, but I always wanted something a little more compact to make up for the slow aperture. If i'm going to carry something big around, i'd rather have the F2.8. Thus, if this lens was 800ish, it would be a fantastic FF travel lens. I really like the idea of this lens, I just think that Canon is way off base with their prices.
L glass is cool.
F4 is not cool.
$1500 is a crapload of money. For that price, whatever lens I buy better be cool all the way around, not just because it's small and L.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« on: January 03, 2013, 10:43:40 PM »
A slow, mid range range zoom for $1500 dollars..... let me think...
um.... NO!

I get that this lens will be about 1100 dollars in a year or so, but these initial MSRP's really tick me off. I like to dream about getting newly released products, and am always tempted to be a first adopter. However, when I do dream about getting these shiny new toys, I don't like that dream to end with a steel toe boot kicking me in the balls after looking at the MSRP. All too often recently, Canon has been thrilled to do this to us(5DIII,24-70 2.8II, 35mm 2.0, this lens.)

This is a nice looking lens, mainly because of the size and the macro bonus, but for me, the sweet spot on price is about $800 bucks. F4 for me equals cheap, and this lens ain't that.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: should I sell my 7d?
« on: December 31, 2012, 07:11:41 AM »
if you're considering it already, i'd say go ahead and sell it. The 5DIII is still young in it's life and the 7D is very old, but yet to be replaced. You definitely wont be disappointed in the 5DIII, it's a great camera. I believe the 7D should be replaced very soon(60D as well), and when that happens, the used price will drop.
Personally, i'd sell the 60D and keep the 7D, but hey, it's up to you.

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So, what objective measure would you propose to determine 'better' - bearing in mind that's a rather subjective term. Which is the 'better' candidate in an election?   Heck, even the Green Party Pentax supporters get their own way.  :-X
Please don't drag this in to a political argument(although that was my first thought,) It's way too easy to get people riled up already.

Honestly, I think both Canon and Nikon make excellent products. Some companies make features that appeal to some buyers, some others. I honestly don't think anyone can objectively choose which one is "better." Canon certainly has a better selection of lenses, however at launch their prices have been much higher than those of Nikon the last couple of years.

What I want to know is, what was the market share of 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, etc. On it's own, the market share of 2012 means a little, but if we compare it to the past few years, we may be able to spot some trends which will give us greater insight in to which manufacturer is gaining ground, or losing ground.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Any update to the 60D in next 6months?
« on: December 29, 2012, 08:42:15 AM »
I believe the 7D was being sold for 999.99 a few days ago. You can get a used one or a refurb from Canons Customer Loyaltry program for under 1000 bucks.
If the AF of the 60D doesn't bother you, then i'd get a used 5D Classic for around $650 bucks or a used 5DII for hopefully $1200. I greatly prefer FF to crop, but then, you'll need new lenses as well.

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