The canon Refurb store has them for 375$, I'm currently selling off my old speedlites to pickup a set of refurb 600's.
I'm on notice.
Dang.....says out of stock now.
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I've just brought it - having it with is more fun than not.
(With that said, I have contemplated an Outex cover a couple of times. http://outex.com/ )
I was just thinking that you could probably batch the .DNG files not just in AE/ACR but in PS/ACR with with full PS power and various other plug-ins and have video frames processed with full on stills photography quality tools and all sorts of fancy, fancy processing and super advanced sharperning, NR, coloring tools.
Ding, ding, ding!
I'm mainly a stills photographer but I’ve been starting to get into timelapse and video over the past year.
You are EXACTLY right. This is HUGE for people that are mainly stills photographers. Just as you describe, you can process this raw video EXACTLY like you can stils. Exactly. This is driving the video people nuts, but it’s huge for me. The workflow is a bit complex but not as hard and time consuming as you’d expect. I’ve made one crappy comparison video (will post later). Here is my workflow:
1) Shoot video, staying under 2GB (it tells you in real-time how much space it’s hogging)
2) Convert .RAW file into .dng files using raw2dng. TIME: about a minute
3) Import .dng files into Lightroom (this is where my workflow is a bit different than most…) TIME: about a minute
4) Process .dng files just like you would a raw from a camera…because that is exactly what they are. (I convert my Canon .CR2 files into .dng files anyway) TIME: how many images have you edited in LR?
5) Export .dng files as full-res jpegs TIME: a couple minutes (I guess if you were really anal about quality but not about HDD space you could convert to .tif's)
6) Import full-res jpegs into Quicktime 7 Pro as an image sequence (exact same way you make a time-lapse) TIME: one second
7) Export image sequence as Apple ProRes HQ 422 .mov’s (if you don’t’ want to do any video editing you can just export these as h264-compressed .mov’s or .mp4’s instead) TIME: a couple seconds for ProRes, a couple minutes for h264
Import Apple ProRes 422 .mov’s into Final Cut Pro X TIME: instant
9) Edit… TIME: see LR comment, I suck at video editing
10 Export to whatever format you want TIME: a couple minutes
Can anyone recommend a good book on the topic (video lighting)? Clearly there's a bit more of a learning curve that I anticipated.
ML RAW gives MUCH better quality, have to blind AND not trying to not instantly see the difference. The Ninja 2 1.2.1 external recording stuff is a minor little difference that most times you have to reallllly look to notice and well a basic static shot and you'd be hard pressed to see much difference but with ML the difference leaps out at you.
Of course the Ninja 2 does record gobs of footage at once and is tres easy to handle and you don't need to do slow pr-processing step for every little minute clip (OTOH that slow pre-process also is done with full power of ACR and even ACR and PS so you can get things so good that you don't even need to process anything in PP or use any slow tools there which does greatly speed up final compression time in PP so you gain some time back there, it's just it is a bit nicer to have the slow stage later rather than earlier, but whatever).
But most people have been kinda hmm eh I mean I guess a little about the HDMI+Ninja 2 and like OMG!!!!!!!!!!! about the ML RAW.
Once ML works with 1.2.1 the Ninja would make a nice zebra/focus peaking monitor though over HDMI since, at least for now, the ML RAW hack tends to crap out earlier at times if you try to force it's focus peaking and zebras and fancy stuff to run full force at the same time as the ML RAW is going.
If you do run 1.2.1 over HDMI I think the Atmos Ninja 2 type stuff is the way to go over the Black Magic for various reasons.
But man that ML RAW is just wow!
I wonder if they will find a way to feed the HDMI out with a less mangled signal. It would have to be 10bits at most and probably 8bits since I bet Canon didn't use HDMI 1.3 although who knows 1.3 is ubiquitous these days. It seems criminal that it took Canon six months to get the same crappy singnal out of HDMI and ML gives us this RAW stuff in three weeks. Perhaps the digic chip just utterly sucks at debayer and processing (in cam jpgs were never nearly as crips as RAW, but then again they do seem much better than the video stuff so....) and maybe that is why they say they do not use digic in C300 but use older video cam chips for processing?? (but still the in cam jpgs are better than the video they get out of it so....)
That said they did slightly tweak the video for 1.2.1 so whether hmdi or internal it does produce a bit better signal than it does with the older firmware. (which also reminds me DO NOT compare 1.2.1 HDMI Ninja 2 footage to pre-1.2.1 internally recorded footage since that footage is worse than the new internal footage quality).
Warning: Komputerbay 128GB cards are too slow. They won't work for this. I hear their smaller sized cards are faster though.
Magic Lantern RAW video for the Canon EOS 5D Mark III comes to the Mac & OSX
This was very helpful. It looks like the RAW workflow is starting to take shape!
I want to preface my next question by saying that I'm a video n00b. Should I do most of my tonal/color adjustments in ACR, or should I wait until I have the footage in AE/Premiere and do most of it in Davinci Resolve, MB Looks, etc.? Does it matter where I do it? My instincts tell me that there are two competing issues:
1. Which program is better at a specific task (e.g., recovering blown out clouds).
2. Flexibility of not having to go upstream to make changes to footage and then re-import downstream. For example, if I do my tonal/color work in ACR, won't that mean I have to go back-and-forth, rather than being able to quickly make adjustments via plugin without the extra step of re-importing?
Again... I'm just a n00b here. :-)
USB 2.0 maxes out at 40-45MB/s
At 1920x1080, I'm getting 60-90MB/s
Don't think it will happen unfortunately.
The most frustrating part of shooting this video right now is that raw2dng app. It will not recognize clips bigger than 2GB in the OSX version, which really limits what you can do!
Or maybe it just means I'm a sloppy shooter
Does anyone know if this kind of shooting could be possible on the 6D in the future?
By the way, fantastic job (again) to the ML team!
They said they're working on other cameras as well, and there is a limited build for the 5DII, and appears to be working well, albeit not as good as the 5D3. The problem though here is with the cards, SDs don't go as fast as CF and even then you need the fasted available CF cards. So the SD only 6D may not work well. Though, lower resolution with the fasted SD cards could work, not sure, much is in development with so many changes coming so quick~
Thanks for the respond! Makes me regret a bit buying the 6D a few weeks ago
Do you think with HDMI out, the writing speed could be fast enough? That might be a solution to get pass the SDs lower writing speed.