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i'd say your 5DIII is probably damaged beyond repair. If it still works today, it is only a matter of time before the components break down and the camera becomes garbage.
I'll do you a favor and pay 1000 dollars for it for parts.
no need to thank me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: August 05, 2012, 09:37:25 AM »
I am tired of Canon offering similar or inferior products to Nikon and pricing them significantly higher.

...you mean, like featherweight Big Whites, the TS-E 17 and 24 II, the MP-E 65, the built-in radio flash ETTL triggers, the entire Cinema line, the 12 FPS 1DX...?

Get a grip, man. Nikon's got a marginal advantage on one aspect of one feature of their cameras -- one that even comes with far more substantial image quality problems than it "solves" (color balance problems especially).

Sure, Nikon ekes out an extra stop or two of shadow recovery in scenes with truly miserable light. And if you make your living shooting in truly miserable light and you really need ISO 400-equivalent noise in your four-stops-pushed shadows as opposed to ISO 1000-equivalent noise, then maybe the D800 really is best for you.

But don't kid yourself into thinking that Nikon's making better cameras, let alone a better camera system. The stop or two of "extra" noise in the Canon shadows notwithstanding, the 5DIII blows the D800 out of the water. Color rendition, autofocus speed, autofocus reliability, framerate -- all those things that separate a modern camera from a Brownie, the Canon has the D800 beat hands down.

Cheers,

b&
No one is arguing that Nikon has a more complete system than Canon. Heck, I bought in to Canon's system by choice just a few years ago.
If I needed tilt shift or exotic zooms I'd most likely get Canon at this point. However, I am simply an amateur enthusiast who wants some competetively priced awesome performing fast primes, zooms and the occasional new body.
The new Canon primes aren't particularly fast(2.8: 24mm, 28mm, 40mm,) and 2/3rds of these are extremely expensive for what they are. The new Nikon primes have been 1.8 and similarly priced if not cheaper(no pancake.)
I like the 5DIII, but I think it is very overpriced. I love the 24-70 II, but I think it's very overpriced as well. The 1DX is 800 dollars more expensive than the D4 and I'm not hearing many people with a D4 complaining.
The D7000 kills any APS-C Canon camera in terms of image quality and DR, and it is much cheaper than a 7D.
I know there are other variables than what I have mentioned, but for me, a person who travels constantly, shoots for fun, likes to save money and travel as light as possible, the last year of following Canon has been a lot of bad news.
Anyone talking about exotic glass, tilt shifts and 1DX's obviously is pretty deep in whatever system they have chosen and are likely to not be a candidate for switching to the dark side. A high priced, high MP camera is made exactly for a person with these lenses and fully entrenched in the system. But I am very skeptical of Canon being able to make a sensor better than the current Sony sensor in the D800. If the price ends up being where it is rumored to be at now(i remember hearing 4K, or north) then it will just be another in a string of products which are more expensive than competitors. I hope this trend doesn't continue.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: August 04, 2012, 11:27:16 PM »
This camera sounds like the D800, but without the DR. I imagine the hardcore Canon crowd will be happy to have a high MP offering available, however I don't see this turning out well for Canon unless it is priced around 3k.
 I know some of the fanboys will buy this for 3500 or even $6k, but for those who are not heavily invested in glass, this will just be another slap in the face unless it is priced competitively with the D800. I am tired of Canon offering similar or inferior products to Nikon and pricing them significantly higher.
the 5DIII was the first that hit home, then the 24-70 II, and now, if this is any more than the 800, it will simply be similar MP(lesser sensor quality, unless there's a miracle) but at a much higher price.
Sounds like Canon fanboy material only to me.
If it is going to be more than $3k, it should be insanely good, total pro style, no holds barred.

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congrats on the award and recognition!
that is awesome that you got to meet the President! Definitely a once in a lifetime type experience.
It's also interesting to hear the rundown from a camera gear perspective(not an often occurrence.)
Your Dad must have been thrilled!

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did you use the body? or just carry your gear around in pieces? if you did this where I lived(Chongqing, China), the camera would be filled with construction dust in about 15 minutes.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another Full Frame Camera? [CR1]
« on: July 25, 2012, 09:32:01 PM »
I don't understand how a "slower 1DX" at 4000 dollars is supposed to compete against a D800 for 3000 dollars?
I'm sure die hard Canon users will be happy to have a high MP offering to choose from, but from an outside observer Canon seems to be about a year behind Nikon and with a significantly higher price(and lower DR.)
As a Canon user, the news lately isn't exciting, more just depressing as Canon seems to mostly be matching Nikon's products a year later and at higher prices.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No Full Frame EOS-M EVER?
« on: July 24, 2012, 01:26:32 AM »
depressing is right....
If Sony needs a whole new lens system for a FF NEX, why are there so many rumors about Pro Nex 9 or Nex11? I guess there's just a lot of uninformed people out there.
Perhaps Fuji is the best bet. Any chance of a FF Xpro? or would that need a new mount too?
I just don't understand the point of creating a whole new mount/system which will be constrained by one sensor size for eternity.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No Full Frame EOS-M EVER?
« on: July 23, 2012, 11:45:27 PM »
Read some of the other EOS M threads.  its been discussed already, and DPR is not wrong.
i've read all the other threads.... but no one seemed to care very much...
I was considering pre ordering this one and upgrading later to the FF model. But this totally killed it for me. I love Canon and want to be their customer, but they are either pricing me out of the market(5DIII, 24-70 II) or just disappointing me lately. I don't understand how you can create a whole new system and lens mount with no room for upgrading the sensor at all. APS-C is great, but it isn't the pinnacle of photography.
I am really disheartened as it seems that Canon expects anyone who wants top quality images to be willing to spend 5k on gear.
I don't think is a reasonable price in this day and age. If I was a professional photgrapher i'm sure i'd feel different.
I will wait and hopefully the NEX system will drop a FF soon.

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EOS Bodies / No Full Frame EOS-M EVER?
« on: July 23, 2012, 11:36:03 PM »
"The EF-M mount is 58mm in diameter, with a flange distance of 18mm from the bayonet to the sensor. As the image above clearly shows it's matched specifically to the APS-C sensor size. So don't expect a future full frame EF-M mount camera - it's not going to happen."
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m

Haven't seen much discussion of this, but for me this is a huge let down.....
Why would Canon wait so long to enter the game, make a new mount(EOS-M) and then restrict that to only one sensor size, with no hope for future upgrades to the line?
Is DPreview wrong?
The APS-C sensor gave me hope for a FF Leica killer coming someday soon, but now, it seems that this hope is dashed forever. I am a serious traveler and always travel as light as possible(and hopefully without $10k worth of Leica gear,) so I have been eagerly awaiting a smaller than DSLR full frame option....
Who will be the first to make a Full Frame Mirrorless, Sony, Fuji, Nikon?
Whoever does it, I will seriously look in to pre ordering.... but at the moment, all I have to look forward to is the new entry level FF DSLR(D600, or whatever Canon is making.) I really don't want to carry around a 24-70 and DSLR all the way from Asia to Africa(my next trip.)
ugh....

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Coverage of the Canon EOS M
« on: July 23, 2012, 08:24:13 PM »
I was thrilled about this new system until I read that this system will never be able to have a Full Frame sensor because of the size of the EOS-M mount.
That is a huge let down for me and a total bummer. It looks like i'll either be going with a D600 and 24-70, or hopefully a FF NEX or Fuji get's announced soon and makes my bag a little lighter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« on: July 21, 2012, 06:30:22 AM »
If this is indeed APS-C, I'm very intrigued.
The only real problem I see with this camera is no pop up flash and no viewfinder.....
Why does Canon think someone in a mirrorless system is going to want to carry around a seperate flash unit.... I hate that Canon doesn't put pop ups on their DSLR's.
I am also very curious if this EF-M can take FF in the future. Because there is no pop up flash, viewfinder, and the fact that there is sure to be an upgraded specs version of this I will wait to join Canon Mirrorless... but once these things are in FF, I will jump on it instantly.

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EOS Bodies / Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« on: July 19, 2012, 11:54:32 PM »
the angles of the right side of the hot shoe and left side look a little funny to me, as do the angles of the top left and top right of the camera. i guess one side(our left) is sloping down more than the right. If it's a mock up on Photoshop it's pretty good. But i'm not convinced.
For not being retro or a classic rangefinder-esque look, i think it actually isn't that fugly.
But unless it is APS-C or FF, I won't even consider it. If it is FF I will probably pre order it(my dream.)

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Lenses / Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« on: July 17, 2012, 11:38:13 AM »
i have a Sigma 50mm 1.4 and it is awesome. Very solid and pleasant to use for 450 bucks. I definitely wouldn't be in the market for an 850 dollar 50mm.
The pricing of Canon really has me scratching my head lately. If the bodies were expensive and the lenses were cheap I could accept it, or opposite:cheap bodies, expensive glass.
When will we get some really good news?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« on: July 17, 2012, 12:34:47 AM »
I'm a 5DC owner along with a 24-105 and a 50 1.4. I have been wanting better AF and AFMA for a long time now and never wanted the 5DII because of the AF.
I would love a 5DIII, but I believe it is a 2800 dollar camera that after a year of being on the market should be 2500 dollars. I would have preordered for 2800. The new 24-70 lens is very very expensive and this was my main choice for a single travel lens.
After seeing the comparisons between the 5DIII and the D800 I think that the D800 is much more of an improvement in sensor performance over the D700 than the 5DIII is over the 5DII.
From the rumored specs, I think most people agree that the D600 looks better on paper than this new Canon FF camera, especially after the improvements shown in the D800(mentioned above.)
I love Canon, and have been a loyal customer for years, but I am not heavily invested in the system. I don't like the direction of their pricing(one of the reasons I bought them in the first place was the relatively cheaper pricing than the Nikon version(Canon 24-70 I is cheaper than Nikon 5DII was cheaper than D700.) That is not the case anymore.
If Canon makes a FF mirrorless, I will be thrilled and buy it if it is around $3k with a lens.
However, at this moment, comparing a D600 for 1500 and a Canon FF, I will choose the D600. I wish this was not the case, but in my opinion(and based on rumored specs, and sensor performance of their current cameras), the Canon offering is a little low on features, low on sensor performance, and higher in price. I will gladly purchase a D600 and 24-70 for around 3300 dollars than the Canon versions for over 4300 dollars.
My .02 cents.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: 5D Mark II Body Price Drop at B&H
« on: July 09, 2012, 09:18:31 PM »
if you are paying over 2000 dollars for the 5DII at this point you are being royally ripped off. This camera was under 2000 dollars at the same store last year(and before the 5DIII.)

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