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When this update now comes probably in next month

We could take bets - my money is on the 7d firmware released after the "real" 5d3 firmware update fixing the black dots in af servo and such. And *maybe* then they'll update the 60d a little because it's newer than the 7d and "current" due to the 60da - hope dies last :-o

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Rumors are starting about Pentax also using Sony's 24MP FF sensor in a camera for March 2013.

http://photorumors.com/2012/06/15/more-pentax-full-frame-dslr-rumors/

The K3 is rumored to have 1080p/60 and 6fps - if this is true, Sony is pushing Canon in a corner by using this 24mp sensors in their own, Nikon and Pentax bodies. Maybe we'll see a Sony sensor in Canon bodies, too?

Did Pentax not say that FF is dead, and they're focussing on APS-C and 645D only?

Of course they said that when they didn't have a ff body. But given the current pixel density on aps-c, ff is the way ahead in for more expensive sensors.

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That reads wrong. Did you mean overexpose, and then pull back the detail from the highlights?

No, it's exactly what I wrote. HTP doesn't give you more highlights, but more definition in highlights by preventing them being clipped - that's why the camera has to *under*expose.

Since the total dynamic range stays the same, at the same time the shadows have to be compressed and are only expanded again with a tone curve in the raw converter or in in-camera jpeg, with the known side-effects banding and/or more shadow noise.

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Hmmm interesting http://colorbyjorg.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/highlight-tone-priority-htp-choice-of-iso-and-noise/
I didn't know that...


HTP *underexposes* your image by 1 stop (that's why it starts at iso200) and then applies a tone curve to raise shadows - of course noise in dark areas & banding is more of a problem. HTP doesn't exchange your Canon sensor for a Sony one behind your back. This feature is only for shooting video & jpeg of high dr scenes where you want to make sure highlights aren't clipped. For raw, underexpose yourself and then recover highlights manually.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D2 RAW "Crosshatch" Banding
« on: June 21, 2012, 05:25:02 AM »
ISO Performance is probably the biggest improvement of the 5D MK3

Again, this is a mostly a marketing myth. The 5d3 has some nice features, but the sensor is not among them and basically the same as on the 5d2.

Using *raw* I cannot see any difference up to iso1600 and next to none at iso3200 - there is some at iso6400+ but then dynamic range decreases. That's by looking at the dpreview samples, I even imported them myself in Lightroom for comparison. The 5d3 only has the "nicer" noise pattern.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D2 RAW "Crosshatch" Banding
« on: June 21, 2012, 05:13:04 AM »
I can dig out a couple of photos from that evening and post some full res JPEGs if you'd like.

Yes, some samples would be interesting, esp. if the 5d2 shows banding @3200 or even @1600 and the 5d3 doesn't. Atm I am going to buy a 5d2 because I don't see significant improvements in the 5d3 sensor at least at these iso ratings I'm likely to use a lot.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Silent Shutter
« on: June 20, 2012, 06:24:18 PM »
Anyway, the point is dont limit your capability just because you expect to have stingy customers.

I see your point, but my point still is that I expect to be broke in no time if I don't have my market in mind... I can still go for gold-plated lenses and life size prints once I'm in business and can afford the high-mp 5d mk4 when it's released in about two years.

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Lenses / Re: Which 24-70 to buy for weddings & events?
« on: June 20, 2012, 05:41:22 PM »
See pix below - if you have to travel from East to West- which option do you prefer? Don't tell me latest technology is NOT matter.

You asked the wrong guy - I've sold my car and much prefer my bicycle and trains, so I'd take the environmentally clean 2 live horse powers any day. Also, if driving at 150mph you're missing all the good landscape shots. And from where I live in Berlin, I can walk from East to West in 5 minutes :-)

Concerning the laptop: this is a link in the toolchain that has *no* impact on iq, unlike camera bodies or esp. lenses. So I'd rather process good pictures slowly than crappy ones in a blaze - for me it would only matter if my business generates so many pictures that it affects my ability to work efficiently. A good Nikon photog just told me that he won't upgrade to the d800 because the added mp needed more processing power while he wouldn't sell more, just like the 5dc->5d2 upgrade described above.

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Lenses / Re: Which 24-70 to buy for weddings & events?
« on: June 20, 2012, 04:15:26 PM »
2012 Vs 2002 Technology - Do you think this a fair comparison?
This is Canon L lens, NOT Tamron. Wonder where Tamron lenses are made? Japan or somehere else?

For me, my equipment can come right from the dark side of the moon and can be dated 1980 as long as it serves the purpose. Doing comparisons isn't about being fair towards manufacturers or being right, but just about making the best decision as a consumer given the current choices.

In fact, I could even do with less red rings and white paint on my lenses, I've been told that having the latest, most shiny gear isn't necessarily a good sign for a pro but makes you look like a noob. Which I am. But no need to hand a sign around my neck.

I highly recommend getting a reportage list and A day to scout the venues. Then, you'll know what you really need.

Oh, you can be sure I'll to that allright. But there's no harm in getting lots of advice before buying equipment for thousands of $$$. And if I have adequate equipment, this is at least one thing that is less likely to go wrong next to all other things I can screw up when building a business for myself.

Besides, while LR on my older Laptop is rendering hundreds of previews, I've got even more time then you participating in pointless rumors :-p

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Silent Shutter
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:38:59 PM »
Something your customers will appreciate, particularly in the natural light setting by ordering more and larger prints which equals more $$$ in your pocket.  :)

*If* they want larger prints - and as a wedding photog-to-be, I have been told at least the clients I'll get for starters aren't concerned with screen sizes larger than your average computer monitor or print sizes larger than you can pass around at tea time. ymmv.

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Lenses / Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:37:00 PM »
The quality and expense of this lens is probably due to the high resolution/mega pixels camera we hope Canon will release soon. You need some serious glass quality to take advantage of cameras like the D800.


I agree this is Canon's future perspective. But right now, is your statement valid the other way around, too? Like you don't need the 24-70ii if you're happy with 21/22mp, esp. if corner sharpness is not the primary concern? I just asked this for weddings, and probably will get the Tamron 24-70 instead: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7479.0

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Lenses / Re: Which 24-70 to buy for weddings & events?
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:32:49 PM »
By the way I am working on getting a few of my wedding photos to post on here, so stay tuned in case you're interested.

Sure, esp. if it's the "... and that's why you need equipment xyz, it couldn't be done without" type of shots!

That was my thinking when I bought the 24-105, but what I quickly realized is that people are very rarely static, so IS is of no help.

With very few exceptions (like in this thread) that's what people have been telling me, too: except if you shoot with multiple primes or are ready to accept tradeoffs like higher iso or more flash (if you're allowed to), there's hardly any way around a 24-70/2.8's combination of low light capability & flexibility.

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Lenses / Re: Which 24-70 to buy for weddings & events?
« on: June 20, 2012, 01:59:55 PM »
How often do you hear "get the right tool for the right job".  Also, Canon L lenses hold their values better than 3rd party lenses.

Asking what the right tool is what this thread is about - and "right" doesn't mean "most expensive", not even in an enthusiast's forum. For me, the re-sale value is only of concern for lenses I might actually want to sell again, but if I get the 24-70ii I'll keep it and the money is gone for good.

I had recommended the 24-70 I and 70-200 F/2.8 IS II to my boyfriend as the preferred zoom kit, but they were out of budget.

For me "budget" is relative to what a business is about: Earning money after some sane period of time rather than spending it. I *could* get a 5d3, 24-70ii and a 70-200/2.8ii, but I'd be near broke then and I serious doubt that would be smart business in relation to my first clients' expectations and my first salaries.

I had recommended It's going well - the brides are thrilled with their photos and are actively referring me to other brides :-)

Congrats to your successful business start! Please don't move to Berlin/Germany, will you :-> ... I guess being a women does help in this business since it's not that common, allows you more freedom and maybe people tend to be more relaxed? Well, can't change this fact now for me and have to work with what I am :-p

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Lenses / Re: Which 24-70 to buy for weddings & events?
« on: June 20, 2012, 01:27:54 PM »
Oh, add a macro just in case you want close ups of something small.

I've got a 100L, as stated in every of my posts (look under my name to the left), mentioned in my first and many successive posts in these thread...

My feeling is mrk II will be a MUST have lens in the bag  ;)

My current "must" is to get some money out of pro photography after 1 year or so, and not spending it :-p

And there are plenty of situations in which one needs VC at weddings.

Are there? Plenty? All I'm all in favor of a "free" IS of a Tamron lens that performs like the Canon mk1 and is much cheaper, and I'll use the IS for my personal spare time shots. But except for totals of the church and such no situations would spring to my mind that wouldn't involve people, thus rendering the IS advantage nearly moot at these focal lengths?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: June 20, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »
Get used to it, this sort of poorly made propaganda is becoming very popular lately.

Could I also get into the business of spreading poorly made propaganda if Canon gives me a free 5d3+600rt flash :-p ... even the idea makes me like the 5d3 a lot more! Or the d800, if Nikon takes my offer.

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