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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 16, 2013, 04:01:32 PM »
You would expect the 5DIII to perform better than the 6D being that the latter is what I consider the Rebel of full frame

"Better" is relative here - the 6d gains a little higher iso capability (maybe about 1/3 stop) but produces less sharp images than the 5d3, so it's about what people want from a ff sensor. To me, the 6d appears like a downgraded 5d3 sensor with some readout adjustments and forced chroma noise reduction even in lower iso modes (in higher iso modes, the 5d3 also has nr in raw).

Can you show me where the mk ii beats the mk iii?

The 5d2 has a higher dynamic range (highlight recovery) and spatial resolution (i.e. sharpness) in low iso modes, even with the little less mp count than the 5d3. This fact has been known for long, Canon changed the iso/mp/dr tradeoff to gain better high iso performance and probably less banding on the 5d3 - all these ff models basically all use the same sensor tech. Since ff is about higher iso shooting it's a smart move, but I recon most 5d3/6d owners don't really want to know anyway :-p

The best proof of this I know is a recent German 6d review one on traumflieger.de - but the differences between the 3 ff bodies are not large enough to make a decisive difference for potential buyers, but it proves the point.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 18 Stops of Dynamic Range - RED Dragon
« on: January 16, 2013, 03:23:29 PM »
hopefully the new process rumors are correct and they have finally woken up

I'd be interesting to see how the 6d/5d3 sales to once Canon really improves their current ff tech concerning dr and maybe a little resolution - only then we'll see how important this issue really is, because of course now most proud 5d3/6d owners say that the current sensor is never limiting no matter what.

If you are coming from a 5D2 or 5D3, the photos will still be great with the 6D but there is a good amount missing.

But then again, the 6d has a lot of advancements over the older 5d2 that aren't that obvious but still important like better metering/awb, less banding, silent shutter, ... see http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11309.0

Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Depth of Field calculators
« on: January 16, 2013, 01:08:14 PM »
but it would be nice to review a calculated field prior to selecting lens and/or apertures.....

Use Magic Lantern, it tells you the dof and the hyperfocal distance - and it has focus stacking if you think the dof isn't big enough at sharp apertures.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 18 Stops of Dynamic Range - RED Dragon
« on: January 16, 2013, 01:06:06 PM »
I think it's a cry for attention (which, they're getting in a weird way).

And it's meeting a lot of receptive ears on CR as bdunbar79 just proved :-> ... but there's not only the "jump ship" option, but due to the lack of sensor advancement a lot of people might delay purchases or buy lower-speced cameras like the 6d over the 5d3 until Canon catches up.

EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 16, 2013, 12:46:00 PM »
If you understood you would realize that the higher unusable max ISO rating they give will mean a higher usable ISO which means a cleaner low ISO. That is the way it works.

No, it doesn't, but marketing would people like to believe it does (sorry for the "good grief" though, I didn't want to offend you).

The max. selectable iso says absolutely nothing about usable or clean iso - take the 5d2->5d3->6d, the latter has the highest usable iso, but the older 5d2 has still the best (sharpest/dr-rich) low iso. And there's unfortunately no one stopping marketing from implementing a H4 mode @iso51200 for impressive tech specs, even though it's a noise generator unless downsizing to 320x200.

EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 16, 2013, 10:44:28 AM »
If that ISO rumor is right then Canon will be kicking themselves. I'm not buying this rumor. Can't imagine the lower lever camera (T4i) having better ISO performance than their higher counterpart.

Good grief, it's about usable iso settings, what good would 6d-like settings do if all you get is noise? If you are so desperate for noisy pictures, just shoot @iso12800 on crop and underexpose -3ev...

... I'd be happy if Canon would end the marketing race in both the mp and iso setting category but just release sensors with more dr and 2 stops better iso than now.

Lenses / Re: 70-300L with Kenko 1.4 TC on 6D
« on: January 16, 2013, 10:35:13 AM »
Your comments as well as postings or links to other photos taken with the 70-300L with a 1.4 TC attached will be appreciated.

Just for the record since I'm on crop and not ff: In my experience with the 70-300L + 1.4x Kenko tc there is a visible sharpness loss but it's clearly better than cropping and that's the important thing. Single point af @f8 on 60d is prone to hunting with low contrast objects (multipoint af is much better), but mostly in these situations the shutter speed in acceptable iso range prohibits shooting on crop anyway.

I mostly use the Kenko for static shots like sunsets and tele shots of buildings, sometimes for a couple shots in the zoo - but for the price it's a very valuable companion for the 70-300L and usable on any other like the 100L.

EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: January 16, 2013, 02:06:36 AM »
Marsu, is it the Rob Cole plugin you are talking about? If so I will download and check it out. Thanks in advance.

Yup, that's it - but don't select too many metadata fields to add because the plugin writes the data as plain text into the LR db and and thus the db size can go up a lot (there is no option to remove the fields afterwards).

EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2013, 02:34:10 PM »
It's like saying the 5D Mark III is a crippled 1DX. It's always going to be a compromise.

Compromise - ok. Crippled - no ... but unfortunately Canon imho has a tendency not to care much about complete compromise packages, but cut features just to upsell and protect the more expensive product. Examples would be the removal of afma from the 60d (should be a given in this price class) and now numerous 6d specs esp. since Canon was forced to release the 6d by Nikon's d600.

EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: January 15, 2013, 12:33:25 PM »
You don't need Adobe for this, Canon's free "ZoomBrowser" which comes with DPP and the rest, will show these points and the selected one in red

... but does it give you the stats like LR+ExifMeta, like the number of centerpoint-only shots over your whole collection?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D weatherproofness, tested.
« on: January 15, 2013, 02:22:32 AM »
im mostly posting so this shows up in my replys. But do keep us informed!

At least you freely admit it :-p but I'm also missing a "subscribe/unsubscribe" feature here.

So .... The 6d works ... Fine!

Good to hear, I hope you won't do as Homer Simpsons does ("It did worked last time, why wouldn't it work next time?")...

Not really. Flash hasn't scared away birds from what I've seen, even skittish ones.

+1 - I like shots just like the one you attempted, but would be lost w/o flash esp. on crop - that's why I got the 600rt with the 200mm reflector.

The FX-3 with a 600EX-RT on a RRS B91-QR flash bracket with an FA-QREX2 extender.

Looks nice, but it's always a hassle to order from the US to Europe (shipping time/fees & customs)...

... thus the question: does the "Better Beamer" make a big difference on 300mm vs. the plain 600rt (200mm reflector)? For what I'm shooting the 600rt seems to have enough juice even for 300mm on crop - or does the larger light surface result in significantly softer shadows?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D + 24-105 vs T4i + 24-70 II
« on: January 14, 2013, 04:48:56 PM »
But knowing that my photos could be sharper or less distorted really annoys me.
Or maybe I'd be perfectly okay being stuck with a Rebel for a year knowing I have the best glass available.

You can fix distortions nicely with current software like LR and esp. dxo for complex distortions, and for sharpness, well, you know it depends on the final output size but I also feel that a shot should be sharp at 100% crop just for the sake of it.

If you're not going to sell your shots a rebel should be fine, I'm also still on 60d with the iso800+ iso problem.

I'm indecisive, aren't I?

I sympathize, because I know how hard it is to make up one's mind if top gear is out of reach for the time being. The one thing you should make up your mind about is if you really need the f2.8 of the 24-70, if not you're immediately saving €1000+ for other important non-"core" stuff like lighting accessories and filters. Btw - I'm also still undecided between 24-70 and 24-105 because of the immense price difference and IS.

The larger apertures imho are mostly for available light shooting and subject isolation if you want that, with flash support f4-f5.6 should be also just fine with the higher iso capability of the 6d.

Save $$$ until you ready, sell your 24-105 and get 24-70 f2.8 II

... or the 24-70/2.8IS when it's out :-)

Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 14, 2013, 02:07:02 PM »
I've addressed all of the test results

Thanks for that from me, this thread has been very interesting concerning the 50L real world performance - though that doesn't change the fact that most people seem think it's overpriced even if it can be a good tool at wider apertures.

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