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EOS Bodies / For those interested in 7D2

« on: May 11, 2012, 08:38:35 AM »

It seems that in most of these thread's about new body's everyone will be happy if the price goes up 1000 dollars over current 7D body's pricing.  I personally am a hobby shooter with about 4 weddings lined up as the 2nd shooter this summer.   The thought of spending close to or more than 2g's for a camera is my max budget.   That being said I wanted to know what people do for money that makes a 2500 dollar pro-sumer body a good deal?

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Crop/APS-C Prosumer Camera Body in the Fall? [CR1]

« on: May 10, 2012, 08:54:19 AM »

I have to disagree with many on this forum everyone seems to think that everything is going up market that prices have to rise with new features.   I couldn't disagree more.  The 7D being pro-sumer right now and being the next camera I want to buy I could never imagine spending more than 1900 with that being list price.    Even after reading on here that it will have a new generation of sensor some keep saying the 650D will have the same one.  This from my understanding will not be true and it makes a lot of sense.   For example

Release Order
650D with old 18mp sensor but other upgrades like old 7D AF
Mirorless
7D2 with New sensor dual digic 5 and better AF lets it then stand out above the rest of the lineup and allows a year or longer before the new fancy sensor gets passed down to the rebels.
Big Mega Pixel FF

Back to my original soap box, I don't know what everyone here does for a living but if you move the 7D2 up in price 2000+ then its no longer a consumer camera. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Crop/APS-C Prosumer Camera Body in the Fall? [CR1]

« on: May 09, 2012, 02:53:37 PM »

After the last year, nothing Canon may do will surprise me.


I have no interest in a full-frame body. Like I've said before, I'd rather have a top end mid-size car than a stripped-down full-sized version. If I'm honest with myself

You make a great point and that's the direction that I'll probably go in as well, I'd rather have all the bells and whistles in a crop sensor than in a camera thats just like my 450D but with a better sensor. 

If you merged today's 60D and 7D this is roughly the specs you would get if you met in the middle of the two which I could see happening if they bring an entry full frame in at 1800 or so. 

98% View finder
20MP
7FPS
New AF hopefully like 27pt
Composite body with weather proofing
No LCD on top
ISO 100-12800 expandable to 18000 sweet spot hopefully up through 6000
Dual Digic 5

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Crop/APS-C Prosumer Camera Body in the Fall? [CR1]

« on: May 09, 2012, 11:48:56 AM »

This is perfect  I will be replacing my 450D with this new 70D or maybe the entry level Full Frame.  Time to save some pennies.

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Camera Body Gallery / Re: Let's see some great shots taken with old, cheap gear!

« on: May 06, 2012, 02:42:27 PM »

Taken with 450D and kit lens, just ND on a few on in JPG mode using a WB cap. 





This shot taken with hand me down 70-200 EF lens from non digital canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Rebel T4i [CR2]

« on: May 03, 2012, 08:40:16 AM »

Marketing-wise, it would be clever to reserve the xd name for full frame "I've got money and want to show it" bodies, along with red ring lenses - so xxd and xxx is for cheapos. And they certainly won't put the exact 7d af on xxxd bodies - Ken Rockwell would write it doesn't work right out of the box because there are so many options. But I think that more af fields might appear in the xxd line because that's what's the main problem with tracking on the 60d.

If the 7D2 never happens and mirrorless takes place basically of the XXXd entry line then the there is no harm is putting more AF points in all the camera's as long as its less than the 5D3.  I'm no math wiz but 19pts seems alot less than 63 in the high end camera's and is a good selling point over the competition or may still only have 10 pts or something.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Rebel T4i [CR2]

« on: May 01, 2012, 10:17:20 AM »

I'm new to these forums, but what is wrong with the current T3i sensor? What could they do to make it better in the T4i? I just bought a T3i and was curious what issues people are aware of...

I have a 450D but my understanding is that it's a 3? Year or older sensor it's starting to be surpassed by competitors and I think 800 is like make ISO for clean images.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Full Frame Cameras on the 2012 Horizon? [CR2/CR1]

« on: April 30, 2012, 04:36:26 PM »

You inadvertently changed the quotations!
The last one is NOT MINE. It's your comments. Mine is the small paragraph mentioning the LCD on the top.
Allow me to fix it:

What seems ridiculous to me is that the 5D2 was released 3+ years ago, you don't think with thousands and thousands of them on the streets that the cost of manufacturing can't be reduced to say 1,500?   Who cares if it used 
no more...

Why no LCD on top? Is that costly? Even the cheapest analog autofocus Canon cameras had LCD on top!!!
Still apart from this you described a better than 5DII camera! I still want one!

Basically your telling me just because the mk2 is still good there is no reason for change. My 1996 Acura integra was the worlds fastest FWD car when it came out but somehow they made other cars.    And with what Nikon etc are putting on the market now it's time to thank th mk2 for its service but say good bye

And continue by saying that you would like a cheaper than 5DmkII FF camera (which will be supposed to be worse too) and somehow this is progress?

You mistake price for quality. You could argue the features on a t3i with its screen are nicer but cheaper also.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Full Frame Cameras on the 2012 Horizon? [CR2/CR1]

« on: April 30, 2012, 04:16:18 PM »

What seems ridiculous to me is that the 5D2 was released 3+ years ago, you don't think with thousands and thousands of them on the streets that the cost of manufacturing can't be reduced to say 1,500?   Who cares if it used 
no more...

Why no LCD on top? Is that costly? Even the cheapest analog autofocus Canon cameras had LCD on top!!!
Still apart from this you described a better than 5DII camera! I still want one!

Basically your telling me just because the mk2 is still good there is no reason for change. My 1996 Acura integra was the worlds fastest FWD car when it came out but somehow they made other cars.    And with what Nikon etc are putting on the market now it's time to thank th mk2 for its service but say good bye

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Full Frame Cameras on the 2012 Horizon? [CR2/CR1]

« on: April 30, 2012, 04:04:58 PM »

No video  (i personally never take video) 

So put this camera where the 7D use to be at 1500, now when the 5DX comes slot that at like 2500 and then drop the 5D2 completely or price ijt at like 1200

No video instantly kills the market for that camera, and makes it impossible for Canon to sell it cheap. You want them to use a sensor they've already made (keeps cost down), in which case, video costs them nothing to add in. I can put video on a 50D, which wasn't sold with it, so it's clearly just a firmware/software addition. There may be a few hardware pieces to make it look better, but ultimately, it's cheap if not free. But, having it means way more people buy the camera, which means the cost of manufacturing is cheaper for Canon (offsets R&D, etc over many more consumers). Taking it out would definitely not offset the sales loss.

I agree that the body would have to be 60D like, the AF would probably be the 7D one, but I don't think they can put 6FPS in it, even if the camera can handle it. It'd have to be the same FPS as the 5dII. Even then, it probably still retails for $2k. I'd basically expect a 5dII with very slight improvements that allow them to be manufactured cheaper.

Ok so video is important to sales. Take 5dmk3 sensor limit ISO to 12000 drop to 5fps put in a cheaper body and use 7d AF.  Seem like a good compromise?   I'm not even sure why they use metal chassis when I've never beaten up my 450D. The screen is the delicate part

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Full Frame Cameras on the 2012 Horizon? [CR2/CR1]

« on: April 30, 2012, 02:39:46 PM »

It is very easy to produce a camera worse than 5DII.

1. They can use a 600-like body
2. They can omit Lens Micro Adjustment
3. They can put a worse viewfinder

Even the use of an SD card although of course NOT WORSE by itself may mean that many CF users who have put a lot of money to buy very good CF cards will have to buy again cards...

I think more likely a
1. similar sensor as mkII
2. 7d-like body
3. digit 5 (not 5+)
4. similar to 7d AF
5. slow burst - same MP or 5-6 fps and fewer MP

Really???

You just described a much much better 5DmkII !!!

Same sensor, similar body, better electronics (Digic 5), better autofocus...

This is the camera between 5DII and 5DIII not an entry level...

I want one

What seems ridiculous to me is that the 5D2 was released 3+ years ago, you don't think with thousands and thousands of them on the streets that the cost of manufacturing can't be reduced to say 1,500?   Who cares if it used to cost 10 thousand dollars eventually things become cheaper.  If you could show me that there were not newer better camera's coming out anytime soon, how can I as a 450D user justify 2,000 on a nearly 4 year old body.   

As others have said this could make FF reasonable starter camera
 
60D Body
7D Autofocus
6FPS
no LCD on top
no weather proofing
No video  (i personally never take video) 

So put this camera where the 7D use to be at 1500, now when the 5DX comes slot that at like 2500 and then drop the 5D2 completely or price ijt at like 1200 

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Lighting / Re: Softbox vs omni bounce

« on: March 08, 2012, 02:02:33 PM »

So now I'm looking at this because I'm not so sure about a soft box, I'm planning on using this in Mexico in a few weeks for fill light to take portraits of the family on the beach with sun setting behind us.   I keep reading that bounced light is best. 
Lumiquest pocket bounce

http://www.amazon.com/LumiQuest-LQ-101-Lumiquest-Pocket-Bouncer/dp/B00009R8DJ/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1331233149&sr=8-12

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Lighting / Softbox vs omni bounce or pocket bounce? for outdoor portraits

« on: March 08, 2012, 08:49:54 AM »

I'm ordering a Younguno 565EX today, and have heard I should have a sto-fen omni bounce, which to my understanding is just to bounce the light off the ceiling while making it softer.   Now I'm going to be shooting people outdoors for family photos and wondered if I should also get a soft box that will attach?   This is my first flash experience. 


http://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Softbox-Speedlight-Speedlite-Panasonica/dp/B003Y30334/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1331213986&sr=8-3

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Lenses / Re: Help decide between two Tamron lens

« on: March 07, 2012, 02:26:25 PM »

If a lens has some small dust internally it's nothing to walk away from I'm guessing?

It theoretically reduces the contrast of the lens. Nothing you'll notice in your pictures. However, many people like the idea of having a clean product. If too much dust starts heaping up it might become noticable or make the moving parts in the lens move less smoothly, or in the worst case scenario, block the aperture curtains. Doesn't really happen much in real life though.

After reading this article I no longer fear dust.  http://www.kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html

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Lenses / Re: Help decide between two Tamron lens

« on: March 07, 2012, 09:52:03 AM »

If a lens has some small dust internally it's nothing to walk away from I'm guessing?