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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D at 46.1mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 25, 2012, 11:09:13 AM »
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I believe Canon had this sensor and the technology to mass produce it for some time (2-3 years) ...

Yes, they've been using it in the 7D for three years now.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:00:48 PM »
Oh I think it would be quite excellent for wildlife because when you crop the picture, you'll have the same ability to crop as with the 7D. It would be the full frame version of the 7D, except perhaps in fps. Birders would love it.

I also see it as being used by quite a number of wedding photographers (that aren't amateurs pretending.)

This sounds good in theory, but it doesn't work in real life. The more you have to crop, the harder it is to nail the focus. So, while it sounds good to say you could simply take a full-frame camera of equal pixel density to a 7D and crop the image after the shoot, the most likely result will be images with missed focus points. If you need a 1.6 magnification, it is best to use a camera that provides a 1.6 magnification.

As for wedding photographers, I can't understand why they would pick this over the 5DIII, which was designed with their needs specifically in mind.

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Lenses / Re: 70-300mm For my 5DM2
« on: September 24, 2012, 05:54:00 PM »
I just realized as I was posting this that Steve Smith said essentially the same thing. Sorry for the redundancy, but that means two recommendations on the "L" from the refurbished store.

If you are in the U.S.: ACT RIGHT NOW. The Canon Refurbished Store is having their 20% off sale and the 70-300 L is just over $1,000. http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_327247_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149

You might even get free shipping with Coupon Code; SHIP712  (see CanonPriceWatch.com). This is a fantastic lens and if you can swing it, buy it.

Now, if you absolutely cannot afford the "L" lens, I would honestly recommend going a cheap route and picking up the new Tamron 70-300 stabilized lens. It is less expensive than the Canon IS lens, but from all accounts it is sharper. I had that lens before I gave in to the desire for the "L."  Don't get me wrong, the "L" lens is much better (sharper, weathersealed, built like a tank, etc.) but I really had few complaints about the Tamron. It was as sharp or sharper than the 55-250 mm lens, which is actually quite sharp (although not USM and lacks build quality). I don't have any experience with the 70-300 non "L" IS lens, but from reviews, etc. it doesn't seem to be a stellar performer and is more expensive than the Tamron.

Only problem I ever had with the Tamron was an occasional hangup when it would hunt for a focus point. Although I honestly don't know if that was a problem with the lens or with the 7D center focus point not being able to focus on a subject due to contrast issues.

Anyway, that's my two-cents.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« on: September 23, 2012, 12:31:46 PM »
I love it when a plan comes together.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8175.msg149586#msg149586

Okay, I admit I was wrong about some of the features of the 6D. No touch screen, no flip screen and it does have micro-focus adjustment. You can take some deductions from my score for those, but if the 46 mp camera emerges, I want extra points for calling that one. :)

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While most lenses are out of stock, the superb 70-300 L is in stock as of 10 this morning (central time). Just over $1,000. Fantastic deal. Also the 430 EXII is under $200.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« on: September 22, 2012, 09:28:23 PM »
Well this is pretty much what I've been predicting all along.

I'm still calling it a 5D HD and believe it will be essentially the same body with a different sensor plopped in. I am surprised at the frame rate, I thought it would be lower. I wonder if they will give over some processing power to the frame rate by putting a more modest autofocus in this one. Not sure the people using this camera will need the 5DIII or 1DX autofocus. I've said it will be the same price as the 5DIII. Possibly it will come in slightly higher, but I don't see this as a 1-series body.

Yes, as 46mp, this looks like Canon will used the same sensor in this as they use in the next generation of 7D and probably 60D. With three years of experience with the 18mp (46 mp equivalent) it may mean Canon has decided to just improve upon what they already produce instead of trying for ever-more pixels. That's consistent with everything they've been doing the past year (1DX, 5DIII, 6D, T4i).

This bodes well for 7D users. Canon must deliver acceptable noise for the full frame body (Not sure I'm buying the 12,800 as clean, but if it is good at 6,400 or even 3,200 that would be a significant improvement) and since they'll likely use the same sensor in the 7DII at least, the APS-C version should perform identically.

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Lenses / Re: First lenses for new crop sensor camera?
« on: September 21, 2012, 06:42:58 PM »
It's a personal preference and there are tons of threads arguing in favor of one or the other.

I am with Marsu, I prefer the range of the 15-85 over the speed of the 17-55. Both are very sharp, which is certainly the most important criteria of any lens. I can attest from personal experience that the build quality of the 15-85 is pretty robust.

Same with the 70-200 and the 70-300. You have to decide between the longer range and one stop difference in speed. I chose the longer range.

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It is possible that this has veered so far off-topic that there is no getting it back on, but...

It occurred to me it's ironic and hypocritical for photographers to even be having this argument.

Photographer A and Photographer B both shoot a wedding. Photographer A charges $800 and Photographer B charges $8,000.

Photographer A's images are out of focus, improperly exposed, mundane and uninspiring. Photographer B's pictures are not only technically perfect, but they are absolutely luminous, capture the moments perfectly and positively soar.

But wait, Photographer B admits that he USED THE EXACT SAME CAMERA as Photographer A. All of the difference is in the software holding the camera.

Clearly Photographer B is immoral and unethical.

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OMG! I just learned that for years the Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable were the same car with just different options and nameplate. That's so immoral!

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Youre essentially paying for the software that costs the company money and time to develop. Programmers arent free guys.

Being a programmer myself, I agree :)

Shawn L.

Not being a programmer, I also agree. Somebody needs to figure out all those 0s and 1s and I'm glad it ain't me.

I think I'll start a new thread: "OMG, Apple admits the iTouch and iPhone are essentially the same device"

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII feature requests...
« on: September 20, 2012, 10:47:32 AM »
Just looking at this and the other threads on 7DII features (there are several almost identical ones) I have an observation: 7DII owners are pretty consistent in what they want. They want what they already have, just a little bit better.

That seems in sharp contrast to many of the other threads on this site, which seem to be dominated by people unhappy with their choices. I'm also surprised at how many 7D owners seem willing to pay a lot more for the next model. People throw around figures of $2,000 to $2,500 quite freely.

All this says to me is that regardless of what people may think of other recent Canon decisions, they sure got it right with the 7D. I really expect we will get about what we want. Canon is no doubt doing all sorts of market research and finding that 7D owners are generally content with the camera and just want it updated to take advantage of technological improvements of the past three years. I don't see them doing anything radical that might upset the apple cart. No merger with the 60D...no change in sensor size...no radical redesign.

As a side note, I do get the feeling that people who have actually bought the 5DIII are similarly satisfied. With the 7D II Canon decided to split the market into two segments, those who would pay a premium for a premium body and those who wouldn't (the 60D). Now, I think they've done the same thing with the full frame market with the 5DIII and the 6D.

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Canon General / Re: How many of us are making money out of photography ?
« on: September 20, 2012, 10:31:34 AM »
I used to work as a small newspaper photographer, many many years ago.

Got tired of being poor. Spent most of my career managing a communications staff in the public sector. Writers, photographer, graphic designer, web and social media folks, etc. That allows me to enjoy photography as a hobby. I've considered it as a retirement option. I have 4-5 years to experiment before retirement.

Someone asked for advice. Not sure some would consider me qualified since I don't earn a living in the business now, but a lesson I learned when I was working full time as a news photographer and which has served me well in all endeavors is this: it's not about the light, the bokeh, the focus or any of that. It's about the people. If they don't like you, they won't like your pictures. If they like  you, they'll love your pictures.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 4D reference in Wifi remote app video
« on: September 19, 2012, 08:38:07 PM »
It could of course just be a typo?

What! You let logic get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. How could you!

Let's see, the video is clearly promoting the new remote function of the 6D. The camera shown is clearly the 6D and when you go to the Canon website link, it's all about the 6D (and the 7D, which is pretty interesting actually). So, either a typo or more likely the graphic designer of the iPhone image was told to obscure the model number for some reason. Definitely not a "4" and not significant anyway.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who really is the target demographic for the 6D?
« on: September 19, 2012, 10:43:41 AM »
...Who is this camera made for? - 60D lovers lusting for FF and tired of vari-angle LCD, obviously :D. Similar bodies, similar controls, shared SD cards...

I was thinking about both the Nikon and the Canon this morning and pretty much came to the same conclusion. I really don't see either one being aimed at owners of the Rebel or DXXXX series. The cost of entry is just too high. Take the Rebel for example. For around $1,000 or less, many Rebel owners have gotten a kit with a 18-55 and a 55-250 mm telephoto.

To replace that kit means an investment of at least $3,000. Many Rebel owners were probably really squeezing to get the $1,000. Now convince them they ought to "upgrade" to a $3,000 setup. And, for what? In 99% of the cases the user will see no discernible improvement in the results.

As a 7D owner, converting to full frame has virtually no appeal to me. Would I consider buying a full frame as a second body? Maybe, but I'll wait until the 7DII comes out and see what it is like, since that is what I really would rather have. So, I don't see many 7D owners as the target market.

So, I came to the same conclusion as ecka, the primary target market may be 60D owners. There may also be a segment of 40D and 50D holdovers who weren't willing to pay the premium for the 7D but couldn't justify the original cost of the 5DII.

Now, I think the same factors apply to the Nikon D600 and it's not a criticism of either company. More of an academic exercise: "Guess the Target Market."

If there is any conclusion I would draw from this it is that, first,  DSLR manufacturing efficiencies have improved sufficiently to the point that Canon and Nikon now feel comfortable developing cameras for much more targeted audiences than they could in the past and second, the DSLR market is so lucrative and desirable that all the manufacturers want to lock it up, and they are willing to give consumers as many options as possible in order to avoid leaving any customers on the table.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is selling 5d3 for $2745 on eBay now
« on: September 18, 2012, 10:02:05 PM »
Adorama has sold 818 5D Mark III's on ebay alone, which has netted them well over $2,400,000!.. not too shabby.. 100 5D3's were sold alone in the last 9 or so hours of that sale!! and that was when everyone was likely sleeping.

I hope you are not in business. They didn't "net" $2.4 million. The grossed $2.4 million. What they netted was the sale price less wholesale cost, less shipping, less overhead. If they actually made $50 net on each one (which might be more generous than you think) that's about $41,000. That's not bad for a one-day sale, but it's a far cry from $2.4 million and assumes they actually made $50 in profit on each one.

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