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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today
« on: November 02, 2012, 06:13:39 AM »
There's a psychological thing for me:  I find it very difficult to pay $3300 today for a camera for which many people paid $2800 yesterday.

Not gonna happen!

Yup!

For all of those that pay attention to online web prices and/or read digital camera news on a regular basis, they'll all be aware of the $2750 deal and be thinking to themselves about waiting for that to happen.

Of course the 5D Mark III will continue to sell but not in numbers like the 5D Mark II did and quite possibly not the numbers that Canon wants.

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Canon General / Re: Canon's MAP Pricing Goes Into Full Effect Today
« on: November 01, 2012, 07:57:53 AM »
It's all too late.

Canon's rather high MAP is just going to turn away customers...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Official DXOMark Sensor Score for the EOS-1D X
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:38:28 AM »
whatNikon D4Canon 1Dx
Score8982
Depth24.723.8
DR13.111.8
Sports29652786

whatCanon 5D Mark IIICanon 1Dx
Score8182
Depth2423.8
DR11.711.8
Sports22932786
Pitch6.086.92

2786/2293 = 1.215, so 21.5% better low light ISO with the 1Dx vs the 5D Mark III.

The pixel pitch ratio suggests a 14% bigger pixel but it is probably more than that given that the pixel has both height and width and that I don't know if the pixel pitch is the height, width, diameter, etc. If all pixels are square then the pixel size ratio is 1.295.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:29:13 AM »

Consensus has shifted from DOA to good 6D kit lens with shorter focal length than 24-105, so does not eat into 70-200 sales (what myself & dilbert said). The 24-105 f4L IS is a very good lens, albeit an odd focal length. Canon probably want a 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200 as wide/standard/telephoto zooms for all FF bodies, and to have both fast and f4 apertures, with and without IS....eventually. As someone else here has said, Canon do conduct their own research...nobody here on CR would object to that variety/choice (3 x reference zooms).

I am not buying that Canon is shoe-horning us into 24-70 to protect 70-200 sales.   That can't happen if the 24-105 is still in play.  So to protect 70-200 sales, they will obsolete a very popular lens in the 24-105?   That's only a takeaway, so I just don't buy it.

It's not to protect sales but rather to generate sales of either the 70-200 or 70-300.

That and IQ.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:27:27 AM »
There are also well known IQ issues with the 24-105 at the wide end that require the lens be replaced or updated before any high megapixel camera is made available for sale. It may be that a 24-105/f4 is unable to deliver the required IQ at 24mm whereas a 24-70/f4 can.

Based on (i) the conflicting results of Photozone and the-digital-picture (ii) my experience with zoom lenses, there is probably copy-to-copy variation in the 24-105 lens. Some copies like the one tested by Photozone has disappointing edge performance near the tele end. An experience technician can tweak the lens to make the wide end sharper at the expense of the tele end performance, or vice versa.

The field curvature at 24mm on the 24-105 is a killer.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 08:38:40 PM »
What if the 24-105 results in too few lenses being sold?

That is, it has enough reach that a lot of people don't buy that second zoom.

By replacing the 24-105/f4 with the 24-70/f4 and using the 24-70/f4 as a kit lens, it may end up increasing the number of 70-200 and 70-300 lenses that get sold because 70mm just isn't enough.

There are also well known IQ issues with the 24-105 at the wide end that require the lens be replaced or updated before any high megapixel camera is made available for sale. It may be that a 24-105/f4 is unable to deliver the required IQ at 24mm whereas a 24-70/f4 can.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS [CR1]
« on: October 30, 2012, 10:06:58 AM »
I am not sure I get the point with another 24-70mm. Then why release the v2 ?

Think of 2012 as the year in which Canon made multiple tactical errors with their camera/lens lineup for EOS still cameras.

What do I mean by that?

The 24-70/2.8II would have been in the planning for quite some number of years prior and at that time Tamron was developing their 24-70/2.8 VC. Come announcement time, Canon delivers a lens at around twice the price of the Tamron with marginally better IQ and no image stabilisation. Oops. Tamron out played Canon.

The announcement of the 5D Mark III delivered a camera with marginally more pixels and almost the same IQ as the 5D Mark II. Sure the autofocus is better, but it has been outclassed by Nikon's D800 that intro'd at $600 less, only for the 5D Mark III to have since dropped in price to match the Nikon. Oops, Canon picked the wrong sensor to put in the 5D Mark III. Nikon out played Canon.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS [CR1]
« on: October 30, 2012, 03:11:26 AM »
The argument that a 24-70/2.8 doesn't need IS for hand held photography because you typically want to shoot subjects with at least 1/80 fades away when higher resolution sensors are considered.

Without IS, some would recommend that 1/150 is currently required if you want to shoot a wedding with 70mm on a 5D Mark III and not end up with pixel blur today and that there is already an argument for the 24-70 needing IS with the 5D Mark III.

For example, if Canon were to come out with a 46MP DSLR next year, you should expect that without IS to need 1/150 or 1/200 at a minimum to avoid pixel blur on the sensor when shooting hand held at 70mm.

IS in the lens will combat that problem and should deliver sharp pictures at 1/80.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: The 5D Mark II & 5D Mark III Get Cheaper
« on: October 29, 2012, 09:39:49 AM »
So, buying cameras as an investment... how is that working out for all of those that bought the 5D3 already?

-1......NEVER. Buy it as  a tool, not investment.

You obviously don't read a lot of posts on here... people regularly buy cameras and lenses as an investment.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: The 5D Mark II & 5D Mark III Get Cheaper
« on: October 29, 2012, 07:17:33 AM »
So, buying cameras as an investment... how is that working out for all of those that bought the 5D3 already?

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Canon General / Re: How to work around Canon shipping restrictions at B&H
« on: October 20, 2012, 05:18:24 AM »
Today, equipment bought in Europe are covered by the warranty here, but not the US bought items. Hence, the risk has gotten higher, since you now have to ship the equipment to the U.S. if anything goes astray.

So if I live in Norway, take my camera with me to Los Angeles for a four week holiday and have an issue with it early on in the trip, I can't have it repaired under warranty at Canon service center in Irvine, California? (Irvine is part of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area.) If so then that sucks. Rinse and repeat if I change the country in which I live within the warranty period of newly purchased Canon equipment.

Not sure if it goes that way. If you bought it in Norway, I am not sure what kind of warranty you would be covered under during your holiday. It is rather that for equipment bought in the US taken back to Norway that are not covered in Europe anymore (a thing they implemented two years ago to stop people from buying in the US).


So if I live in California, take my camera with me to Europe for a four week holiday and have an issue with it early on in the trip, I can't have it repaired under warranty at Canon service center Europe?

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Canon General / Re: How to work around Canon shipping restrictions at B&H
« on: October 20, 2012, 12:09:08 AM »
Part of the situation is the country of issue for the credit card.  I would not give that to a 3rd party.  Don't know if B&H will accept Canadian Credit cards.

I would imagine if you showed up in NYC with your credit card they would take it.  But the billing address compared to the shipping address might be a problem.

I errr, have a friend, who has often bought with a Canadian credit card that has a Canadian billing address and shipped to another friend in Boston. My, errr, friend never had a problem - at least in the past.

Yes, many credit card companies allow you to specify a shipping address that is different to the billing address as part of your account.

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Canon General / Re: How to work around Canon shipping restrictions at B&H
« on: October 20, 2012, 12:06:02 AM »
Today, equipment bought in Europe are covered by the warranty here, but not the US bought items. Hence, the risk has gotten higher, since you now have to ship the equipment to the U.S. if anything goes astray.

So if I live in Norway, take my camera with me to Los Angeles for a four week holiday and have an issue with it early on in the trip, I can't have it repaired under warranty at Canon service center in Irvine, California? (Irvine is part of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area.) If so then that sucks. Rinse and repeat if I change the country in which I live within the warranty period of newly purchased Canon equipment.

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Canon General / Re: How to work around Canon shipping restrictions at B&H
« on: October 20, 2012, 12:02:01 AM »
But the billing address compared to the shipping address might be a problem.

There are two answers to this problem.

The first is that some of the same companies that are doing the forwarding of parcels from US addresses to foreign addresses are also providing credit cards or credit card numbers to be used for online purchases.

The second is that if you call up your credit card company and tell them in advance that you are having something shipped to a specific address, there will not be a problem. I've had goods shipped to me whilst I've stayed at a hotel using an online store and that was possible because I contacted the credit card company (American Express) in advance and told them to approve the sale.

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Canon General / Does Minimum Advertised Price apply to auctions?
« on: October 19, 2012, 07:20:01 PM »
I can't help but feel Canon's move here is in response to both Beach and Adorama selling a lot of 5D Mark III's for a substantially less price than they normally do. This would quite likely led to lots of calls from Canadian (r)etailers bitching about how they are being undersold and can't do a thing about it.

It could also be that Canon (USA) is planning to reduce the cost of certain items to further selling more of them but this seems unlikely.

Be that as it may, I can't help but wonder if "MAP" applies to auction websites such as eBay and if it doesn't then there's a backdoor here that is still wide open.

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