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I ordered the charger from a brand called Lemix - I'll let you guys know.

BTW, the Sony kit lens has been widely reported as terrible and subpar. If you want to really enjoy the sensor you have to get the Zeiss 35/2.8 or adapt something from Canon/Nikon/Leica etc...


Not arguing, but thinking aloud that 300 should be enough with planning for a smaller package.

Sure, depending what and how you shoot. However, IMHO,  more buyers than not will buy the A7/A7R and end up shooting zero.  I suspect it will be bought by wealthy hobbyists, most of whom don't shoot much anyway.

Wonder why you feel that? It is actually one of the cheapest options around for this quality. The wealthy who want to buy for the sake of buying have Leica.


The a7 is actually the cheapest FF available - at least here in Europe.

I ordered the a7 and a Novoflex adapter for my Nokton 58/1.4. I also preordered the Zeiss 24-70 zoom.

I'll play with the a7/Nokton combo over christmas. Let's see if I can get good results focusing at f/1.4.

Anyone has used the new Metabones smart adapter, the one supporting AF? I imagine it would be slower, but I'm interested to hear about accuracy.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sony has 54MP FF sensor next in line
« on: December 06, 2013, 02:49:05 PM »
Am I the only one who is impressed (read: terrified) by the 2460 focusing points?

Been shooting all week with it now. Dynamic range over a stop better than my 1dx. Noise is similar.

Summary from a Canon Landscape Photographer

Sony A7R Cons:

- Needs battery grip to balance EF lenses properly.
- Slow autofocus with Metabones Adaptor. One shot AF is slow and AI servo is not accurate.
- Only 4 fps, so not suitable for sport
- Battery charger not included. The battery charges from either an AC or USB source, in camera. Separate charger is $79. If you have a battery grip and don’t have a separate charger, you need to remove the grip and place individual batteries in the camera body to charge.

Sony A7R Pros:

- When used with native FE lenses there is fast and accurate AF. It is a perfect setup for street photography. Remove the grip, and you’re good to go incognito.
- Fantastic Sensor with great dynamic range. Arguably the best of any current DSLR.
- Low noise. ISO up to 51200, still very usable
- 36.4 megapixel sensor – over 50% more than any current Canon DSLR sensor.
- When used with a grip, EF lenses (up to 100mm) balances well.
- Excellent EVF, Easy to manual focus with focus magnifier
- Customizable buttons and controls.
- Cost $2398.00 AUD – likely to be 1/3 the price of any future large megapixel Canon offering.

In Summary:

A great addition to the kit of any current Canon Landscape Photographer, particularly if your clients favour large prints. You can use all your existing favourite EF lenses, and manual focus is easy and quick. Factor in the cost of a grip, extra battery and an external charger though.

Thanks Light and Motion, this is exactly the kind of info I've been looking for.  I'm primarily a landscape shooter as well and without much money to spend on the hobby am looking for the biggest bang for my buck in whatever I end up getting.  I couldn't decide between a 5D3 or a 6D but once Sony announced the A7R I've been anxiously awaiting to hear how it performs in the landscape arena. 

I'd be interested to see any of your landscape shots that you've taken with it!

You can read reviews around.

For slow, controlled situations like landscapes the a7r is the absolute best.


It's not carrying the extra battery, so much as having to use the camera to charge it.  If the battery is built in, fine, but for an item with a removeable, rechargeable battery to ship withouth a standalone charger is just annoying.  It's more personaly preference than anything - if I shot tethered all the time, being able to plug the camera in without spending extra money for a separate AC adapter would be annoying. 

I agree with you that not including a battery charger was unelegant. Even more unelegant is selling one for 79$. Seems that sony has stepped up their engineering department but not the marketing guys. However, I imagine third-party units will storm the market pretty soon.

The good news about a battery grip is that it completely discharges 1 battery before touching the other. This is a very good thing, because it means that at the end of the day you won't have 2 half dead batteries.

Anyway the battery life should be >300 shots if you don't keep the LCD on all the time. It's nothing like a good DSLR, but it covers reasonably for 1 day, even more if you have a second battery.

Sony A7R Cons:
- Battery charger not included. The battery charges from either an AC or USB source, in camera. Separate charger is $79.

On top of crap battery life, you have to plug the camera in to charge the battery…Sony, WTF?!?
I´m not sure this is a bad thing. A camera like this will attract a different user community than a 1DX. These users will not fire off high fps series shooting wildlife, birds or sports, but rather use it as a walk around on a vacation, for family arrangements, street photography etc. That will primarily mean single shots and not in the thousands.

Personally when walking around on vacation, if I'm out walking around, I want my camera with me, and if I'm not out walking around, I'm sleeping.  On many vacations, I average well over 300 shots per day - kinda hard on a 200 shot battery, right?  When out shooting landscapes/architecture, I use battery power at a faster rate than the number of shots would imply, due to time spent composing, tilting and shifting in Live View.

OTOH, having the ability to charge via USB in addition to a standalone charger is a nice feature, given that there are charging stations in airports, etc. (in fact, in a park in downwotn Boston, there are chairs with solar-powered USB chargers!).

If you don't mind carrying around a truckload of equipment, surely carrying just an extra battery won't be a deal breaker?

I don't see from your pictures, with lens attached, how a 3% reduction in depth and 10% reduction width turns a dslr from 'huge' into compact. If anything it looks like it would take up nearly the same amount of space with lens  in the bag but have an inferior grip.  Less weight is nice, but when you are talking 900g vs 550g with lens, I think even the weakest person would be okay with either.

on the other hand, slap a 70-200 f/2.8 on both and I think you will see the ergonomics of the a7 fail big time!

Maybe a 70-200/2.8 is not the go-to lens for everybody? Most of my shots are either <100mm (95%) or >200mm (5%). I'm keeping my DSLR for use with telezooms, but I'm happily in the process of swapping my other lenses for an a7 body and I preordered the Zeiss 24-70/4.

EchoLocation has nailed it perfectly. Hike up and down mountains for a whole day and see if you don't notice the difference - and it has nothing to do with physical strength, since you don't hike naked holding an empty backpack.

It might not reflect your own priorities, but for many people it has been a blessing. I don't know why in this forum people think that their experiences/preferences must be the rule for the whole world.

Software & Accessories / Re: Good idea to upgrade to LR5? Regrets?
« on: December 04, 2013, 11:54:49 AM »
It runs faster than LR4 and the radial filter itself is worth the money :)

It's worth remembering that the guy spoke in very hypothetical terms. There is no prophecy of doom, although maybe a little enjoyment in seeing the market segment that jeopardized them being jeopardized in return.

However, even 1 year ago, when DSLR market was growing double-digit year-to-year, nobody would have imagined what happened this year. Consumer electronics is an ever volatile market.

As somebody mentioned before, film is not dead - Leica still has around 650 order a year. It has however become a real niche market, and the possibility that one day DSLR will be the same is not to be discarded. How many people, after all, invest in 300mm f/2.8 and the like? The whole world goes towards portability, networking and software functionality; something smartphones are teaching the hard way to camera manufacturers.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon abandoned EOS M?
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:14:47 AM »
Considering the enormous price drop, the non-release of EF-M 11-22 in the USA, and EF-M 22mm discontinued in BH site, it seems to me that the EOS-M system will be abandoned soon. What do you think?

The EOS-M has not been abandoned, it has yet to start.

It has been launched as a "me too" product. Its best selling point is the Canon branding.

Mind you, an APS-C sized sensor offers better long-term appeal than, say, the 1" sensor adopted by Nikon. At the current price it is actually a decent value for money. But without compelling bodies and lenses it's not going anywhere. Can't compete with the Fuji or NEX systems.

I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).

I'm pretty sure Canon agrees with this assessment, that's why they're putting r&d into on-sensor af performance and tend to recycle their phase af modules no matter what Nikon does.

It depends on whether Canon and Nikon realize that they're not competing only with each other any more. They have been passing the ball between each other and set the tune for everyone to dance to, but little by little other manufacturers have gone the right way: instead of competing with them, they made their own game.

They arrived late at the mirrorless party. Nikon went with the 1" system that sold well at the beginning, but eventually lost the long term competition. The EOS-M has never really taken off.

Now they have to play catching up again. I don't know if DSLR will be dead in 10 years, but it is possible that they will become a niche market dependent on specialized lenses. It seems reasonable to me, looking at reviews of the a7 pair, that in a few years from now the reasons to buy a DSLR might be very few.

I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).
I believe that all the manufacturers are working on doing this and have a list of critical items that need to be addressed for it to happen.  We can see some of the results with the first generation double pixel technology, and the newer EVO's.  Its merely a question as to when the point will be reached where a reflex design is no longer necessary to get high end performance.


And except for AF speed and fps, the a7 is the proof that we are already there.

Typical DPReview.

"The Df is a bit silly"

"The Df is one of the most interesting cameras of the year"


I don't find it silly, but I find it overly retro (seriously, retro should be the inspiration, but there's no good in going back to the manufacturing limitations of the 60s) and with a price that hardly reflects the spec sheet. Also, besides the design, the overall functionality doesn't seem to support manual lenses all that much.

EOS Bodies / Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« on: November 28, 2013, 09:09:41 AM »
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<p><strong>Two new full frame cameras coming?<br />

</strong>We <a href=\"\" target=\"_blank\">see talk of two new full frame cameras</a> coming in 2014 with availability in the early part of 2015. It’s mentioned that the EOS 5D Mark III would move up the spec ladder once again, but wouldn’t be the camera for “total image quality”. That would be saved for studio based EOS-1 body that is coming next year.</p>
<p>There is no chance of an EOS-3D according to this report. Although medium format is “still an option”. This information apparently comes from a higher end dealer presentation that occurred in Japan.</p>
<p>This is the first mention we’ve seen for an EOS 5D Mark IV. If two new full frame cameras are on the horizon and one is an EOS-1DXs type of body, what could the other one be? I’m willing to wager the EOS 6D won’t be replaced before the EOS 5D Mark III or EOS-1D X.</p>
<p>I assume he above report doesn’t consider the Cinema EOS branded EOS-1D C as one of the “full frame” cameras.</p>
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The new high-MP 1D body and a 5DIV actually make for 2 new FF bodies. Did I miss something?

The 5D3 is from March 2012, a replacement in early 2015 is in line with the usual 3-year lifespan.

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