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Lenses / Re: *UPDATE* Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Pushed Back to October?
« on: August 31, 2012, 03:48:50 AM »
OK then something on topic: There is a CR3 that 24-70 II will be available by October 2013 (or 2014?)  ;D

It should be a CR3 that there'll be a 24-70/2.8 IS before 2014 and 2/3rds of the people buying the non-IS version now will upgrade. People spending $2000+ for a standard zoom will pay $3000+ w/o flinching, too - and there always is the "off" button for IS:

Even if the IS version is a little worse optically in the corners or something (why should it?), on this level 2/3rds of users won't even notice: "Hey look, I just took some snaps of my kids, and see the blurry bokeh in the corner?".

But I admit I'm absolutely curious to see the first real review, af speed will be stellar of course, but will iq really rival the sharpness primes stopped down to f2.8, what about ca/vignetting, is the bokeh like on the 135L? When the lens arrives by xmas for the rest of us we'll know!

Lenses / Re: *UPDATE* Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Pushed Back to October?
« on: August 30, 2012, 06:26:43 AM »

That's why I did a poll some time ago, and even then trust into Canon seemed limited - only about 25% believed in the announced mid-September delivery date :-> http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7859.msg143492#msg143492

but I keep reminding myself that "apparently the wait will be worth it"....fingers crossed.

Given the delay and the price it just has to be stellar ... or what? People will buy it anyway, even if it doesn't combine the 24L, 35L and 50L in one lens. That's because the mk1 is phased out, very expensive when used and the Tamron isn't an alternative because of the slower af. So until the new patented 24-70L with IS arrives people are out of options.

Lenses / Re: 100mm F2.8 macro vs 100mm F.28L IS macro
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:04:36 PM »
The two Canon 100mm Macro lenses aren't portrait lenses: for a wedding, I'd probably follow the advice of a 100mm F/2 or 135mm F/2 L.

No lens has "portrait" written on it, but the 100L certainly is usable for this application, and for a wedding is more versatile than the 100/2 because you can close-up shots without changing lenses. The "real" flexible portrait lens for weddings is the 70-200/2.8 if you are willing to carry that around.

9 (rounded) blades vs 8: 100L IS bokeh should be (is) nicer.

Having shot with both lenses I can say that the *rounded* blades make the difference, at least when there are highlights in the bokeh - it's not so much of a difference if it's just the standard background blur.

Lenses / Re: 100mm F2.8 macro vs 100mm F.28L IS macro
« on: August 29, 2012, 08:07:20 AM »
In terms of quality, the regular is unbelievably sharp - even wide open.  Maybe the L is better, but at that point I really don't think it will be noticeable unless you start comparing them side by side and start pixel peeping.

The difference shows when you use a crop camera or a tc (working distance) on the 100L vs the non-L, the L version is clearly sharper wide open and diffraction sets in later. Other than that, the L has nicer, rounder lights in bokeh due to different blade design, but that's hardly an issue on its own. As a macro lens for sane apertures like f5-f10 the non-L is nearly the same.


I know tons of people will say "oh my god.  you need IS." or something like "OMG, the weather sealing is a must."  but, IS isn't very useful at this length, and don't use your camera underwater.  if your lens does break because of water you can buy a second one and still be at the same price for one of the L's.

+1 for unnecessary IS, but sealing isn't just a protection against water, but against sand/dust, too. That's the reason I upgraded after my non-L broke down due to sand for the second time, it's hard to keep the lens out of harm's way when being outdoors and near the ground.

Lenses / Re: Canon 24-70/2.8L II is official delayed - again
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:02:26 AM »
October? Meh! No problem. After the erratic QC of the MkI this new one just has to nail it. Take your time Canon.

You actually believe it's October this time? Since Canon doesn't even get their websites synced (us vs. uk), personally I believe there'll be another delay. That's because some guy lately stated that Canon did some last minute changes to the lens due to beta tester feedback - and this goes far beyond simple qc optimizations. Sadly we might never know what the issues were, but for a computer chip the round trip to do changes is at least half a year.

Lenses / Re: Considering the 70-200 f4 is for my next lens
« on: August 29, 2012, 03:13:17 AM »
But the suggestions of the far newer L70-300IS also present a fairly compelling option. That extra 100mm....! Matched with your 5D3 the slower apertures shouldn't be a problem

... speaking of which: I forgot to mention that the 70-300L has another potential disadvantage on the new 5d3/1dx af system: the outer focus points are only horizontal, on the 70-200/4 it's cross-type all over. On the bright side the new 70-300L is tested to work extremely precise anyway since it's both the latest Canon tech working together.

Lenses / Re: Considering the 70-200 f4 is for my next lens
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:42:41 AM »
I take Candids of the kids but I find myself wanting more reach.

For more reach at nearly the price of the 70-200/4 there is the 70-300L, sharpness is give or take - you should try that too before you decide. The 70-300L has some advantages (shorter, more reach, newest IS) and some disadvantages (non-constant aperture = f5 at 200mm, only non-Canon tc 1.4x = f8).

The 70-200/4 of course is a classic and good lens, but always looks strangely slim and long for me for something that starts at 70mm/4. For a 70-200mm the f2.8 is the best choice if you are willing to carry it. The really good thing about the 70-200/4 is that there are still rather cheap non-IS versions and you get L optical and build quality.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7d noise question is it normal?
« on: August 28, 2012, 04:46:00 AM »
Yes, the 7D is a terrific camera, handicapped by noise at times, but still does a mostly good job when you play on its strengths.

Except for the higher banding on the 7d, it shares the 18mp sensor with 550d and up - so here's my 2 cents from 60d:

* everything above iso 800 is crap @100%, and only if you don't need to raise shadows too much. And with everything above iso 400 you might run into problems in some areas as you've just found out :-o

* your best bet is to ettr if you can, i.e. your shutter speed is still high enough. Then use recovery in lr4, I use it nearly all the time, in contrast to lr3's pv2010 there's now drawback in the new 2012 process.

* use local denoising with lr4 or noise ninja

* only denoise just enough that the *target* export size shows just the grain with you can live with

* the one advantage of the crop sensor is the 1.6x magnifciation = less cropping if your lens focal length was too short = less noise, more resolution and more sharpness in comparison to ff.  This is esp. valid for close-up macro shots since the usable aperture is higher when staying as far away from 1:1 as possible.

Lenses / Re: 100mm f2.8 HIS Macro question!
« on: August 28, 2012, 04:12:34 AM »
Maybe I'm just not used to it - as most lenses I've owned haven't had IS/HIS - so it's just a new sound but it just seemed weird.

My lens sometimes makes a hideous noise when I activate the IS and the lens is pointing down. After reading that a different noise level is to be expected (other than the rather quiet latest 70-200L/300L-IS) I just ignore it.

The one thing that makes me worry is the rumor that the HIS is more delicate than standard IS, and a louder noise level means it's damaged. But my lens has been doing this from day one.

Lenses / Re: Lenses listed in Group A, Group B, Group C... Why?
« on: August 24, 2012, 03:01:44 PM »
I think the "Referral Denied" means you can not access the pdf directly from a link on the Canon Rumors forum since it is not an official Canon site (it is checking what site you are accessing the link from -- the referring site).

... or use something like the "RefControl" Firefox plugin which has a config option to always tell sites that it originates from the same site, circumvents a lot of cross-domain referer checks. It has a whitelist, too so you can except sites that need the real referer.

With this setup, the download of said pdf works just fine :-)

Lenses / Re: Lenses listed in Group A, Group B, Group C... Why?
« on: August 24, 2012, 02:08:11 PM »
There is a logic to how lenses wind up in different categories.

The thing I'm sorry about is that lenses cannot change their category dynamically - The 100L could have a higher category at non-macro distances, and the 70-300L could have the outer focus points as cross when at f4. Esp. the 1dx/5d3 af and the 70-300L/4-5.6 could give the 70-200/4 sales a push for this reason.

Site Information / Re: Denied access in forum/contacting the site admin?
« on: August 24, 2012, 02:02:12 PM »
As far as the new software, quite a few hours were spend on testing it, and it looks like we will be keeping the present software and adding a add-in to put reputation back in for users.  If it works, admins will be able to track abusers.

Well, sorry to hear that because other board systems simply have more features, though another look & feel than CR. I was really looking forward to per-post ratings though because it would be much more useful than any general reputation for me, can you do an add-in for that?

Site Information / Re: Denied access in forum/contacting the site admin?
« on: August 24, 2012, 09:28:02 AM »
Also, is there a way to "track" posts that I find interesting and see a list of those in a control panel or something similar?

Not to my knowledge (though a CR forum software updated is rumored for as long as the first 24-70ii rumor :-)) - when you have replied to a topic you can use "Show new replies to your posts" in the top right corner.

« on: August 24, 2012, 08:47:18 AM »
do you think i must take 5d3 or wait for high megapixel that is coming .

... +1 for 5d2 if 21mp is enough - and use Magic Lantern for automatic unlimited bracketing and/or focus stacking (with an af lens): fuse them with Photomatrix (commercial) or enfuse (free), that'll give you max quality at min noise.

I did all the initial testing with Alex since March when 5D3 was released and took that "Hello World" photo, I bricked my 5D3 numerous times and all successfully unbricked. The latest build I tested works really well considering it's done in just a few months, I believe it definately won't take a year from now for a stable 5D3 release.

For everybody's sake I just asked about the 5d3 schedule in the forum, and really there's no saying when it'll be ready i.e. if you want ml on ff now or in the near future get a 5d2: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1006.0

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