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I won't swear for sure, but I don't believe that will work.

At least, I haven't had any luck combining radio and optical triggers. The flash will fire, but it is out of sync. Maybe others have had better luck or know something I don't.

Honestly, the YN622-Cs are so cheap, you might as well buy some for every strobe you own. Besides, once you start down that path of off-camera flash, you are soon going to find yourself with more strobes and triggers than you ever imagined. You think lenses are bad, at least with lenses, you only need one of each. :)

BTW, there are a handful of U.S.-based sellers of the YN622-Cs on eBay. Same price as the overseas dealers. I bought from one of them and had the triggers within a week.

1007
Keep in mind too that there is more than a little risk for any camera manufacturer who would completely shut out third-party lens makers.

They'd have to consider the ill-will they'd be generating among their best customers, since those who buy third-party lenses are also the ones with the discretionary income to buy Canon lenses and Canon cameras. Is it really worth it to antagonize those customers?

Canon doesn't operate a monopoly. If they make it impossible to use third-party lenses, that will only drive customers to Nikon. Right now, the two companies compete relentlessly over insignificant differences in their products. Ceding the third-party compatibility issue to the other side would be handing them a massive competitive advantage.

Shutting out Sigma, Tokina or Tamron would also mean shutting out Zeiss. Granted, it's a very small market, but I don't think either Canon nor Nikon would want to hand over these high-end luxury buyers to the other side.

Yes, I can see Canon and Nikon engineering new features into their lenses and trying to keep those features from being accessible by third party lenses, but that's a far different case than completely shutting out a competitor's lenses.

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I'm pretty sure that's why Sigma introduced the docking station for firmware upgrades.

Canon and Nikon may change their firmware in the future to try to shut third party lenses out of some features. By offering a docking station, major firmware upgrades can be added to the lenses at home. Sigma can release new firmware and, hopefully, stay one step ahead.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 70d out in time?
« on: May 02, 2013, 12:02:48 PM »
...I have learned that the limiting factor is me, not the camera sensor...

So true. So easy to get caught up in the "Bigger is Better," "Newer is Better," "More Expensive is Better" mindset. Especially when you take part in a forum where there is always someone who has a bigger, newer, more expensive toy.

We throw numbers around here like they mean nothing and tend to forget that for most people, spending $1,000 on a camera is one huge investment, not to mention $2,000 to $3,500.


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...although you are using external battery packs there is a choice on how these work. The flash MUST have good batteries in it for actual flash function, the pack only helps the capacitor charge, not the actual running of the flash, one bad battery in a flash can stop it working even if all the other 11 are good...

Wow!!! Light bulb going off over my head. That explains issues I have had.

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Lighting / Re: 600ex-rt vs PocketWizard Flex TT5 Setup
« on: April 30, 2013, 03:04:20 PM »
If you want the 600's working in ETTL and the 580's manual, then only if you can find a Canon compatible optical trigger that would also ignore the ETTL pre-flashes, the 600's still fire pre-flashes for metering even in radio wireless. If you want everything manual then the 580EX II doesn't have a built in optical trigger like most Nikon flashes, but you can use one of these.

http://www.flashzebra.com/products/0118/index.shtml

Using them would give you dumb triggering over the 580's whilst still giving manual remote control over the 600's.

Hope that was more along the lines of your thought process.

Thanks, that does help. It's that pre-flash that always presents a problem. I'll play around with things when I get the 600s. I'm going to hang on the 580s until I can get another one or two 600s, so I won't be any worse off than I am now and knowing Canon's refurbished store, as soon as they end their current sale, the 600s will probably magically come back into stock.

Again, sorry for hijacking the OP's thread. You can now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Lighting / Re: 600ex-rt vs PocketWizard Flex TT5 Setup
« on: April 30, 2013, 02:16:21 PM »
Hi unfocused,

Like PhotographyAdventure said you have several options, but the only way you can get full Canon ETTL functionality on the 600's and 580's is via the optical wireless. However it might be worth trying the ST-E3-RT on pass through on the 622C controlling the 600's,  and have the remote 580's on the other 622C's that might work, but I doubt it! I don't see how you could control the 580's as the camera flash menu would "see" the ST-E3-RT.

Other than that thought manual triggering of some flashes via the PC socket and the 622, or more 622's (if they work fully with the 600's) would seem the way forwards until you get your next 600's.

Sorry guys, I guess I wasn't clear. I was just wondering if I could set the 580 EXII to manual and use the flash from the 600s to trigger it as an old-fashioned optical slave. I wasn't thinking I would have access to ETTL on the 580s.

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Lighting / Re: 600ex-rt vs PocketWizard Flex TT5 Setup
« on: April 30, 2013, 12:11:08 PM »
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I've got a question that I'm hoping Private or someone else with experience can answer for me.

After bitching for months about Canon's failure to release a receiver that can be used with the 580 EXII, I broke down this weekend, bit the bullet and ordered two 600 RT's from Canon's refurbished shop. I would have ordered four, but they went out of stock before I could order another two. Anyway, I now have two 600s and an ST-E3 on the way.

I really need at least one more, but want to wait to see if they come back in stock at Canon Refurb. For the time being, I still have four 580 EXIIs and Yongnuo's excellent ETTL triggers (I think they are 622C).

My question: for a temporary setup, can I use the 600 RTs in radio mode and fire a 580 EXII as a slave. Would the light from the 600 RTs trigger the 580 EXII or will they be off-sync? Alternatively, can I temporarily use the Yongnuo radio trigger to trigger the 600 RTs or am I risking something catastrophic?

As you all know, I'm no technical geek. I am and always will be a "seat of the pants" shooter. Advice please.

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Lenses / Re: A Walk Around Lens for a Trip
« on: April 30, 2013, 10:23:12 AM »
7D and the 15-85 is my standard walk-around kit. It will cover virtually everything you are likely to encounter on a tour. I have the Tokina 11-16, but seldom pack it when traveling. The 24mm equivalent of the 15-85 is more than adequate for most situations.

If I think I might be going someplace where there will be critters to take pictures of, I'll pack the 70-300 L, but I'm guessing that on a tour group to Israel that won't be the case. If you want a cheap, light longer lens solution, look at the 55-250 EF-S. It is very sharp (better than any of the Non L 70-300 lenses) and weighs almost nothing.

If you really want to take an all-in-one, I'd suggest renting the Tamron 18-270 and see if you find it sharp enough for your purposes. You can rent it for a week from Lens Rentals for under $50. To my way of thinking, the loss of 3 mm at the wide end is pretty significant, but you may not feel that way.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon refurb sale...what happened?
« on: April 29, 2013, 04:45:51 PM »
I think there was a problem with the website this morning. When I got up, I checked it to see if the 600 R-T was back in stock. They showed that almost everything was back in stock, but no sale prices.

Then, a half-hour later, the sale prices were back but the strobes (and most other items) were listed as sold out.

I guess I got lucky, because yesterday morning I ordered two 600 R-Ts. I got a confirmation e-mail and so far, no cancellation. I wanted to order four, but also wanted to break the order up in order to maximize the savings. I got two ordered and then when I went to order the next two, they were sold out. I'll just have to wait until the next time.

I'm always a little suspicious of how Canon USA handles the refurbished sales. For weeks before a sale, they will have a product in stock and then as soon as the sale starts, things are immediately out of stock. Then the sale ends and suddenly products are back in stock again.

On the other hand, the prices are so good and the sales so frequent that I really can't complain too much even if they are manipulating their stock levels, which I strongly suspect they are.

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Lenses / Re: EF 100-400 Replacement in 2013? [CR2]
« on: April 29, 2013, 12:30:49 PM »
So, let me be sure I understand this (of course it is all speculation).  My recent $1100 refurb 100-400 will be obsolete once this is released and I'll run out and spend 3 times that much for the replacement?   ???

Somehow, I don't think so.....

you have to.. or you will be banned from this forum.

btw: your signature is to short... fix that.. buy more gear!!

So true. Same here. After waiting for a couple of years, I bought a refurbished 100-400 about a year and a half ago. It's a great lens and I'm in no hurry to replace it. I'll think about a new model – when the price drops and it shows up on the refurbished site, along with a 15% off sale. Meanwhile, I can enjoy this one for another 3-4 years.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Back to the Future Parts 1/2/3 Canon Strategy
« on: April 28, 2013, 11:31:58 PM »
I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is supposed to be.

The trends in the point and shoot market are obvious to everyone. All manufacturers are trying to figure out how to adapt to the smart phone competition.

It's pretty clear from Canon's recent introductions – Power Shot N, SX50, EOS M, SL1, G1-X – that Canon is experimenting with a number of niche market formats targeted to specific audiences. What's also clear is that they do not believe the future is going to found in less options, but rather in more.

Canon doesn't have a crystal ball that works any better than any other manufacturer's. They seem to be positioning themselves to be able to take advantage of the market no matter what direction it goes. Frankly, I think their flexibility will probably serve them well in the long run.

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HDR - High Dynamic Range / Re: My kind of HDR
« on: April 28, 2013, 04:36:00 PM »
..this is how I saw the scene in my head before I shot it...

Yeah, I used to see things like that in my head too. But then, I stopped dropping acid.

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Is it the flash or is it the ST-E3 that isn't recycling?

Are all the batteries in the packs and in the strobes fresh?

If using rechargeables, any chance some of the batteries have died?

One suggestion, try messaging privatebydesign. He's very experienced with the 600 EX and might know more. My experience so far is just with the 580 EX II and ST-E2. I have had problems with the ST-E2 overheating and then not firing the strobes, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue with a radio control unit.

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Lighting / Re: Speedlite Remote Trigger Question
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:24:12 PM »
Another vote for the YN622C. They are easy to use and seem to be very reliable.

A little more unsolicited advice: read some reviews and comments on the Yongnuo strobes before buying. I've seen a number of complaints about some models where, the customer really likes them for a few months and then the flash head blows out. Yongnuo seems to be making a real effort to improve the quality of their stuff, but I'm still hesitant about buying their strobes.

Keep in mind that one of the major practical differences between the 580II and the 430II is the ability to use an auxiliary battery pack. If you get into flash photography much you will soon find that the recycle times of units without a battery pack can become a problem. Nothing more frustrating when shooting a portrait then missing shots because your strobe isn't recycling. Especially if you are trying to shoot kids, pets or almost any subject whose expressions change quickly.

Finally, there is a guide to the YN622C available on the internet that an individual wrote. I don't  have the URL in front of me, but if you do a search you should find it. It's pretty helpful and a lot easier to comprehend than the Chinglish that Yongnuo's documentation tends to be written in.

Finally, have fun, but beware. If you think lenses can eat a hole in your wallet, just wait until you start buying strobes. Nobody needs more than one 70-200 2.8 zoom, but when it comes to strobes, you'll soon find yourself with four or five before you know it.

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