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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 22, 2014, 09:47:40 PM »
DPAF and STM are for DSLRs, not cinema cameras.

DSLRs are a lower market than cinema cameras.
Autofocus is not for cinema cameras, just about everything is done in manual. DPAF and STM are for autofocus, therefore DPAF and STM are not for cinema cameras....

My point exactly - DPAF & STM are for the lower end of the two markets.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patents: Canon 85mm f/1.8 IS, 100mm f/2 IS, 135 f/2 IS
« on: January 22, 2014, 01:03:26 AM »
The patent for the 135mm says f/2.8 not f/2
I hope that's not the lens they actually release, although it would save me a ton of money.  Very sad indeed if it turns out to be a f/2.8 lens :'(

There's no assurance this patent will result in a lens sold on the shelves, but if 10 years of digital photography didn't kill the 135mm f/2.8 w/ softfocus, it must sell well enough to justify it's continue production, and even upgrade.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 21, 2014, 12:47:09 PM »
DPAF and STM are for DSLRs, not cinema cameras.

DSLRs are a lower market than cinema cameras.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 20, 2014, 08:22:27 AM »
What will it take for Canon to have a chance of overcoming ARRI?

Well first they'll need to deliver a sensor that has more than 14 stops of DR or least that of the D800.

Trying not to open a can of worms...

As someone noted in the video, Canon could be targeting a different market.

E.g. DPAF and STM shows Canon aims for a lower end market, e.g. parents making videos of toddlers, where people will not follow focus manually. This is not to say I think those technologies work perfectly, only that it tells about a market Canon aims for.

On the other hand, Canon has released cinema cameras with PL mount, and I think Canon would need a better sensor in that market.

So far it seems (at least to me) Canon has made a good compromise, but if it doesn't release sensors with better IQ in the near future, my guess is sales will suffer.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 20, 2014, 02:08:56 AM »
And it would be to Canon's benefit if those real movie cameras are Canon's as well - people prefer to work with familiar brands.

True, which is why Canon should stop trying to make DSLR's into movie cameras and just make a cheaper, true video camera that accepts EF lenses ... something like a C300 lite. Students can then buy these and will prefer using the "professional" versions once working for Universal Studios.

On the other hand, a friend of mine shoots video with 5Dmk2s & mk3s, because that's what his stills-shooting friends have. Along the way he gets to know lenses that impress him, e.g. Sigma 12-24mm, which he liked for how wide it was, and the TS-E 24mm mk2, which he liked for it's colors. He now plans on buying a 5Dmk2 or mk3.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 20, 2014, 01:28:12 AM »
Back to the topic ... This clearly shows that all these movie features in DSLR's are only an interim tool for most serious movie-makers, i.e. a cheaper option for students. As soon as they graduate and start making real movies, they use real movie cameras.

And it would be to Canon's benefit if those real movie cameras are Canon's as well - people prefer to work with familiar brands.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 20, 2014, 01:22:55 AM »
Risking another Wintel-vs-DEC-HP-Sun-etc comparison - getting into movie makers' minds & hearts (read: familiar with and appreciative of the product) before they have money to spend is a great way to make them prefer it when they do have it.

Canon would still need to develop properly spec-ed cameras & lenses for the right price, of course.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 01:16:49 AM »
I think Canon's strategy for the xxxxD line is "keep those manufacturing lines running until we squeeze the last cent out of it".

E.g. Canon had a 12.2MP sensor manufacturing line set up for the 450D, people were willing to pay for it, so why scratch it when that many more dollars can be squeezed out of it?

A 7Dmk2 would probably use a new sensor, so I wouldn't be surprised if Canon released a 1200D with the 7D's sensor, and make the last [maybe not so] few dollars they can make out of it.

Also, there might be a psychological trick here. There's a known trick in restaurants - people feel uncomfortable ordering the most expensive dish, so another more expensive dish the restaurant doesn't plan on selling often is added, increasing sales of the now 2nd most expensive dish significantly. Possibly keeping the bottom of the line model running (at a low cost) helps the sales of the line above it.

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Dear DaveMiko
" I have all the gear I need now."---That many  hours ago when you write this post----BUT Now, Many Hours Later, If Canon make decision for $ 10,000 US Dollars Rebate for 12,500 Us Dollars EF 800 mm= You pay only $ 2500 US Dollars for Brand new Lens----Will you Need this Monster Babe ?
Ha, Ha, Ha, I will buy 4 Of them, and Sell 3 of them Later in Ebay, to make a lot of money.
Just want to have FUN talk with you.
Have a great day, Sir.
Surapon

In Israel, the 800mm costs 60,000+ NIS. A local shop listed the lens, and apparently whomever typed the price dropped a digit, listing it for 6,000+ NIS. Now, by law, shops in Israel are obligated to sell products for whatever price they listed, even if it's clear they've made a mistake.

Yes, I could ordered the EF 800mm f/5.6 at 10% it's price, and the courts would have forced them to deliver the lens at that price, just because an employee missed a digit.

[I know from experience - that law saved me a lot of money as a student. I've abused a local pharmacy so often, one time an employee noticed I was looking at their deals booklet and said "oh, that Dior deal should say 50% off except perfumes". The shift manager's facepalm widened my smile another inch.]

I was nice, and sent them an email to point the typo before someone screws them up. You'd think they'd send a 10 words email to say "thank you for pointing out the typo", but no - they fixed the price w/o any reply.

And that was the last of me they've ever seen.

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Lenses / Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« on: January 11, 2014, 10:12:31 AM »
I wonder about the 50mm lenses.

The 50mm f/1.8 was what the EF-S 18-55mm is today. I guess it's sold because it already covered it's R&D & tooling costs, and people buy it to get a cheap, fast, small lens. Point being the 50mm lens which is in the same class as the 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, and 35mm f/2 is the f/1.4, not the f/1.8

Therefore I would expect Canon to upgrade the 50mm f/1.4, and keep the existing 50mm f/1.8 because it's profitable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the f/1.2 upgraded to give a fair fight to the competition, the f/1.4 upgraded with IS & full ring USM, and the f/1.8 sold on just the way it is.

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Lenses / Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« on: January 10, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »
To be fair, though, the two lenses mentioned here are both rumors.  The actual lenses and their respective apertures haven't been announced yet. 

As for the three non-L IS versions that have been announced, two of them kept the same aperture as their predecessors (24/2.8 and 35/2).  Both jumped in filter size (52mm to 58mm and 67mm, respectively), although Canon doesn't seem to be very concerned with filter sizes any more. 

Only the 28mm dropped from 1.8 to 2.8, which is a shame because a 1.8 with IS would have been a great "normal" lens on crop and would have made a real distinction between the new 24 and 28.  But Canon has kept the original 28/1.8 thus far, so apparently they weren't ready to kill that particular darling just yet, despite the sense it would have made.  Now they have two 28s in the lineup, which sell for about the same amount new, with the only spec differences being aperture and IS. 

Trying to make sense out of Canon lineup decisions is maddening.  For instance, why start putting IS in your wide angles rather than your telephotos???

I think the decision about the 28mm lenses make sense. Canon has two options:

1. Kill both the f/1.8 & f/2.8 versions, and sell a 28mm f/1.8 IS USM. Canon sells only one lens.

2. Upgrade the f/2.8 w/ IS & USM, and keep selling the f/1.8. Canon sells two lenses, one having already covered it's expenses, allowing customers to choose between either a 1+ stop and IS & USM.

More importantly, the 2nd option leaves a wider margin to release an L, e.g. EF 28mm f/1.4 L USM. A lot of people would rather have IS over a fraction of a stop, especially if neither have weather sealing. Make the difference two stops, and things look a lot different.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« on: December 27, 2013, 02:35:26 AM »
1768mm @ f/9 will require a tripod and the best light conditions, so what's the point?

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Lenses / Re: Two New 24-70's Coming in 2014? [CR1]
« on: December 21, 2013, 08:40:10 AM »
I wouldn't be the least surprised by a 24-70mm f/2.8 IS USM. It might have lower IQ than the IS-less' lens, as I think some people would be willing to compromise on price & IQ to get IS for the hand-hold-ability.

As for another 24-70mm, I'm not so sure. If it's f/4 IS-less, how would it compete with the cheap 24-105mm f/4 IS USM? What else could it be?

These comments surprise me, if only because the Tamron 24-70 VC offers exactly what you say people are looking for at a price that already seriously undercuts the Canon non IS version.  I don't personally think that a new version is worth more than the original price point of the 24-70LII unless it offers something more than just IS, particularly if that comes at the cost of higher weight and slightly compromised optics.

Exactly - Tamron is taking sales away from Canon, so I expect Canon to release a lens to compete with it.

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Lenses / Re: Two New 24-70's Coming in 2014? [CR1]
« on: December 20, 2013, 11:22:36 AM »
I wouldn't be the least surprised by a 24-70mm f/2.8 IS USM. It might have lower IQ than the IS-less' lens, as I think some people would be willing to compromise on price & IQ to get IS for the hand-hold-ability.

As for another 24-70mm, I'm not so sure. If it's f/4 IS-less, how would it compete with the cheap 24-105mm f/4 IS USM? What else could it be?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Rumor: Sigma 16-20 f/2 DG Art [CR1]
« on: December 19, 2013, 10:24:09 AM »
4mm of zoom?!

Then again, it's at least a stop faster than Canon's prime at those focal lengths.

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