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And apparently the old workaround (run the 32 bit version of windows explorer) which used to work in vista no longer works in windows 7.

Software & Accessories / Re: DPP 3.9.2 en EOS Utility 2.9.0
« on: October 31, 2010, 07:02:49 AM »
New Canon-software for EOS is out!
Still no RAW-thumbnail-plugin for Windows 64bit OS.

And the current windows codec doesn't work with 60D raw files yet.

Software & Accessories / Re: What remote?
« on: October 25, 2010, 01:06:54 PM »
More factors to consider...

  • The IR remote can only be used from in front of the camera.
  • The wired remote cannot be used to start and stop movie recording (but the IR remote can)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 60D v. Nikon D7000
« on: October 11, 2010, 07:23:26 AM »
Sorry for whining once again, but I've got to rant on that new iPod style click wheel. It's terrible. And I dont think it's a situation where you'll get used to it and love it, it's just a bad implementation that is made worse because they already had a superior design that was unique to Canon. The Joystick.

The click wheel has two major issues.
1) Unresponsive - It requires a lot of effort in order to get it to respond and with such limited focus points it gets in the way. And getting to those diagonal focus zones is pretty tough because it just doesn't go diagonal very well. ESPECIALLY compared to the rubbery feel of the Canon Joystick or the Nikon direction pad that they use on their higher end models.

2) Location - I have normal sized hands but reaching the click-wheel is an awkward motion without having the left hand supporting the camera weight. I don't get why they felt putting a wheel INSIDE another wheel made sense but it was unecessary. Some apologists will say that it's because of the swivel screen but they could have easily designed this with both the swivel screen AND joystick.

I'm not trying to rip on the 60D. In fact, I'm still considering keeping it because of the huge price difference between this and the 7D. BUT, considering how many homeruns Canon has been hitting lately then I'm surprised that they released a product with so many problems (personal opinion). And I'm not sure if this means the Public may agree, but when the 7D came out it was sold out everywhere but at my local Best Buys then they've got stacks of 60D's.

I actually find it easier to select the corner focus points using the wheel compared to the joystick (I had a 50D before). I don't really have a problem with the position of the wheel, but I do wish it had some tactile feedback so that it feels like a positive click when you use it.

I use the camera in the dark so it will take me a while to find the new buttons by touch since they are more flush with the body now.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 60D v. Nikon D7000
« on: October 10, 2010, 02:42:47 AM »
You can go to either of the respectable review sites you mention and see that the shutter lifespan of the 7D is rated at 150,000 actuations, which is 50,000 more shutter actuations than the 60D.

I do apologise. I completely mis-understood your point. That should teach me to post on the internet last thing at night after a long day.

Sorry for disturbing the thread...


EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 60D v. Nikon D7000
« on: October 09, 2010, 05:42:32 PM »

  • Lifespan of 50,000 more shutter actuations

I don't know where your figure came from, but a quick web search shows respectable review sites (like The Digital Picture and Imaging Resource) quoting the 60D shutter lifetime as 100000 cycles, the same as the 50D.

Perhaps you have a reference for this?

EOS Bodies / Re: Photokina 2010 Continued
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:30:51 PM »
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a comparison that includes the new Panasonic GH2 as a smaller option. I'd like to see whether the image quality is comparable.

GH2 ain't too small, buddy!

Looks pretty small in this image compared to a 60D (from the gh2 preview on dpreview)... just over half the weight too.

I realise it's not as small as the GF1 or Sonys, but it's got the new sensor and I want to see how the images compare.

EOS Bodies / Re: Photokina 2010 Continued
« on: September 21, 2010, 01:43:40 PM »
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a comparison that includes the new Panasonic GH2 as a smaller option. I'd like to see whether the image quality is comparable.

oh and, i suppose the other thing i was keen to find out if anyone can help me:

a) is there a trend for how a camera like the 60d (based on other XXD models) changes in price over a period of time? is there a point after announcement when its better to wait till for the best value?

b) in the same way, is it likely (and by how much) that the 5d mkII will take a vast drop in price if a mkIII is released? again is there previous examples by which to go by?

knowing this would help me decide what to do also

Have a look on camera price buster. They show price graphs over the last two years so you can see what the trends are. I concluded that new bodies drop 20% in the first two months (roughly, sometimes more or less, sometimes faster).


EOS Bodies / Re: 60D availability
« on: September 18, 2010, 12:44:58 PM »
They are in stock at high street shops in the UK now... London Camera Exchange and Jessops have them.

I tried one in the shop... noticeably lighter than my 50D but handles pretty much the same.

EOS Bodies / Re: The 60D Needs AF Microadjustment
« on: September 17, 2010, 01:03:29 PM »
OK, my real life experience is that I spent an afternoon testing about eight lenses with my 50D, a mixture of zooms and primes, all Canon. I could not detect any consistent front or back focus with any of them and left all the settings at zero.

I did learn about the sorts of features that need to be under the AF point for reliable focusing.

It wasn't very exciting...

EOS Bodies / Re: 60D availability
« on: September 15, 2010, 12:41:28 PM »
Amazon UK says 25th October, so it seems to vary around the world.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:23:09 AM »
It is interesting, but obviously there are so many open questions...

EOS Bodies / Re: 60D better sensor than the 7D?
« on: September 05, 2010, 09:59:07 AM »
I have read in a couple of places that the 60D uses the same low pass filter as the 7D, so maybe the "slightly re-engineered" quote is with respect to the 550D? We'll find out in the detailed reviews...

EOS Bodies / Re: The 60D Needs AF Microadjustment
« on: September 01, 2010, 05:28:53 AM »
Canon surely can count on lots of people getting the 60D, but for people with memory about previous series upgrades, the $400 more for the 7D over the 50D's introductory price (which is now a $600 gap) is forcing many photographers into a lower bracket - sticking with the x0 series will surprise some photographers as how much has changed compared to the previous model, for good and ill.  Some of it's more functional for the type of shooting many people utilize today - pentamirror and tiltable screen versus pentaprism and a fixed screen - but certainly this shakeup has left many people feeling more uncertain than before when selecting their next model of DSLR.

Hi Edwin,

I made it through your posts and I just wanted to make a couple of comments on the trade-offs between models.
The 60D has a pentaprism, just like the 50D. I'm expecting the viewfinders to be identical and this would be a noticeable improvement over the 500D (and definitely over my 1000D). The 7D has an even larger pentaprism for its 100% view.

The 60D uses the same battery as the 7D and gets more shots out of it (1100 vs 800) and this is a big improvement over the 50D battery life.

I think the cameras all have a metal frame inside. The 50D and 7D have outer magnesium alloy body panels and the other cameras have reinforced resin panels. The 60D's internal frame is aluminium rather than steel, to reduce mass I suppose. I hadn't heard of the heat dissipation factor before, but then I don't shoot video with my 50D :)

All the information I quoted came from the spec sheets on the Canon UK website.


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