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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D Mk II
« on: September 17, 2012, 03:02:05 PM »
i think whats missing from all the post above is the video capability of the 6D, looking at the spec, looks like its 5D3 territory?

No, video looks like 1dc or Nikon territory - uncompressed hdmi, 1080p/60fps ... let's hope Magic Lantern will be able to do something about that.

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because tourists use MF often?  ;)

Well, actually that's not that improbable because many tourists carry a small travel tripod for shots like the Canon samples. So if they don't mf (... magic lantern with focus peaking, please) they have at least time to use live view and contrast af.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:56:37 PM »
It seems the 6D can be controlled by an Android or Iphone. That's pretty cool! People will make timelapps

... for timelapses just install magic lantern, done - should drain less battery than constant wifi control btw.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:53:54 PM »
The think I'm pissed about is how they didn't put GPS into my 5d3 (and 1dX).

They couldn't because else you'd be p* about them not making the 5d3/1dx full metal.

What potential 6d buyers should be p* reall about is Canon obviously not putting a rf flash controller for 600rt-type flashes into the 6d - would certainly have been possible since the top is only plastic to transmit wifi/gps!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:59:47 AM »
Photography for me (and a lot of people including the main people the 6D and D600 are aimed at) is a HOBBY.

... and many hobbyists that aren't ready to jump ship to Nikon will be content with the 6d as a "high iq tourist landscape" body for lenses with f4+ and an af systems that trades in precision for low light sensitivity.

I'm sure Canon has done some market research, and while it is quite arrogant to set this against the d600 I'm sure a lot of people will still buy it for wifi & gps "out of the box" alone.

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Canon has posted a bunch of images and videos made with the new Canon EOS 6D

The shots are taken with a 17-40/4 ... no wonder since Canon came up with an anti-5d3 af that trades in precision (*no* cross point @f2.8+ even in the center) for added low light sensitivity.

Imho the 6d is a "high iq landscape tourist camera body" - you don't carry around a f2.8 zoom anyway in this case, often shoot in dim light and have no need for a fast, precise or servo af. And with a fast prime you can mf and use an exchangeable screen that the 5d3 cannot use.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:47:37 AM »
It looks exactly like a 60D..the button arrangement is identical!
It's more like a FF 60D than a 5Dmk2 replacement.

Since I've got a 60d and am quite happy with it I'd buy the ff version this instant - but not for $2099 *and* a crippled af system @f2.8+, it's either $1099 or at least a full center (double)cross-sensor for me.

The wording might be an unlucky one. It might as well mean that the center point is a higher precision cross-type, and that there are more cross-types among the other 10 points.
I really don't think it is just unlucky wording. Several sources have already confirmed that it has only 1 cross type point, and many Canon related web forums are in flames a.t.m.

No, you're wrong: The 6d has *no* cross type point at all if you use a f2.8+ lens (if I understand the specs and diagrams correctly). Obviously that's how they managed to get that low-light sensitivity - but making it less precise!

Basically it's the anti-5d3 af for low-light landscape shooters with lenses of f4+ ... I find this ridiculous beyond belief, even I wouldn't have expected this downgrade in comparison to the 5d2 from Canon. It's the price for quiet shutter, ff sensor, gps and wifi to protect the 5d3.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 6D Preorders
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:39:04 AM »
nope.... really wanted to

me neither, so it's really 5d2 or 5d3 after all - Canon crippling the af system so there's *no* cross-type af point even in the center w/ a f2.8+ lens nails this to the amateur market, no wonder the sample shots on their product page were taken with a 14-70/4 lens and the kit lens is the 24-105/4.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 09:29:53 AM »
The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

The design shows they really managed to build the anti-5d3 af: no cross type sensor at f2.8+ ...

... this is ridiculous beyond belief, no way to give this a positive spin even if it's up to -3ev. I've shot for a long time with an analog eos620 with no cross-type sensor - the pattern detection simply isn't reliable enough if it's only one point.

From Canon's product page: High Performance Composing and Focus

Canon marketing says otherwise? Well, I'm not quite convinced :-p

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:40:11 AM »
The 6d will be able to focus in -3 ev so in that regard, it's even better than the 1d X.

Sure - *if* you happen to shoot in the dark and *if* you don't have a flash with af assist light (or the distance is too far) and *if* your lens is still able to provide an acceptable shutter speed - that might exclude the kit f4 lens.

The question is how *precise* the af will be at all and at esp. at low light, otherwise it's useless. We'll have to wait until January to find out... to me, the 6d sounds more like a "high iq tourist camera" than d600 competition.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:31:20 AM »
Found this:

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A cross-type sensor with an f/2.8-sensitive horizontal line and an f/5.6-sensitive vertical line will function as a cross-type sensor with an f/2.8 or faster lens, but if you use a slower lens, you'll still have a functional AF point (but with only single-line orientation).

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Photography-Tips/Canon-EOS-DSLR-Autofocus-Explained.aspx

Yes, this is valid for the 1dx/5d3 outer af points - but Canon's 6d spec "cross-type at f/5.6; vertical line-sensitive at f/2.8" simply doesn't match this. Seems more like a desperate measure to make all people w/ f2.8+ lenses buy the 5d3.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D Mk II
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:19:18 AM »
I'm considering picking up either the 6D or 5D Mk II, which camera would you expect to be better?

You cannot pick up the 6d, it doesn't exist yet. And just that Canon states "December" doesn't mean anything knowing their release schedule problems, the "newly developed sensor" might very well produce a delay.

I'd wait for real life ISO performance and comparison of the AF systems, otherwise the two cameras appear quite comparable. No mention of AFMA on 6D, which may be an issue on FF sensors

6d has afma (and silent shutter, gps, wifi over the 5d2).

Well it is now confirmed that the 6D has 11 point AF with only one cross type point.

Actually Canon specs implies that the 6d has *no* cross sensor at all if you're using a f2.8 lens - if this is correct it would be arrogant beyond belief and a measure to protect the "pro" 5d3 at all costs.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:07:23 AM »
Lenses used to be better.

They might be still better in absolute terms esp. considering IS and af performance, but the latest releases are either very expensive (24-70) to ridiculously priced (tele primes) or very expensive and geared towards the video market (IS primes). So imho currently no need to buy Canon because of the lens selection alone.

Then the sensor probably would have been the succesor to the 18Mpx 1dx sensor they had to drop due to resent HiGH Mpx and dynamic range competition.

That might be an explanation for the crippled af - but I guess if the "newly developed sensor" is really significantly better than the 5d3 version Canon would have mentioned it in their press release. Much more likely that sad, cold truth is that Canon does what Canon usually does to lower priced camera bodies - cut essential features (60d: afma, 6d: shutter, af) and add gimmicks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 05:43:07 AM »
From http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_6d#Specifications ...

Center: cross-type at f/5.6; vertical line-sensitive at f/2.8.

... does this mean that with a f2.8+ lens attached, the center point degrades to non-cross ?!? This would be an anti-5d3/1dx af system which are tuned for f2.8 lenses.
I noticed that too. Interesting question. It would make the 6D's AF the worst in years.
I don't think so...  5D2 is still worse.

... not if the 6d has *no* cross-type point at f2.8, just the added low-light sensitivity.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 05:29:19 AM »
From http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_6d#Specifications ...

Center: cross-type at f/5.6; vertical line-sensitive at f/2.8.

... does this mean that with a f2.8+ lens attached, the center point degrades to non-cross ?!? This would be an anti-5d3/1dx af system which are tuned for f2.8 lenses.

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