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"But the MkII is just as good for stills and costs $1600 less."

They've clearly not used both cameras. Or perhaps they just shoot at ISO 100.

I've tried to argue this point time and time again.  The 5D2 isn't as good as anything regarding the 5D3.  The 5D2 isn't a bad camera.  The 5D3 just happens to be better, at everything.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX or 85mm 1.2?
« on: August 09, 2012, 09:39:14 AM »
Hi Jaayres20,

Since people here have already given you some really good information about the 1Dx, 85mm 1.2, 5D3, etc. and how all that might work together, let me offer you a different suggestion that nobody has suggested yet.  What about the possibility of not getting anything new at all at this point?  I'm not trying to be smug or mean spirited, but rather trying to give what I feel is really good advice given your current setup.  Even you admit you have plenty of gear to make amazing pictures.

I think sometimes when we have too much gear we tend to lose focus of why we have them in the first place and how we might grow to better use them.  I hear you, it is totally tempting to try out and want to use all the cool new things out there, but in truth if your end goal is to make compelling and thoughtful images for your client and yourself none of us really need as much gear as most of us probably already have.

If you don't have much money and this would put a burden on you that will in the long run diminish your enjoyment of the craft as you will constantly worry about what you sacrificed to attain all of that gear.  And even if you do have the money to keep buying whatever you want, I still argue that constantly chasing after new pieces of gear can ultimately hurt your ability to focus on making great use of the gear you already own.  Because when we get new pieces of gear, we often do tons of tests and wonder why it does this or why it does that or why it doesn't do this right or as well as that other piece of gear, or why some people seem to be having great success with it and others not....you get the point right?  Stuff, (not just photography gear) has a tendency of complicating our lives and we often end up being obsessed (as you rightly observed) with the things themselves rather than the more important stories that we were meant to create with them.

One of the most famous current wedding photographer by the name of Jeff Ascough (http://www.jeffascough.com) had once said in an interview that he shoots about 95% of all his wedding on a 24mm 1.4 and a 50mm 1.2.  His wedding work is inspired to be sure.  Even the great HCB used mainly a 35mm or 50mm lens his entire career and he is considered by many in our field as one of the greatest human photographer of all time.

I'm not trying to preach to you---lord knows I feel the same impulse as you, but nobody was giving you the advice that I think would best benefit you as a photographer---and that is to learn to use the gear you already have so expertly that you will eventually forget the gear all together and instead focus on the craft and narrative of our subjects and ourselves---after all isn't that really our goal as photographers?

Just my two cents.  All the best to you and I hope you create wonderful images with the fantastic setup you already have.

I am a wedding photographer and have two 5D mark IIIs, a 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, a 50mm 1.2L, a 24mm 1.4L, a 100mm f/2.8L IS and three 600ex-rt flashes.  I have more than what I need to take amazing pictures in almost any situation but I after I buy something I find myself looking to the next thing to buy.  I don't know what is wrong with me it is like a disease.  I know I am crazy and should just be content with what I have.  So if you were in my situation and you were going to buy something new would you sell one of the 5D3s and get a 1DX or would you buy the 85mm 1.2?  I am a little afraid the 85mm 1.2 will be a little slow focusing at receptions similar to the 50mm 1.2.  I just don't understand that my 70-200 and 24mm are able to focus really well in almost no light but the 50mm is very slow and unreliable.  If the 85mm is anything like the 50mm in that regard it may change my decision.  I would love to use it for portraits and almost always shoot at very large apertures.  As a matter of fact I love a shallow DOF so much that I usually shoot two or three Brenizer method images each wedding to get the effect of f/0.5 or f/0.6.   

Excellent different view and great piece of advice.  I finally had to realize this and sold 3 camera bodies that I was not letting go of.  I'm much happier and more specialized now for what I really need to do.  Great post.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 09, 2012, 09:34:54 AM »
Brian,

I think you'll find the 1DX will come up short vs. the 1Ds3 at low ISO's, just like the 5D3 did.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX or 85mm 1.2?
« on: August 09, 2012, 12:39:09 AM »
If you're going to shoot at f8.0, why would you need an f1.2 lens?

You don't.  But the 85L is way sharper at all apertures than any lens at 85mm.  Nobody really cares about the max aperture, it's the lens overall. 

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Probably gonna need a 64TB card for this one.

+1

Nikon are you listening????????????  The D800 is soooooooooo crap now!

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Lenses / Re: First L Lens... OH MY #^(*^!& GOD
« on: August 08, 2012, 11:03:21 PM »
I found that after I purchased the 24L, I hardly ever use the 16-35L zoom lens anymore.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX or 85mm 1.2?
« on: August 08, 2012, 11:01:22 PM »
I have more than what I need to take amazing pictures in almost any situation but I after I buy something I find myself looking to the next thing to buy.  I don't know what is wrong with me it is like a disease.  I know I am crazy and should just be content with what I have.  So if you were in my situation and you were going to buy something new would you sell one of the 5D3s and get a 1DX or would you buy the 85mm 1.2?  I am a little afraid the 85mm 1.2 will be a little slow focusing at receptions similar to the 50mm 1.2.

Well, I think most of us here feel exactly the same way.  I know I do! 

I'm not a Wedding Photographer, but I was a Wedding Videographer for a few years, so I can relate to the importance of capturing those once in a lifetime photos.  There's no do-over.  I have the 85mm f/1.2L II and I shot my friends Wedding as a second shooter, but unaffiliated with the wedding photographer, so I was able to play around and let me tell you I would not trust the 85mm 1.2 for critical moments during the ceremony or reception, but it definitely can find a place in your kit, for portraits, candids, rings, non-critical reception shots, flowers and things like that.

Of course you can nail great shots with or without pre-focusing and I have, but I wouldn't trust it down the Aisle. It's heavy, the DOF is thin, and it's slow, but when you do nail it, it's spectacular.

The 1DX is obviously an Awesome Camera and I can certainly see you selling one of your 5DIII's for it, but it's also a bit heavy to shoot with all day, and you should also consider that if you shoot with two cameras at the same time, then switching from the 1DX to the 5DIII quickly may present some confusion, and the 1DX will definitely feel heavier on your shoulder, especially with the 85mm f/1.2L attached.

However, I really do love the 1DX and 85mm f/1.2L II.  I'm not trying to talk you out of either.  I'm just adding some of my thoughts for you to consider.

If I did have to pick one then I would recommend the 85mm 1.2L II.

Rich

Please elaborate on how the DOF is thin on a lens?  If my basic photography understanding is somewhat accurate, wouldn't that depend on aperture??  Bride down the aisle is no problem with f/8.  You just have to know where to meter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 08, 2012, 08:45:52 PM »
bdunbar79 has some good experience and insight to the question. Both would be good for what you want other than the tungsten issue he mentions, so it comes down to cost and features.
What are the prices of a 1dm3 Vs 5dm3?
Do you need bullet proof build?
As far as portraits and landscapes the edge may go to the 1dm3
Do you need new features of the 5dm3?
Is weight an issue?
Given what you want it for high iso isn't needed.
Both have good focus but the edge would go to 5dm3 and its spot focus as well as live view focus for portraits that allow you to see extremely zoomed in on the 5dm3.
You just need to do a checklist of wants and see where things end up.

Hey Bosman,

Yeah you're absolutely right.  For me, it came down to selling the 1Ds3 or 5D3.  (I had 2 x 5D3 and 1Ds3).  I automatically selected the 1Ds3 as first to sell.  I could have sold both 5D3's and kept 1DX/1Ds3 but I instead chose to go 1DX/5D3 combo.  The 5D3 overall is just better.  I'm sure you know this as you shoot quite a bit with the 5D3 too.  The sale was just an automatic and obvious choice in my head right away for some reason.  1Ds3 images can get ugly above ISO 800 and 1600 and let's be honest, to most people the 5D3 and 1Ds3 images look about the same from ISO 50-400.  Only us pixel-peepers can see the difference in color rendition.  Landscape shots do look a bit better if examining very closely.  But yes, overall the 5D3 wins.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX or 85mm 1.2?
« on: August 08, 2012, 08:39:38 PM »
I personally wouldn't buy a 1DX if I had two 5D3's if I only shot weddings.  The 5D3 does this very, very well.  I have a 1DX because I do (or will be doing) a ton of college sports.  I need the speed and ruggedness.  The 1DX won't improve the 5D3 at wedding photography.  I do, however, use the 85L lens at weddings and absolutely love it.  I like the bride up the aisle view with this lens.  I take the shot and then in post just crop it a tad bit.  It is a super sharp lens. 

I would consider keeping both cameras and yes, buying the 85L, but not for main use at the reception.  Use that lens where it will count:  in the church.  If you MUST have a 1DX, that's okay too but just understand your quality of the 5D3/85L combo will not be replaced by a 1DX body only.   The 1DX will take great photos no doubt, but I just feel for weddings that's more dependent on glass and especially since there's little IQ difference between the 5D3 and 1DX.

I know what you're going through.  I just sold one of my 5D3's and my 1Ds3 because I had to go to a more specialized kit.  That hurt.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1D X EC and ISO button function swapped
« on: August 08, 2012, 11:49:28 AM »
I haven't done this yet, but on the 1D4 you can set Av mode and minimum shutter speed, to let's say 1/500s.  You then turn ISO safety shift to ON, set your aperture, and put in Auto ISO.  You can also set EC, so that whatever value is chosen by the camera for ISO, corresponds to your EC value.  This is really usefull for indoor sports and I haven't tried it on the 1DX but I imagine it can do this as well.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 08, 2012, 10:28:27 AM »
I went through the pain of making the 1DS3 vs 5D3 decision too, which was made harder by the fact that a used 1DS was A LOT cheaper than the 5D3.  But I went for the 5D3, and am happy overall with it.  I *do* long for AF point-linked metering though.  It's a pain having to meter at the centre of the frame, then AE lock (*) and then compose and shoot using the outside AF points.  It almost makes it worth going back to the good old centre AF point>focus>recompose method, which I've used on SLRs for the past 16 years... until now...

Don't worry about the non-AF linked spot metering.  Just set your shutter speed and aperture to what you want, then use auto ISO.  The metering you speak of is only for spot metering.  The others won't be much different if any from your active AF vs. center.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 08, 2012, 12:15:28 AM »
After shooting around the house for awhile, I'd like to say that the AWB on the 1DX is actually really, really good.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 07, 2012, 11:00:49 PM »
These shots with indoor and mixed lighting where I can't use a flash are difficult.  I think WB does matter a great deal, especially if it adds a cast to a shadow that you can't get rid of.  I don't think you can ignore that.  Fortunately I was able to test both the 1DX and 5D3 in these harsh conditions and they performed similarly.

You know, you can always develop the RAW twice, once for each white balance, and then composite the one into the other using a mask and a big soft brush....

b&

You know, you are absolutely right.  I forgot PS can do that.

I am also going to do some test shots downstairs this evening with tungsten and fluorescent lighting, and "meter" my WB reading off a styrofoam cup.  Secondly, I'll apply a flash on a second series of photos.  Funny how when you are so used to shooting in one environment you really don't appreciate the difficulties of other environments.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 60D long exposure lock-up
« on: August 07, 2012, 10:58:08 PM »
I did a 3-shot HDR in-camera sequence once, which does the 3 shots automatically.  I did -3ev, 0ev, +3ev.  Each shot required an 8 second exposure for what I was doing.  On shot 3 it just locked up and got lost and I had no idea what was going on.  Now, this is really funny, the camera knew when the exposure was overwith, so my file was fine despite the shutter hanging open.  All I did was after about 30s just fired the shutter button and it unlocked and worked normally.  This was on a 5D Mark III.

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1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: August 07, 2012, 10:35:12 PM »
Thank you.  Diffraction was a concern, but I had to snap off the shot quickly and I was hand-holding, so I just narrowed until it was about -2/3 expsoure.  I'd love to get that situation again and do it with a tripod. 

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