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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Watch those CF pins on your 5D3
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:50:20 AM »
I've was bitten by this in the first month we had our 5D3. I put a CF card in and the camera wouldn't function. It would turn on, but then nothing could be set (e.g., ISO, aperature). Movie function wouldn't turn on. When I turned it off, it wouldn't come back on. Pulled battery and same thing. Called Canon. They were no help, but did issue an Repair ticket immediately. Just after hanging up with them, I pulled the CF card and battery. When I put only an SD card in, the camera operated fine (with battery, of course). When I looked into the CF slot, I could see the bent pin touching the side of the slot and, apparently causing a short.

Canon repaired it quickly under warranty. Total turn around, including shipping, was about a week.

Bottom line: I put CF cards in very gently now.

It seems that if the problem is so pervasive that Canon might consider a recall.

Do you think those who paid $12,995 for a 1Dc are now happy in the knowledge that they bought a 1DX running a slightly modified OS?

Maybe. But perhaps those who bought a 1DX at half the price of a 1DC figure they got a bargain, by your reasoning. But, either way, this misses the entire point.

The price of a 1DX compared to a 1DC isn't the relevant comparison. At this time, I cannot buy a 1DX and get the capabilities of a 1DC. Canon sells hardware and software bundled together, not separately (yet). The relevant choices for someone who wants/needs the features of the 1DX are competitors to the 1DC. And this is the relevant benchmark by which Canon should price its products.

If you don't think one of Canon's products is worth its price. Don't buy it. Don't accuse them of immorality or a lack of ethics. And, for those who bemoan the capitalist system: Keep in mind that if it weren't for such a system, you wouldn't have the product development advances that this industry has experienced. Without a profit motive, there is no advancement of the technology. Some might say they agree with this and then try to claim that the profit Canon seeks is beyond "fair." The market (those who demand exchanging with those who supply) determines what is fair. Any profit beyond "fair" is not realized.

I don't see the justification for outrage toward Canon for charging more for certain features in one set of firmware compared to another. As others have pointed out, this is exactly what software is. If it hasn't been mentioned already, MS Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, etc. is just another example.

What I find disappointing by Canon is the decision (so far) to not sell an "upgrade", or more appropriately, a "conversion" kit for a 1DX to make it a 1DC.

Indeed, a la carte pricing (see, for example, the smartphone in your hand) might just be on the horizon. With Magic Lantern, we almost have this (never minding the fact that this system is, by no means, "open" or built for apps).

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Shooting both in front and behind yourself?
« on: September 20, 2012, 04:05:24 PM »
I wouldn't expect great results. Yes, out of 1000 pictures, there MIGHT be a couple of keepers. In essence, you might get lucky. But, this sounds an awful lot like you have taken the most important piece of equipment out of the equation: the photographer's eye.

If it were this easy to get a good shot, then why doesn't your employer (or whoever has hired the photographer to take pictures) just mount 1, 2, 3,... heck, 20, cameras on a stick at the stadium, pointed at different angles and areas, and set it to take pictures every few seconds, rather than paying the photographer?

I don't earn my living with my camera. But if I did, I would find this idea either somewhat insulting, or more likely, just plain naive. It reminds me of a comment I've overheard people make when meaning to compliment a photographer by saying, "You have a really nice camera. It sure takes nice pictures."

In short, my view is that the idea you started with - "look behind you" - means just that. And, thank you for that reminder, because it is good advice that I often forget!

Do ya'll have any links to good sites showing how to set up the Marvel, Neutral and Faithful settings on the Canon 5D3?

Setting up the picture style isn't difficult. You shouldn't need more than this step-by-step instruction:

I found the other book you mentioned, by Hurkman: But was a bit concerned that with a publish date of might be a bit outdated with apparently so much happening in the past couple years...?

I think you meant that it was published in 2010. Cameras have changed in two years (although, not by much, in my opinion). But, color correction has not. Color correction is a method or skill. Not a technological advance based on a chip. It is something that goes back to the film days. The methods and approaches are not something that change significantly year to year based on some new technology. Some tools might change, but I suspect they won't change fast enough to make this book (or any other on color correction) outdated for some time. As you found, this isn't the only book on color correction. For me, it was and remains very helpful as I continue to learn more about color correction and improve my skills trying to achieve the look I want.

I also concur that Resolve might be overkill. If you are just learning to change the picture profile in your camera, then you are really biting off a lot in trying to learn Resolve. This is coming from someone who is comfortable hacking my Canon firmware, switching out and adjusting picture profiles, and using several different color correction tools - someone who found Resolve too cumbersome to bother with for his own purposes.

What editing software do you use? Perhaps trying to master its tools before learning on Resolve might bring you more immediate satisfaction - especially since you'll be able to apply the color correction and see the finished product without having to alter your workflow. Again, color correction is a method that can be applied with the tools in your NLE program. It doesn't have to be Resolve to be color correction.

EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is selling 5d3 for $2745 on eBay now
« on: September 17, 2012, 04:24:30 PM »
Chances are good that we will see more deals.  Its a way of reducing excess inventory without officially lowering the price.  As long as the economy is slow, Canon is going to have surpluses.

Thanks for the optimism! But, I'm still kicking myself over missing this one... I'll certainly be checking ebay more often now.

Color Correction Handbook by Alexis Van Hurkman was suggested in a couple of forums or blogs that I found about a year ago when I started wanting to learn more about color correction. It really is a good book. I read it through and only understood a little at first, but still learned a lot. I've found myself going back to it in the past year as I've learned more (or done more). For me, it was great. Technical enough, but not overly technical. Written for a professional, but understandable for a serious enthusiast. It uses Davinci and its control surface as its example "tool", but it is understandable and applicable to most color correction tools in NLEs. I haven't seriously read others, but I'm sure there are some. I did try Davinci Resolve lite. Steep learning curve. The Van Hurkman book is no tutorial on how to use Resolve. It is more a theory and practice book - not a "how to" on Resolve.

Regarding the picture style for the 5D3. I have used Technicolor Cinestyle a lot and have recently gone back to my favorite "flat" style: Marvel 3.4 (I knock the contrast down to its lowest, below its default level). To me, Marvel is only a little better than the one that gets suggested most often: Neutral (0, -4, -2, 0), which is the Canon built-in neutral style, with sharpness all the way down at 0, contrast all the way down at -4, saturation down by 2 clicks below 0, and the last one I don't even recall, since I've never seen it set to anything other than zero!

EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is selling 5d3 for $2745 on eBay now
« on: September 16, 2012, 12:40:38 PM »
Doh! After waiting to talk to my wife about it and her definitely approving of it, I went to order it... and it is now sold out!  :'(

EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* More Canon EOS 6D Specs Surface [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2012, 11:43:50 AM »
A lot of upset customers if they display nothing new?

Perhaps they will have a lot of upset former customers.  ;)

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sandisk QC lacking?
« on: September 13, 2012, 07:21:30 AM »
Where did you buy the cards from? 'Cuz I'd be suspecting that they just might be counterfeits....


One was from B&H and one was from Amazon. No indications that they are counterfeits. Both came with the usual RescuePro activation key.

Third Party Manufacturers / Sandisk QC lacking?
« on: September 12, 2012, 06:41:02 PM »
I have always relied on Sandisk SD cards. Other brands have let me down in not living up to the rated speeds. I have about a dozen Sandisk SD and CF cards.

However, my last two Sandisk SD cards (one an Extreme 32GB and the other an Extreme Pro 32GB) have both been DOA. Neither the camera nor the computer could format the cards. In the Extreme card case, the camera could see it, but reported an error. In the Extreme Pro case, the camera wouldn't even turn on. Had to pull the battery to get the camera back, indicating that the card itself had a short in it.

Had I just been lucky before, or is Sandisk quality slipping?

Regardless, any tips for a different reliable brand?

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern on the 5D Mark III
« on: September 12, 2012, 01:55:19 PM »
Just to reiterate what Marsu42's edit states. The first alpha version of ML for the 5D3 is out.

The other purpose of my posting is to say that ML is really on to some exciting stuff that is in development. They have just begun to access more encoder parameters (current release version allows the bitrate to be raised, but buffer overruns limit its current usefulness in some situations). Using development releases, I've tested recording in ALL-I on my 600D/T3i at bitrates above 150 Mb/s! The improved bitrates or less compression really helps to improve the image in post (e.g., sharpening and color correction).

There are still kinks to be worked out, but the things they are able to do are quite remarkable IMHO. There are even indications that 4:2:2 video (perhaps as MJPEG) might be possible. Alas, I think this is taking a back seat to getting all the current features working on the 5D3. Regardless, I think this bodes very well for what we'll be able to get out of the 5D3 (and all other supported cams) with ML.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: More Analysis of the C100
« on: September 11, 2012, 04:13:31 PM »
Just noticed that B&H has put a $6500 pre-order price on the C100 in the U.S.

While not $8000, it is still a hefty premium over a Sony FS100, even after paying for an EF mount adapter.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Grinding sound with the T3i
« on: September 05, 2012, 08:02:33 AM »
Auto sound levels will vastly amplify the sound on the recording in a quiet environment, but in reality you should barely hear the iris operate.

Agreed that a clip will help. I suspect it is the aperature changing. As Paul states, that is the only mechanical action left. I disagree that you would barely hear the iris operate. I certainly have some lenses where this could be characterized as a grinding sound. My Zeiss 85mm is quite loud when changing aperature. Indeed, it makes a grinding sound. But, I never use auto exposure while shooting video (and don't recommend using auto exposure for video). If this is the grinding sound, then you'll easily get rid of it by using manual exposure.

And, yes. You can set the 600D/T3i's audio manually without Magic Lantern.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Grinding sound with the T3i
« on: September 03, 2012, 12:58:40 PM »

But, to clarify: Is the sound coming from the camera (e.g., the lens) - meaning you hear it while recording? Or, is the sound captured on the recording? Is it associated with either the aperature or focus changing?

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