I can't believe people are actually posting to this thread. The OP is clearly trolling. It is not designed to provide a rich environment for intellectual stimulation.
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The auto iso goes only up to 400 ISO. Both 5D3 and 7D goes higher. Am I over looking something ?
Very useful when in manual mode.
It goes up to ISO 3200. See page 58 in your manual. However, there is no auto ISO when in manual mode, that was added in later to the 5D MK III
Now, is it the camera that is stupid?
The 5d3 has better metering and auto white balances - so that should account for "exposure, and color rendition". Both can be corrected when shooting raw.
Metering and White balance shouldn't matter in a studio Environment.
My old 5d Mark II's still surprise me with how absolutely beautiful they shoot in a controlled environment.
Eh - the 'last-minute prima-donna' argument is a good one, but I don't think it's unreasonable to move CPS orders to the front of the queue within given intervals-- perhaps 2 weeks or 30 days. If ordering 'officially' opened on March 1, my June order shouldn't beat yours out the door... but if your livelihood depends on your gear and you need one for a fixed-date event, your order should take precedence over my butterfly-chasing.
The OP has a point. Hardly anyone seems to check their "facts." I am guilty of that, too, sometimes repeating what I think I "know" and never finding links to back it up / explain to others so they can understand and not just take my word for it. For instance, people still say things like bits are stops of dynamic range. If that was true, then both the D800 and 5D3 would have exactly 14 stops of DR. Perhaps we should all start including high quality links with our opinions, the way that the world wide web was designed to work, which is now become just the internet.
As far as quality of images goes, I for one am never going to turn my best images over to canonrumors.com even if the TOS says they are still mine. I think that it still constitutes publishing them, and would interfere with the legalese of how I am paid. I don't want to violate any fine print because it could come back to bite me.
And at my age and position in life I feel like it's very immature for me to post at all on canonrumors. If I just posted one post, like Aldo, it would probably represent somebody who has more self-control and maturity. So I don't count Aldo's "newness" of having 1 post against him. It could just show that he is 107 times wiser than I am. But I just enjoy acting like a teenager after almost forgetting how.
Now old people tend to lose track of their topic, and I'm sorry if I do that now. But in fact, I can't help it if one thought leads to another. The fact is that Canonrumors is the first forum that I've participated in for almost ten years, because other forums where I tried to contribute--math, photography, computer programming--always seemed to degenerate into people trying to impress one another; and the sites *almost* always seemed to degenerate into profit-making machines rather than doing any work to earn the visits of their audience.
Warning: heresy against Canon Rumors In this paragraph I am going to commit the heresy of criticizing the powers that be. Mods, feel free to delete this paragraph... here goes. For an example of what I was saying above about good websites become profit making machines rather than serving their visitors, has anyone noticed that admin seems to be AWOL about further information the 1D X even though he now has it? And yet he has taken the time to post links to a very lukewarm deal on the 7D and promoting it like it was the greatest deal ever. (I know it is just lukewarm because just this month I added a fifth 7D to my inventory for $1149 including the 28-135mm lens with a U.S. warranty, and it was shipped instantly and in my hands the next day from an authorized dealer. Other well-known price points on 7Ds have included several instances of the body only for $1,100. So for the admin to advertise the "body package deal" for $1,349 was simple commercialism just like Ken Rockwell does.) I for one was extremely disappointed with the 7D body only "package" advertisement, which at that price was not doing a service to any visitors to Canon Rumors, and have also been disappointed by many similar posts to "deals" rather than the time to provide good info to us about products. I know that the admin is providing this entire site to us out of his good will, so I do appreciate that--however, the good will equation is starting to become a profit equation now that the website has become so popular. I hope that the admin can resist the temptation of the "love of money" because that will be the demise of this website and the end of its popularity.
Love this site and the various topics that seem to get people hot under the collar. But am amazed at the rather low level of knowledge out there on the subject of photography and the poor quality of work being showcased in these forums. Is it just me or do others agree?
I just saw that Amazon has the 5D III selling for $3399 which is about $100 less than most reputable dealers. Anyone buy expensive gear from Amazon and want to share your experience - good or bad?
Hmmmm.. don't know if I agree.
That said I'm glad rich idiots beta test new cameras by buying them 4 months before me.
No, I won't bother with a retort. Those with can't afford should be left with some way to rationalize it, so they can feel better about themselves.
See, that's pretty offensive too, right. FWIW, I make a decent living but I, like many who can afford a 1D X, aren't 'rich' by any means. Despite having a PhD, I'll stop short of stating that they don't give PhDs or MDs to idiots, though...I know quite a few who fit that description.
If you got the money to burn on these two pieces of glass then more power to you. I am sure you will love them regardless of the crop vs ff debate. That being said I'd echo a few other comments regarding the need for the 50L when you already have the 1.8. Yes the 1.8 is plastic and cheap, but if you drop it and crack it, no worries, $100 gets you a new one. And the 50L does not IMHO produce 15 times better images than the 1.8 as price should dictate. The 24L is a different animal, there really isn't competition in the canon prime line up in this general focal range, the 28 1.8 is probably the closest option, but at $500 it's 3 times less expensive and I actually think the 24L is probably worth the price difference here and is close to 3 times better. So maybe keep the 1.8, get the 24L and look to a prime in the telephoto range, the 85 1.8 is excellent for the price or the 135L which may be the best canon prime made today. In fact you could get the 24L, 135L, 85 1.8, and throw in a 50 1.4 (if you feel the need to upgrade from the plastic) for about what you'd spend on the 24L and 50L combined.
I would suggest the 50 f/1.8 is no more than a fallback/budget lens as the bokeh is terrible. I would be very tempted to skip the 50's and go for the shorty forty on the crop.
PS There are far better primes than the 135, albeit the 135 is very good and a very good price point. A 24-70II might be better than multiple primes
Here is what I came up with tonight. Also, there is another thread Revup started that may be a better place to post...
Mile High 'Merica by @!ex, on Flickr
Im hoping to hear good news from BH tomorrow.