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EOS Bodies / Re: 600D/T3i Specs [CR2]
« on: February 03, 2011, 08:25:35 PM »
yaaay another Rebel  *yawns*.....

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EOS Bodies / Re: “1Dsq” & 3D [CR1]
« on: January 26, 2011, 05:09:44 PM »
If only this rumor were finally true, add 8fps & I'd stand in line to get this body.
I'm skeptical of the 18MP, I just don't see Canon giving up the high MP bragging rights just yet.  I would expect 21-24 MP especially if the 5DIII is going into the 30+ MP range.

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EOS Bodies / Re: From the Land of Crazy! [CR0]
« on: January 24, 2011, 04:29:17 PM »
"I still contend that technology is such that a FF body can shoot 8-10 fps and that recently the performance limitation has been imposed by Canon to protect their flagship, not the availability of technology.  EOS film cameras could shoot 10fps and those bodies had to advance a film roll so I know it's possible with digital."

FF is not the issue but MP count is, a recent Canon technical piece stated that there is a problem with the sensor at 18MP and 10 fps,  each time an exposure is made the sensor is 'reset' wiped if you like, the technical problem is in resetting the larger pixel counts.  Failure to do this effectively builds a series of ghosts of previous images, which gets worse as the number of images in a burst increases.

Your ideal camera is very very close to the 1D MkIV.  16.1MP isn't very different to 18MP it does 10fps dual card slots and clean Iso 6400 the only compromise is the Aps-H even the price is about right if you're quoting in £ notes!


As far as I remember, it was an issue of a FF, not MP. That was the reason to put APS-H in 1D4, they could have made it FF, if the problem was pixel count. Nikon's fast FF shooters can't shoot more than 9fps in FF mode, only in APS-C, because of this as far as I understand. But as it goes so far in technical details it's more based on what one read on forums and stuff, so we can't be sure.

This is correct, at the time Canon was designing the 1DIV they could not push 10fps thru a FF sensor because of the ghosting issues that Flake mentioned earlier.  This is an engineering problem, and Canon has probably been working on it since they completed the 1DIV.  I have no inside info, but considering the design of the 1DIV was probably completed some time back in late 2008 or early 2009 for it's late 2009 release, Canon has had over 2 years to resolve this issue.  Add to that the dramatic increases in the processing power of embedded chips over the same time period and i'm sure Canon has solved this issue by now.

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EOS Bodies / Re: From the Land of Crazy! [CR0]
« on: January 24, 2011, 03:22:34 PM »
Nikon cannot provide a serious competitor to the 5D MkII at the present time, with the D700 you have only 12MP and most landscape photographers will tell you this is simply not enough.
The D700 needs a battery grip to attain 8fps but this is in 12bit mode so not comparable to the 7D, but there are other strengths for FF & crop frame, control over depth of field, or the apparant extra reach crop frame gives.

Macro shooters for instance need lots of MP and good DoF a crop sensor is ideal just an example of why you can't have one camera which does it all.  Perhaps the best of all worlds of the 1D MkIV with it;s 1.3x APS - H sensor?

All good points, and APS-H is a nice compromise, I love some of the shots i've seen from the 1DIV.  However there are many successful landscape shooters using nikon D700 & D3 bodies.  The difference in MP does not result in a dramatic difference in IQ between the 5DII & D700, I know people who shoot with both and IQ is a wash with a slight lead in high ISO performance going to the D700 and a slight lead in detail on very, very large prints going to the 5DII.  Canon obviously wins in video.  FF is obviously better for dof & crop gives you more reach with shorter lenses, essentially the difference between buying a 300mm vs 400mm lens, so they both have their uses.

I still contend that technology is such that a FF body can shoot 8-10 fps and that recently the performance limitation has been imposed by Canon to protect their flagship, not the availability of technology.  EOS film cameras could shoot 10fps and those bodies had to advance a film roll so I know it's possible with digital.

My ideal body would be FF, 18-21MP, 1-series weather sealing, 8-10 fps, very clean ISO 6400 & dual card slots, the 7D AF would be more than acceptable on this body for me.  I would imagine Canon could produces this body in the 3K-4K price range if they really wanted to do it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: From the Land of Crazy! [CR0]
« on: January 24, 2011, 12:43:18 PM »
a quick google search tells me that the only reason is that nikon wants to sell grips harder than canon does, and cripples their cameras on purpose, then uncrippling them for the price of a grip

Different cameras for different jobs. Why should I pay a higher price for a camera with a built-in grip and higher frames per second, if I don't need high frames per second?

High frames per second may be important to sports photographers/PJs or fanboys, but I've never heard a portrait photographer complain about not enough FPS. A commercial shooter, shooting catalog pix, doesn't spray-and-pray.

I like Nikon's idea of only paying for what you need. Too bad that Canon doesn't have the same philosophy.

Actually, Canon has more of a specialized body philosophy than Nikon.  The 5DII is specialized for portrait/landscape photography because it contains an antiquated af system.  The 7D on the other hand gives you a very slight drop in IQ with it's cropped sensor in exchange for 8fps and the 2nd best af in the Canon lineup.  Canon has long tried to separate their bodies by function.  Nikon on the other had puts a top notch af system into all of it's semi/pro bodies whether you need it or not.  Also they are caple of 8fps if you choose to buy a battery grip.  With a D700 you can go from senior portraits to sports with the same body only adding a grip.

Many of us want a do it all body because we're enthusiasts, and have no desire to carry around 2 different bodies for 2 different purposes.  I shoot everything from portraits/landscapes to high school football & volleyball and I want Canon to give me the best of both worlds.  If they don't do it this time around, then I know who does.

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EOS Bodies / Re: From the Land of Crazy! [CR0]
« on: January 23, 2011, 01:34:56 PM »
I like this rumor very much except for:  small body, single card slot & no mention of weather sealing.  Am I the only one that prefers a larger body?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1Ds Mark IV.. The Saga Continues... [CR2]
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:24:08 AM »
I guess the 1Ds4 rumor is really running wild.

Don't know what those guys at Canon are thinking about, but I think there's several points we should watch regarding the 1Ds4 and 5D3 situation.

2. 5D3 vs. D800: Yeah, we all know the D800 should be out sometimes this year. While Nikonites might disagree, the 5D2 definitely took a significant bite in the Megapixel race and video capabilities. Since 5D2 has the lead, I would assume Canon would tend toward waiting and to let D800 make the first move (unless they're so confident with their product that they believe releasing it early on would leave their competitors way behind). Of course, there's also the D4 vs. 1Ds4 flagship model competition... though I think that has less of a impact on the mass consumer market.

Just my 2 cents...

I'm a Canonite and I disagree, while true the 5DII took a significant lead in MP & Video neither of these gives the crown to Canon.  The build quality, af & fps of the 5DII are a couple of generations behind the D700.  Even with the large MP advantage, the IQ of the 5DII & D700 are very, very close.  In my opinion, Nikon has a clear upgrade path with the D800.  All Nikon needs to do is up the MP, add video and maybe move to dual card slots and they have a competitive body, the af is already top notch and their body is capable of shooting 8fps gripped.  I would also give a slight edge in high ISO to Nikon as well.  Canon has alot of work to do which is probably why the 5DIII is taking so long to drop, Nikon has given the option of a fast, ff, weather-sealed body at the same price point as the 5D series.  Those of us looking to move to ff for our next upgrade have a tough decision to make...

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Canon High End [CR2]
« on: December 16, 2010, 01:29:57 PM »
I don't think Canon would reduce the MP on a 1D4 replacement just to make it FF, they also wouldn't replace it after a little more than 1 year unless there were serious problems with the body.  Since the body appears to still be selling well, I don't think this is the case.  If this is real, I think it would be a new addition to the lineup, not an update.  Also a FF 1D5 would still be a $5K camera, Nikon has already proven that a fast FF camera doesn't have to cost that much.....

On another note, I find it hard to believe they still can't push 20+ MP FF images @ 10 fps through their digic processors, I'd be really disappointed if they still can't do this in 2011, I expect dual core digic5 procs next year or quad digic4s.  Canon must surely realize that they are losing the tech race even though they're more than likely still meeting their sales goals.  The dynamic range improvements from Pentax on their crop bodies + the across the board high ISO spanking they're taking from Nikon has got to sting a little.

I expect something big from Canon in 2011....

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Lenses / Re: Lenses [CR2]
« on: November 28, 2010, 02:14:45 PM »
What could be more entry level than the 5D lineup?

Agreed, they could give the 5D II a few tweaks, drop the price and sell it as the entry level FF body making room for a high performance FF body in 2011.  Canon has got to finally realize that they can't keep all the goodies for the 1 series cameras it's APS-H sensor will continue to occupy the PJ sports camera niche.

There's an empty slot for a FF 7D type body in the 3K price range that's long overdue to be filled, I've stopped buying lenses completely because if Canon doesn't get it right in 2011, my whole Canon kit is up for sale.....

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Lenses / Re: 100-400 Replacement
« on: November 20, 2010, 03:24:08 PM »
I would have liked a 100-300 f/4 IS... seemed like the way to go, it still takes teleconverters... I had a Sigma version and liked it a lot, lacked IS, if not I would have kept it.

The 70-300 just seems pointless in the lineup, i think it needed to go to the 400mm range or have wider aperture... but most people will just buy a 70-200 2.8 for less money or a 70-300 of the IS USM ones non L.

I agree that a 100-300 f2.8 or f4 would have been much better, I'm now waiting to look at the new Sigma 120-300 2.8 IS for my long range fix.

I don't think anyone was asking for the new 70-300L, especially one this slow, it can't take a TC so I really don't see the point.  A 100-400 or 100-500 f4 would be interesting, but I doubt Canon would build it.....

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EOS Bodies / Re: New \
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:17:15 AM »
"The 3D has come at last :-D"

I literally was on the phone with a vendor ready to order a 5Dll when I decided to check CR for the latest rumor.  When I saw this March announcement of a "High End" camera I slammed down my phone and gave a cheer !   I want the 5Dlll ! 

But I'm not so sure about a 3D.   Assuming that it cost at least $1,000 more, what additional features might I get over those "hoped for" in the 5Dlll that would justify the extra cost ?   And would those extra features be that valuable for me ?

Also, if the announcement were for a 3D and I couldn't justfy buying it,  how much longer would I have to wait for the 5Dlll ?  6 months or more?   Ouch !


3D $3K price point could have:

  • 18-24MP Full Frame
  • better weather sealing
  • faster FPS (8+)
  • advanced sports oriented AF (maybe 31 well spaced points to be better than the 7D and not quite as good as the 1DIV)
  • dual CF card slots
  • dual digic V
  • Video (don't really care but I know it would be included)
5DIII $2K price point could have:

  • 24-30MP Full Frame
  • single digic V
  • single CF card slot
  • 7D AF (possibly stripped down since the camera doesn't need that kind of performance)
  • Video
A studio or landscape photog would probably still pick the 5DIII as it would be cheaper and have better resolution and video without the need for the high performance AF.  The 3D would open up a whole new market to Canon, I can't believe they'll continue to let those sales go to Nikon without a fight.

One thing for sure, Canon will need to exceed Nikon specs, not match them.  They are a much larger company with far greater resources and they need to start acting like it.  I'm a Canon fan, but Nikon is eating their lunch on everything but resolution right now and the video gap is almost closed...... 


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Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 28, 2010, 10:39:27 AM »
L lenses are strictly EF mount...

Really?  Tell that to this L lens with its red ring:



There are no EF-S L lenses  ;)

No, there aren't - but it's incorrect to state that all L lenses are EF mount.  Not sure why my image is not showing up, but I was referring to the 7.2-50.8mm f/2.4-3.5L USM zoom lens on the PowerShot Pro 1.

If Canon can put an L lens on a point-and-shoot camera, there's no reason they can't make an EF-S L lens.  They just haven't done it yet...

Point taken, I've not seen that lens before so I'm definitely wrong on that point.

I guess what I'm trying to say is why make an EF-S L when every recent EOS body can mount EF lenses.  Could Canon do it if they wanted to?  Of course, but I see no financial reason for them to do so and I believe they would limit the market for such a lens by making it EF-S.  The greatest consumer of L lenses by far are the FF & APS-H users. 

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Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 28, 2010, 09:47:36 AM »
L lenses are strictly EF mount...

Really?  Tell that to this L lens with its red ring:



There are no EF-S L lenses  ;)

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Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 27, 2010, 10:32:20 PM »
We have an awesome crop camera in the 7D, is it too much to ask for awesome glass to go with it?  If Canon were to finally come out with an EF-S "L" lens, what do you wish it would be?  Try to make it plausible, and technically possible.  Posting something silly like 4-800mm f/0.95 DO IS USM ABCDEFG is even more useless than any post of this type already inherently is.

The lens that would make me weak in the knees, tingly all over, and trip over my tongue while I run to the store...

EF-S 14-70mm f/2.8L H-IS USM
~$1699 List
~$1399 Street

Slightly more useful focal range than the current 17-55/2.8, 3-4 stop hybrid IS, weather sealing (no more sucking up dust while zooming).  I honestly don't think I'm asking for too much.  Am I?

I think you might be asking for a leeeeetle too much.  ;D

1st, it would make the 24-70 which is NOT a light lens by anyone's standards feel like a paperweight, that's a ton of glass you're asking for.

2nd, L lenses are strictly EF mount,  they can be used on any body from a Rebel to a 1Ds.  Making it EF-S means it won't mount up to the 5D or either of the 1D flagships, why build such a monster lens if the pros who would be more likely to buy it can't use it?

And finally, you will not get a constant 2.8, 5x, weather sealed, 4-stop IS USM L zoom for less than $2k.  Hell, I don't think Canon would sell that lens for any less than $4K.

It would be a killer lens but it just ain't gonna happen.........

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1Ds Mark IV Saga
« on: September 16, 2010, 08:38:09 PM »
I just wanna know when $3K started equaling stripped down.  Nikon has already proven that $3K = a lot of camera, Canon has its users thinking that you can't get high performance & FF for a reasonable price and I call BS, tech gets cheaper, not more expensive.  If Canon's users start demanding more out of their bodies, then Canon will comply, plain and simple.  Don't be fooled into thinking you can't get a fast, FF body with excellent AF for 3K or less.  It's well within Canon capabilities to produce such a body. 

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