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Yes, turn my 36mp body into a 22mp body in order to make it look better. Thats how DXO rationalizes the high per pixel noise into something usable. Maybe if they resized it to one pixel it would be perfect.
The point is that there is no holy grail, and all the posting being done by those who just read articles and have zero experience with either camera is not very helpful.
Obviously, my D800 can take some amazing images at ISO 100 - 400, but just like the OP notes with his 5D MK III, as soon as you get into shadows and the ISO gets up over 400, you have to be more careful with exposures, and at very high ISO's, the 5D MK III has more DR than the D800.
It takes 6mp to 8mp to make a quality print.
There is some good news out there, though. Have any of you seen the recent series of sample images? I thought for sure someone was going to post the link because they have been there for 36 hours or so, but I haven't noticed anyone mention it yet.
http://www.fotomagazin.de/test_technik/testbilder/detail.php?objectID=6204&class=&thema
If you toggle through the photos at full screen size (not 1:1), it's impossible to tell any difference until beyond ISO 12,800. At 1:1 it is great, no worse than ISO 400 on cameras five-six years ago. The top of the regular ISO range, 51,200, actually does look usable as well--certainly better than 25,600 on the 5D3.
I am so excited because I was still grappling in my mind with the worry that I should have gone with the D4 (I already own complete systems of both Canon and Nikon, so the array of lenses isn't an issue for me).
Perhaps Canon have learnt from Nikon's mistake of early release of the D800 and D4. They have just issued their first firmware upgrade to cure lockups and other issues.
Can you imagine the noise if Canon released the 1DX with those problems. The only hitch with the 5DIII was the non problem of the light leak which was blown out of all proportion.
The D800 issues are real nasty things - I would be sending the D800 back if this happened to me
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11677-12641
Other common declarations:
"There's no way Canon will ever put a 1-series AF system in a 5D3."
"We'll be lucky if Canon puts the 7D AF system in the 5D3."
"Canon will never put the 1Dx's AF system in anything other than a 1Dx."
Welp, Canon proved those claims wrong, addressed the most glaring weaknesses of the 5D2, but now the hot topic is DR and Canon still sucks.
Here's a scenario for you that think they're equal in noise. When you increase pixels you also need to shorten your shutter speed to not show motion blur. I tried the D800 and I had to have at least 1/2500s to freeze a bike messenger I tried outside the shop where I work, that means going to 3200 iso whereas with the 5d3 I had iso 1250 and around 1/1000s, no motion blur on either, but I was over a full stop higher in iso , making the image, of course, more noisy and less DR (that some of you are EXTREMELY conserned about).
Please name ONE thing that was better with the 5d2 than the 5d3?
Come on Canon, go full frame or don't bother.
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Because we all felt the 1dx sample shown from the original post were really soft! So we jumped to the spftness issue from the 5dmkiii issue that was discussed before which were mostly driven by the dpp software.
...and apparently, soft RAW conversions is also an issue with LR.
Bang on! I would never have doubted that LR was giving bad result and had very naively concluded that something was wrong with the camera somehow. It will teach me that just because LR support a camera RAW file, it does not mean it actually do it well!
LR4 gives me great result with the mkii (tried comparing it to dpp again last night for the mkii) but for the mkiii it is a totally different story. The only sad thing in this (for me at least) is that i hate the workflow in dpp, i dont find you can do as much as with LR, and I also find dpp sucks big time at NR...
