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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« on: October 02, 2012, 11:21:26 AM »
I think that it has just taken time for the better sensors to get into camera models that actually get attention: D800 & D600.

Three years ago, the D7000's APS-C sensor was way 'better' than it's competitor, the 7D (in DxOMark-land).  Which was more popular?

And while the geeks are yapping about miniscule differences in sensors, Canon is scooping up even more market share by discounting a four-year camera to undercut sales of the D600 and lock buyers into their system.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF-S 18-300 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM on the Way? [CR1]
« on: October 02, 2012, 11:15:10 AM »
Not a big surprise. Tamron has owned this market for the last several years and I'm sure Canon wants it back.

The 55-250mm proves that if Canon wants to, they can make a sharp, cheap zoom with a long range. If they can produce an 18-300 EF-S that matches that lens in image quality, it would be worth having for those times when you really cannot carry more than one lens.

I think Canon would have to try really hard to make a new 24-300 mm zoom worse than their current lineup of non-L 300 mm zooms.

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Lenses / Re: Canon 200mm 2.8 l ii: what's the deal
« on: October 01, 2012, 05:22:50 PM »
I once had the FD version of this lens and loved it. I've been tempted many times to buy this lens, but keep holding off in the hopes that Canon will introduce an IS version. This lens with the current 4-stop IS would be worth twice the current price in my opinion. Given the age of this lens, there may be others like me waiting for an updated version.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« on: October 01, 2012, 10:30:05 AM »
If you and the paid photographer are that close, maybe you should sit down or shoot somewhere else? You were invited as a guest. The paid photographer is there to shoot the wedding.

I know this particular event is over and the point is now moot, but I have to echo this sentiment. When a paid photographer is shooting an event, they are on the job. I don't allow anyone to come into my office during the day, stand over my shoulder and type on my computer.

I feel very strongly that we should not be interfering with the work of a paid photographer. It's inconsiderate. At the very least, you should visit with the photographer beforehand and tell them what your purpose and intent is and make some ground rules. For example, staged events like the cutting of the cake, first dance, etc., most wedding photographers expect that family members will also be taking pictures. But, during the actual ceremony when the paid photographer absolutely must capture fleeting moments, is not the time for a family member to be getting in the way.

Just my two cents.

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Lenses / Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« on: September 30, 2012, 11:55:47 AM »
The Tamron 70-300 is definitely the best value for the dollar. Sharper than any of the Canon non-L 70-300 lenses. Decent build. Good IS.

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Canon General / Re: Europe trip, 1-2 months
« on: September 28, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »
I can't resist playing along. These are the places I've visited so far. Hope to do many, many more:

Provence: went last fall. In a fairly small area you get incredible variety. Started in Nice (coast), then to Canyon du Verdon (nature), St. Remy de Provence (smallish town, Van Gogh and Roman sites, people actually live here, although it is a tourist town); Arles and Avignon and Pont du Gard (real history, unlike here in the U.S. Just walking around the amphitheater in Arles and knowing that people used to walk those same hallways to watch gladiators fight to the death is pretty mindblowing) The Camargue (an entire ecosystem unlike anywhere else in the region); Wine country, etc. etc.  So much in so little area. I could spend a year there.

Austria: Been there twice. Innsbruck, Salzburg, Vienna. You feel like you are in a fairy tale in Innsbruck. Vienna a very friendly, walkable major city;

Crete: Wonderful in the small towns, sitting in the open cafes. Greeks love people, food and parties. Socially, nothing seems to start before 9 p.m. I think the whole island survives on about two hours of sleep a night; Minoan Crete was Greece before there was a Greece.

Kiev: One of the most "foreign" cities I've ever been to. Been there three or four times. Would go back in a minute. Imagine if, a couple times a week in the summer, Chicago shut off all traffic on Michigan Avenue and everyone came out to talk, sing, walk and party. That happens in Kiev.  I will always remember going to St. Sophia's and having a friend show me graffiti carved into the wooden columns written in languages that no longer even exist.

My advice: Don't try to do a "grand tour." Pick a region or two you are most interested in and spend some quality time there. Then do that every year or two for the rest of your life. That's my goal.

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And I really think what I'm doing is romanticizing how great my old 55-250mm was. 

Probably not. People tend to look down on the 55-250 because it is cheap. But for whatever reason, the lens is really sharp. Light, plastic build, no USM, but that thing can be sharp.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Dynamic Range & Camera IQ
« on: September 26, 2012, 05:00:23 PM »
Agree 100 percent with DTaylor's comments.

Adding a very biased personal perspective.

In the film days, this was called the Zone System and it was popularized by Ansel Adams. The basic concept remains the same. Film (now sensors) and the final medium (photographic prints, photo-mechanical reproduction and now, monitors) cannot reproduce the full range of tones that exist in nature.

You have two choices when trying to capture scenes with a broad range of tones: You can "clip" the highlights/shadows by letting them go either completely white (for highlights) or completely black (for shadows). Or, you can try to compress the tonal range into something that is reproducible, preserving detail in both.

Right now, the fad in photography is to try to compress as much of the range as possible, creating "High Dynamic Range" scenes, which is a misnomer, because the range is not actually "higher" instead it is compressed and often looks very artificially so, like the example shown early in this thread. Some people think that looks great. Others think it is artificial looking and excessively dramatic.

Ansel Adams was a big proponent of compression and his Zone System was built entirely on teaching people how to compress the tonal range of film and paper. However, Adams' goal was to try to reproduce a tonal range that looked natural and reflected how the human eye (at least in his view) actually saw the scene. Many of today's HDR images make no attempt to reproduce the scene as a human eye might see it, but instead opt for overly dramatic misinterpretations.

The counterpoint in photography is the image that allows areas to go pure white and pure black while retaining the important detail in the middle tones.

As with most things in life, the decision should be personal and should be based on what your goals are. In my view, moderation is probably the best approach. But, that's a subjective decision.

The appeal of a wider dynamic range in sensors is that the sensor can preserve shadow and highlight detail in the file that can be brought out in the final image. Again, as DTaylor has pointed out, this can often be done in post-processing in Photoshop. I frequently use multiple layers of smart objects, adjusting the highlights and shadows in Camera Raw, masking certain areas and combining them in Photoshop. But then, I'm not a big fan of the HDR look and in most cases prefer the challenge of composing and capturing scenes within the limitations of the camera's existing dynamic range.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Big Megapixel Talk [CR1]
« on: September 25, 2012, 05:21:46 PM »
EOS 5HD or EOS 1HD. Depends on the body style.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D at 46.1mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 25, 2012, 11:55:54 AM »
46 MP FF is SWEET.  Will make a lot of studio and product and landscape photogs happy.  For the rest of us... well.... meh... it's of lot of pixels.  46.1 MP is precisely 18 MP APS-C scaled up to FF.  So this would suggest Canon has improved the pixel performance (noise, iso, etc.) sufficiently that they are willing to deploy it in a 46 MP FF pro body?  If so, then giddy up little pony and let's get to shootin'... the current 18MP APS-C are very good (not perfect, but they are good) so if there is any improvement at all then we all be lovin' it.  It could also mean that Canon will keep the APS-C sensors at 18MP and similarly improve performance which is great.

Yes, I think Canon has concentrated their sensor development over the past several years on improving noise rather than continuing to increase pixel density. If it really is 46 mp, then the improvements will almost certainly trickle down to an 18mp 7DII next spring.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D at 46.1mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 25, 2012, 11:09:13 AM »
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I believe Canon had this sensor and the technology to mass produce it for some time (2-3 years) ...

Yes, they've been using it in the 7D for three years now.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:00:48 PM »
Oh I think it would be quite excellent for wildlife because when you crop the picture, you'll have the same ability to crop as with the 7D. It would be the full frame version of the 7D, except perhaps in fps. Birders would love it.

I also see it as being used by quite a number of wedding photographers (that aren't amateurs pretending.)

This sounds good in theory, but it doesn't work in real life. The more you have to crop, the harder it is to nail the focus. So, while it sounds good to say you could simply take a full-frame camera of equal pixel density to a 7D and crop the image after the shoot, the most likely result will be images with missed focus points. If you need a 1.6 magnification, it is best to use a camera that provides a 1.6 magnification.

As for wedding photographers, I can't understand why they would pick this over the 5DIII, which was designed with their needs specifically in mind.

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Lenses / Re: 70-300mm For my 5DM2
« on: September 24, 2012, 05:54:00 PM »
I just realized as I was posting this that Steve Smith said essentially the same thing. Sorry for the redundancy, but that means two recommendations on the "L" from the refurbished store.

If you are in the U.S.: ACT RIGHT NOW. The Canon Refurbished Store is having their 20% off sale and the 70-300 L is just over $1,000. http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_327247_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149

You might even get free shipping with Coupon Code; SHIP712  (see CanonPriceWatch.com). This is a fantastic lens and if you can swing it, buy it.

Now, if you absolutely cannot afford the "L" lens, I would honestly recommend going a cheap route and picking up the new Tamron 70-300 stabilized lens. It is less expensive than the Canon IS lens, but from all accounts it is sharper. I had that lens before I gave in to the desire for the "L."  Don't get me wrong, the "L" lens is much better (sharper, weathersealed, built like a tank, etc.) but I really had few complaints about the Tamron. It was as sharp or sharper than the 55-250 mm lens, which is actually quite sharp (although not USM and lacks build quality). I don't have any experience with the 70-300 non "L" IS lens, but from reviews, etc. it doesn't seem to be a stellar performer and is more expensive than the Tamron.

Only problem I ever had with the Tamron was an occasional hangup when it would hunt for a focus point. Although I honestly don't know if that was a problem with the lens or with the 7D center focus point not being able to focus on a subject due to contrast issues.

Anyway, that's my two-cents.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« on: September 23, 2012, 12:31:46 PM »
I love it when a plan comes together.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8175.msg149586#msg149586

Okay, I admit I was wrong about some of the features of the 6D. No touch screen, no flip screen and it does have micro-focus adjustment. You can take some deductions from my score for those, but if the 46 mp camera emerges, I want extra points for calling that one. :)

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While most lenses are out of stock, the superb 70-300 L is in stock as of 10 this morning (central time). Just over $1,000. Fantastic deal. Also the 430 EXII is under $200.

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