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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 03, 2012, 03:26:20 AM »
The 3D and 9D items aren't used.  8)

1,3,5D are FF and 7,9D are APS-C, sooner maybe APS-H with APS-C mount.

What do you say about this line-up:
1D the extreme sport shooter
3D a limited 1D without grip
3Ds a limited 1D without a grip but with the highest megapixel sensor.
5D a simple body as you know it already
5Ds a simple body like 5D but with the highest megapixel sensor.

7D an advanced body in all aspects with APS-H with EF EF-S mount and built in crop factor.
7Ds the same advanced body with the highest megapixel sensor.

Now depending on the strategy they'll choose 3 FF bodies and 1 crop.
Isn't that great?!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 02:26:30 PM »
available in april? I dont think so....

and 61 af points? that is not possible. People wont be buying the 1DX then. Id think its something more like 12

With 12pts and 22MP people won't be buying the 5D3 then and remember this needs to seem current until at least 2015 most likely.

I don't need 12 fps, I don't need 36 mpx, I don't many other things.
Do you know I have a 5D2 with only 11 mpx ?! This is because I never use L or RAW, just sRAW1 which is good.
So I need a small megapixel sensor with (READ IT CANON) GREAT DR, GREAT ISO in a simple body with more direct accesible settings (buttons) and a GOOD AF in low light.
How can I use fixed lenses with a poor AF ?!
It's that hard ?!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 02:20:05 PM »
I'll say it again. Even if 5D3 would come with 12 fps like de 1D X they know how to protect their nr.1 They learned a lesson from 1Ds.

I've said that myself, too.  But I'm also considering a different viewpoint - you said it: they learned a lesson from the 1DsIII.  When they released the original 5D, it was spec'd substantially lower than the then-current 1DsII, and the 5D sold well.  When they released the 5DII, it was spec'd lower than the 1DsIII but used the same sensor, and it sold like f'ing gangbusters.  Maybe the lesson they learned from the 1DsIII was to not bother protecting their #1, because a wildly popular 5-series is a cash cow.  It could be argued that Canon is already throwing #1 under the bus -
You're right. The 5D2 was a damn fat cow. I bet even if they wouldn't sold not even 2 1Ds bodies at the succes of the 5D2 they're not upset, by contrary they are happy :D

they had two 1-series bodies to meet the needs of different market segments, then they merged those two into the 1D X, knowing it would not satisfy both previous markets.
I said it earlier, they never emerged 1D with 1Ds. The 1D X is an evolution 1D. The "s" will reborn latter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 02:09:17 PM »
Good morning from Down Under:
My 2c - we are reaching the end of the Bayer sensor tech and the new releases simply need to convince not only with sensors but with extras that we're used to see only in the 1 series. I believe this will happen - makes me sad a bit because in the next four years a new age of sensors and processors will dawn on the market and, well even the best photos from a 5Dx will look ancient...
And that's not all. I'm more curious what will happen with the mirrorless segment. Like it or not this is the trend.
DSLR days are numbered in way.

My dream camera would be a small body like Fuji X pro 1 or Sony NEX or the Next Olympus E-M5 with A FULL FRAME on it. A modern era Leica with fast AF.
Canon's strategy could be the elders thinking. The last will be the first. They'll see what works on the market and they'll make a move. The G1X is only a time buyer.
Nikon surprised me in a bed way with their 1 series, but that's my way of thinking. On top of engineers are the marketing heads. They want $ first.
Oly, Pana, Fuji, now Pentax and again Oly, they got the mirrorless segment where no one has gone before.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:51:59 PM »
There will be 4 FF because the EOS C DSLR is also a FF.
You're right.
Let's make it 5. We'll see the 1D 4K beside the C300.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:46:01 PM »
Lens wise, I hope it arrives with:
24-105/4L IS II (or 24-120/4L IS to match Nikon) for which there were rumors about a year ago that it would arrive with the 5D3
24-70/2.8L II (or IS, or better yet both ways like the 70-200s are) for which there have been endless rumors for MANY years
100-400L II (unlikely) for which there have been space rumors, but I would really like to see get a refresh (mostly coatings and 4-stop IS, perhaps a more traditional twisty zoom)

It's been suggested for a while that the 24-70 II and 35L II will be the new lenses, not sure about the 3rd.  50L II would be nice

The 600 was spoted, the 200-400 too. Even if I'm waiting for the 35/1.4 II that's no place for both the 24-70/2.8 II and the 35/1.4 II.
Choose three of four.  8)
Don't forget it's the Olympics this summer.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:40:18 PM »
available in april? I dont think so....
and 61 af points? that is not possible. People wont be buying the 1DX then. Id think its something more like 12

I'll say it again. Even if 5D3 would come with 12 fps like de 1D X they know how to protect their nr.1 They learned a lesson from 1Ds.
Think only at the buffer level. If 1D X is capable of taking, let's say 100 jpegs in a row because of the buffer at 12 fps and 5D3 will take only 20 shoots at 7 fps and if you're a professional sport shooter, what would you choose ... the speed or the buffer ? In both cases 1D X wins hands down.
Pro AF, dual card slot, higher AF system, those are not cost effective that much.
In the end I think Canon learned from the Nikon strategy: give photographers what they'll need and they'll buy it.

Looking in Nikon's camp I'll bet that D800 and D4 aren't the only ones that we'll see. A D800 with a D4 sensor or something close is on the way. Think only that they are the first that put a small megapixel sensor in a professional body.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:28:50 PM »
@neuroanatomist, i agree with you in nearly everything, but i must stress a fact that  might have passed un-noticed and that is : which studio high-end dslr is canon going to provide to it's customers? It's a good move from canon to hit the entry-level field, but let's not forget that there is professional field to!!!

1D4 & 1Ds3 they never emerged.
1Ds was the highest megapixel body and the toughest. 1DX is in fact the evolutionary 1D to the full frame. They seem to lost the "s". The 1Ds is dead. The "s" will reborn in a new body.

In autumn I'll bet that we'll see a 5Ds or a 3D with specs on par with D800 but maybe with another philosophy. If the D800 is a highend FF, then 5Ds could be a simple body with a higher pixel count. Wouldn't that be what you want ?! The actual 5D2 with 39 mpx and a nicer AF ?! It's that simple.

In the end Canon will have 3 FF bodies in their lineup. Just wait a few months.
I wouldn't be surprise to see two body launches in the next few weeks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:18:54 PM »
If they kill the 7D mk II, they will have my limitless rage! :'( Or sorrow.
Seriously though, they had better not kill the 7D line off!

They won't because 7D mk2 it is the direct competitor for the D400.
The 7D line is thought to be the APS-C high end DSLR. Crop sensors are cheaper to produce those a FF can't replace it and Canon wouldn't be stupid to cut their sales. I'm pretty sure that big money come from smaller bodies not from the highest.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III - February 7, 2012 [CR2]
« on: January 28, 2012, 05:45:59 PM »
If I were Canon the next thing would be a 3D with the specs allready well known.
The next 5D I would make it a high mpx the-same-3D-body.
The price for both would be equal because each have something that the other doesn't: one for high iso and the second high mpx.
If it will not be 3D then I would name those 5D3 and 5Ds and the "s" it won't be lost.
But I would keep 3D and 3Ds for a more advanced body like 1D without the grip weather sealing, high specs and the 5D/5Ds for the accesible full frame body.
At least that was the original 5D a FF high mpx body at a decent price.
C'mon Canon, show it!

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III - February 7, 2012 [CR2]
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:35:59 AM »
Even if it's 7.5 fps the next 5D could have a small buffer and that would make perfect sense given the specs of 1D X. So you can shoot high fps but for a small amount of time and just for a few images.
That 7.5 fps could be with some tricks let's say like small jpegs or with focus locked on.

Those 5D expected specs would make this the first body for the photographers since it's well known that Canon never launched what we wanted.

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