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so in the end the 6D seems to be a 1 AF point camera.... nothing i would buy in 2013 for 2000 euro.   :-X

My thoughts exactly.

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It is possible that Canon is cutting fewer corners than Nikon.

No.

Canon is just overpricing. That's all.

As other posters said, Canon also had issues that they did nor admit.
For example, it took them more than a year to admit the 1D3 focusing issue and provide a fix (which did not work for all, btw).
And the fix for the 'falling 5D mirror' issue was provided after the 5DII was already announced.

To their credit, Canon admitted the 5DII 'black dots' issue right away.
They did the same with the 5DIII 'light leak' issue as well.

The D600 oil/dust issue goes away after a certain number of shots (as shown by LensRentals).
Still, Nikon customers are in their full right to ask Nikon to admit and address the issue.

Overall, both companies have a history of unforeseen issues; no corner cutting.

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I call the 6D the "warmed up 5D2". Slightly microwaved in a BPA-free container ;) Its not a knock on the Camera, when they sell it for $1299 in a year during Christmas, I promise to pick one up :P

+1000

Canon spec'd the 6D as a $1500 camera but wants to sell it for $2099.
Well, not to me  8).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]
« on: December 27, 2012, 05:03:55 PM »
My prediction is that the price will be $1600-1800 in the US.

I predict $1000 "over" that Prediction.

Hmm. You must be one of those who think that the 7DII will be a 1DIV replacement.
Not going to happen, trust me  :P.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Any update to the 60D in next 6months?
« on: December 27, 2012, 02:40:45 PM »
... from what iv read a replacement or 60d-7D amalgamation announcement should be coming soon, however i have no idea when we could expect the product to hit store shelves or its release price.

There's a very good chance that Canon will announce a new 1.6x camera in Jan/Feb.
So, if you wait a few more weeks, you will be in a better position to decide what to get.

You can be sure, though, that whatever gets announced will be more expensive that the 60D.
Also, the 60D price might go up slightly after New Year.

So, if you want the best deal, get a 60D now. Otherwise, wait a little.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MKII Pricing Question
« on: December 25, 2012, 01:22:03 PM »
The 5DII is having a clearance sale right now, as it's been officially discontinued.

I can't predict where the price will go from here but in a couple of weeks the 5DII will be gone for good.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 60D Stock Levels Getting Low?
« on: December 23, 2012, 12:03:37 PM »
There's definitely a new 1.6x camera coming in Jan/Feb.
The question is, which one: 70D, 7DII, or something else?

Before the 6D announcement, it looked as though the 70D was going to be a replacemenet for both the 60D and 7D.
Now it's hard to tell what Canon's plans are.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:59:56 AM »
I'm writing this post mainly to criticize Canon for it's recent outrageous pricing policies, and to simply say that they cannot keep doing what they are doing.

I think we all learned a lesson this year.

When the 5DIII was announced, there was a big outcry on the Internets that it was overpriced.
And yet, you went ahead and bought the 5DIII anyway.
Well, I feel that you got your fair warning - but you chose to ignore it.

Of course I also think that Canon's wacko pricing policy will backfire on them.
Looking forward, many more buyers will be choosing to wait for price drops rather than buying right away.
This will surely have some impact on Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]
« on: December 18, 2012, 05:10:20 PM »
I'm not so certain that Canon will introduce new sensor tech just for an 1.6 ...

You are basically right.

Still, the most practical thing to do when introducing new tech is to put it in smaller sensors first .
In fact, that's what Canon is doing already with the S100/S110/G15 sensor - which is made on new tech.

Eventually, this new tech will make it into DSLR sensors as well.
At that time, it would make the most sense if it's used for 1.6x sensors first.

Of course this is not guaranteed and Canon might have other plans.

To me, though, a 7DII with the same sensor as the 7D is kind of pointless.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]
« on: December 16, 2012, 03:47:11 AM »
It's all speculation at this time, not even rumors.

My prediction is that the price will be $1600-1800 in the US.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: December 13, 2012, 03:54:49 PM »
If the 6D were "so much better" than it really is, and still significantly cheaper than the 5DIII, why would anyone buy the 5DIII? (Or, put differently, why would Canon have released the 6D at all?)   

Well, that's something for Canon to figure out, as they are in the business of selling cameras, not me.
But the 6D should have been better. 

I feel that in their efforts to differentiate it from the 5DIII, Canon ended up compromising the 6D.
That's not smart.

Instead, Canon should have put extra efforts in proper differentiation without compromising the 6D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: December 13, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »
But I wouldn't buy a 2k camera that really doesn't improve much apart from IQ it needs to be across the board, a camera consists of more than just a good sensor.

+1000

Some might consider the 6D to be an entry-level FF camera but it's not an entry-level camera overall.
As you said, when upgrading to the 6D, one would expect upgrades across the board, not just the sensor. 

The 650D, which sells for $599 in the US right now, has an AF system with 9 cross points with a double-cross point in the center.
The 6D cannot even match that - let alone provide an upgrade.
And that's despite the 4x price difference.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: December 12, 2012, 10:36:27 PM »
Please help me understand why people are excited about 6D?

People are finally able to afford the Holy Grail - a full frame DSLR.
They are in awe and even 6D's single-point AF system (effectively) is holy.
It's a blasphemy to speak against it.
8)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D hands-on reviews by many websites..
« on: December 08, 2012, 02:23:36 PM »
Our teachers say, that the 7D Mark 2 starts selling in the end of spring 2013 (in Germany and Austria). But it will be expensive.

That's very interesting.
I’m hearing similar things on other forums as well.
So, it seems that a 7DII announcement is indeed imminent.

I can’t imagine that the 7DII will be priced higher than the 6D.
Canon has done other nonsensical things, though (just look at the 6D AF system  :-*).
So,  who knows.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« on: December 08, 2012, 01:59:14 AM »
There is a very good chance that the 7DII will be announced in January or February next year.
If you can wait that long, you will be able to make a more informed decision.

I fully expect that the 7DII will have an improved ISO performance.
Still, it's hard to believe that it will be able to match the 6D in ISO.

So, if ISO is of utmost importance to you, getting the 6D makes sense even now (especially if you have a FF itch :P).
Good luck.

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